Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic?

[fdr2012]

Oh, my bad a half game back via percentage points If that makes you feel any better about it. Last time I checked the Nets were tied after Nov 26th at 9-4 and leading the division on Nov 28th.

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/11/28/3 ... aking-nets

So, how exactly did they never lead since day 1 or game 1?

It will get less interesting? Really? With games against Miami, OKC, Atlanta, Chicago, Indiana? A few wins against the Raptors and Magic have suddenly given you that much confidence?

Listen, I'm pretty much have surrendered that division title idea for now but to act like the rest of your schedule is a piece of cake is just ridiculous.

Is this a joke? Your talking as if the Knicks are some .300 team that has won 5 straight games and is getting cocky. The Knicks have been a .600+ team throughout the season.

They've beaten Miami twice (and lost once in a close game) and they can beat any and every team in this league. A raptors fan making fun of the 2nd seed Knicks? Is this some sort of joke? What is the obsession that Raptors fans have with the Knicks? Is this some sort of NY -Toronto inferiority complex? Get over it.

[Scalabrine]

You should be quite familiar with the Celtics stepping up in the playoffs. Rondo may be out but guys like Jeff Green and Avery Bradley can still fill in the major holes for their team. Never count out KG or Paul "Athletic Marvel" Pierce.

NYKs got some weapons I can clearly see that but you can't always count on them firing come playoffs time as shown in the Knicks past decade.

Kidd, Sheed, Amare, Melo, Martin, Thomas, Chandler, have all been in some huge games, and played at a very high level, even Prigioni has played in some huge games overseas and in the olympics.

I do expect KG and Pierce to be as great as they always are once the playoffs come but im not sure that is enough for me to not want to play them over the Bulls or the Hawks. They dont have Rondo, they dont have Allen, they dont have size (which is normally what beats the Knicks). I think, as a fan, I would rather the Knicks play the Hawks over the Celtics, but I would rather go in hot then try to play for matchups, and I would much rather get that 2,3 seed instead of the 4th.

[Luv those Knicks]

I dont think the Knicks are a contender, they could drop to the 6th or 7th seed if they are not careful

I love posts like this one, in hindsight.

[reload141]

What is this thread about? The answer has and will always be no.

The thread title clearly says "Can anybody CATCH the Knicks in the Atlantic"....The answer has been yes considering the Nets are 2 games behind and were tied with the Knicks not too long ago. This thread was made when the Knicks had a 6 game lead and will be the gift that keeps on giving

I'm assuming your're calling this the "gift that keeps on giving" because you're a Knicks hater. I just don't understand what is it giving to you? Knicks have been on top of the Atlantic and have never given the lead up. So as a Knicks hater, how was seeing the Knicks destroy Boston on National TV? Was it as good for you as it was good for me?

It's cute seeing you get excited about a regular season win like this, actually it's down right adorable. Little Knicks fan

[Spicy P]

Have fun against Boston in the playoffs. Haha

Have fun having B.C as your GM and being in the lottery for the rest of eternity.

Unless B.C gives those lottery picks away for studs like Lowry.

As terrible as BC is, I'd take him over Glen **** Grunwald who loved handing out huge contracts to average players when he was in Toronto. Knicks love taking the Raptors garbage like Isiah Thomas, Lenny Wilkens, Glen Grunwald, Jim Todd, etc, so BC will probably be in the Knicks front office once he gets fired this summer anyways.

[Hemispheres]

I understand that because of last years playoff run, the Celtics will be given the benefit of the doubt until they fail in the playoffs. And that is very fair, but I really think they're done. Whether they match up against the Nets, Pacers, Knicks, or Heat (obv) I think they will be a guaranteed first round exit.

When you look at the remaining schedules, I still feel a 2.5 game lead is going to be difficult to maintain for the Knicks over the Nets. Especially because if the Knicks are smart they should really start limiting Melo's and Tyson's minutes until the playoffs.

I love the K-Mart signing, but he'll need to keep it up along with the other role players on the team to maintain the division lead over the remaining 13 games.

[Striders]

As terrible as BC is, I'd take him over Glen **** Grunwald who loved handing out huge contracts to average players when he was in Toronto. Knicks love taking the Raptors garbage like Isiah Thomas, Lenny Wilkens, Glen Grunwald, Jim Todd, etc, so BC will probably be in the Knicks front office once he gets fired this summer anyways.

Why do Raptors fans care so much about the Knicks? I'm curious about this, no snark.

It seems like every time our teams match up, you treat it like a rivalry game, you guys seem to have the most hatred for the Knicks (Even possibly over Miami and Boston), you're always talking about loving to watch the Knicks fail (Even though you don't benefit, since you're not going to the playoffs this year)....I don't get it. Our teams barely have history with each other.

[fdr2012]

Why do Raptors fans care so much about the Knicks? I'm curious about this, no snark.

It seems like every time our teams match up, you treat it like a rivalry game, you guys seem to have the most hatred for the Knicks (Even possibly over Miami and Boston), you're always talking about loving to watch the Knicks fail (Even though you don't benefit, since you're not going to the playoffs this year)....I don't get it. Our teams barely have history with each other.[/quote]

It's a NY - Toronto inferiority complex. I've seen it before with Canadians. For some absurd reason, they think Toronto is a rival to New-York for East Coast supremacy. I can't really explain it.

[fdr2012]

It's cute seeing you get excited about a regular season win like this, actually it's down right adorable. Little Knicks fan

I guess you don't Mind looking stupid like the rest of the haters in this thread. Ok.

[TheToothFairy]

Have fun against Boston in the playoffs. Haha

Have fun having B.C as your GM and being in the lottery for the rest of eternity.

Unless B.C gives those lottery picks away for studs like Lowry.

As terrible as BC is, I'd take him over Glen **** Grunwald who loved handing out huge contracts to average players when he was in Toronto. Knicks love taking the Raptors garbage like Isiah Thomas, Lenny Wilkens, Glen Grunwald, Jim Todd, etc, so BC will probably be in the Knicks front office once he gets fired this summer anyways.

Like the 20 mil he gave to Fields?

The 55 Mil he gave to Turkoglu?

Has any Raptors team had as many wins as the Knicks this season?

[Spicy P]

As terrible as BC is, I'd take him over Glen **** Grunwald who loved handing out huge contracts to average players when he was in Toronto. Knicks love taking the Raptors garbage like Isiah Thomas, Lenny Wilkens, Glen Grunwald, Jim Todd, etc, so BC will probably be in the Knicks front office once he gets fired this summer anyways.

Why do Raptors fans care so much about the Knicks? I'm curious about this, no snark.

Quite a bit of history from the Raptors perspective. First NBA game ever played was between New York and Toronto. Our first 2 playoff appearances were against the Knicks back in 2000 and 2001. We've been trade partners for a lot of big trades involving Camby, Oakley, Mark Jackson, Childs, Antonio Davis, Jalen Rose, Muggsy Bogues, etc. And like I mentioned before, we've shared GMs and coaches like Grunwald, Isiah, Wilkens, etc. It's only natural that we pay so much attention to the Knicks. It's the same reason why Knicks fans care so much about the Nuggets. Knicks were probably my 2nd most watched team up until these last couple of seasons.

[Striders]

It's the same reason why Knicks fans care so much about the Nuggets.

That's mostly due to an internal debate about whether or not the Melo trade was worth it. If the Nuggets got rid of Gallo and Chandler, that would be the end of it.

I was just wondering, since our squads haven't had a significant game against each other since....2001? And yet your camp tries its hardest to act like we have some sort of rivalry.

[Spicy P]

It's the same reason why Knicks fans care so much about the Nuggets.

That's mostly due to an internal debate about whether or not the Melo trade was worth it. If the Nuggets got rid of Gallo and Chandler, that would be the end of it.

I was just wondering, since our squads haven't had a significant game against each other since....2001? And yet your camp tries its hardest to act like we have some sort of rivalry.

There's no rivalry between the teams on the court. Just on this message board because we have the largest and most passionate fanbases on here and because of the whole New York vs. Toronto thing.

[Sark]

It's the same reason why Knicks fans care so much about the Nuggets.

That's mostly due to an internal debate about whether or not the Melo trade was worth it. If the Nuggets got rid of Gallo and Chandler, that would be the end of it.

I was just wondering, since our squads haven't had a significant game against each other since....2001? And yet your camp tries its hardest to act like we have some sort of rivalry.

There's no rivalry between the teams on the court. Just on this message board because we have the largest and most passionate fanbases on here and because of the whole New York vs. Toronto thing.

What New York vs Toronto thing?

[NYK_89]

What New York vs Toronto thing?

Yeah said this way earlier in the thread, is this a rivalry to you or something, Toronto fans are all super anti Knicks its actually quite funny. I in general pull for them its pretty hilarious that apparently the Toronto fan base has built this into some big deal for them.

[CanadianKnicksFan]

Have fun against Boston in the playoffs. Haha

Have fun having B.C as your GM and being in the lottery for the rest of eternity.

Unless B.C gives those lottery picks away for studs like Lowry.

As terrible as BC is, I'd take him over Glen **** Grunwald who loved handing out huge contracts to average players when he was in Toronto. Knicks love taking the Raptors garbage like Isiah Thomas, Lenny Wilkens, Glen Grunwald, Jim Todd, etc, so BC will probably be in the Knicks front office once he gets fired this summer anyways.

Haha coming from a Raptors fan..

Oh yeah, so BC has giving fair contracts to guys like Hedo, Jason Kapono and Landry Fields???

[guardplay320]

Nothing against you Raptors fans, but here is a list of teams that pretty much all Knicks fans would consider bigger rivals than Toronto (in the Eastern conference only):

1) Celtics
2) Bulls
3) Heat
4) Nets
5) Pacers
6) Sixers

[Tron Carter]

Nothing against you Raptors fans, but here is a list of teams that pretty much all Knicks fans would consider bigger rivals than Toronto (in the Eastern conference only):

1) Celtics
2) Bulls
3) Heat
4) Nets
5) Pacers
6) Sixers

29)Bobcats
30)Raptors

[StephNYKurry]

The thread title clearly says "Can anybody CATCH the Knicks in the Atlantic"....The answer has been yes considering the Nets are 2 games behind and were tied with the Knicks not too long ago. This thread was made when the Knicks had a 6 game lead and will be the gift that keeps on giving

Dude the Nets have never been "tied" with the Knicks. Until you're even in the loss column, you ain't even. Nets ain't been even with the Knicks in the loss column since Game 1. Sorry brah. As long as the Knicks have games in hand, the Nets ain't even.

Yes, the Knicks have made this interesting with their West Coast swoon, but it'll get less interesting over the next week or so.

Oh, my bad a half game back via percentage points If that makes you feel any better about it. Last time I checked the Nets were tied after Nov 26th at 9-4 and leading the division on Nov 28th.

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/11/28/3 ... aking-nets

So, how exactly did they never lead since day 1 or game 1?

It will get less interesting? Really? With games against Miami, OKC, Atlanta, Chicago, Indiana? A few wins against the Raptors and Magic have suddenly given you that much confidence?

Listen, I'm pretty much have surrendered that division title idea for now but to act like the rest of your schedule is a piece of cake is just ridiculous.

Damn...November 28th?

That was like 3 weeks ago right?

How long did it take yo ass to find that?

Atlanta is at home. Memphis is without Gasol tonight and Chandler may be back.

If the Knicks finish 9-5, the Nets have to finish 12-2, with games remaining in Portland, Denver, a desperate Utah, and in Indiana. Yeah bruh, this is gon be a whole lot less interesting than y'all folks thought it was going to be.

[J0rdan4life42o]

Apparently its not ok to refer to early points in the season, because whenever a Knick fan does, they usually get blasted for doing so because most fans would prefer to remind Knicks fans that they've regressed to the mean and were a fluke to start the year...so you can take that November date when the Nets were supposedly tied with he Knicks and shove it. NYs led the Atlantic division all season long, and is playing its best basketball since the first quarter of the season. And it's too bad no one could point to fluke 3 point shooting this time around.