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Re: tryin' to get paid - the gerald henderson thread 

Post#401 » by BigSlam » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:48 pm

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KembaWalker wrote:in what world is Hendo outplaying Kevin Martin?


Last 10 Hendo: 22.6 ppg 50%fpg 4.5 rpg 3.3 apg - for the year efficiency: 17.81

Last 10 Martin: 13.5 ppg 47%fpg 2.4 rpg 1.7 apg - for the year efficiency: 17.63

You're comparing the stats of the starting SG on the worst team in the NBA for team years running and the 6th man on one of the best teams in the NBA two years running?
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Post#402 » by catch20two » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:52 pm

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KembaWalker wrote:in what world is Hendo outplaying Kevin Martin?


Last 10 Hendo: 22.6 ppg 50%fpg 4.5 rpg 3.3 apg - for the year efficiency: 17.81

Last 10 Martin: 13.5 ppg 47%fpg 2.4 rpg 1.7 apg - for the year efficiency: 17.63

It has been argued that Kevin Martin is overpaid and his career numbers are on par to Hendo's last 10 games if you omitted his rookie year. Case closed.
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Post#403 » by ccbballin » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:56 pm

Does anyone agree Hendo has been playing lights out in the past month? Im guessing not.
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Post#404 » by catch20two » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:04 pm

ccbballin wrote:Does anyone agree Hendo has been playing lights out in the past month? Im guessing not.

I can agree that Hendo has been playing like the player that we expected out of him when we named him captain and MJ heaped praise on him. Because a player finally lives up to expectations for a month's worth of play doesn't mean that we should cloud our judgement and act like the majority of the season he wasn't a mild disappointment.
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Re: tryin' to get paid - the gerald henderson thread 

Post#405 » by Snidely FC » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:31 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:I think it's the era of 6-7 and 6-8 guards, small forwards who can knock down the corner three, attack the basket, guard their own man and be good team defenders. It's not a knock on Hendo but I don't think that he's guy you need in today's game.


I think this is a really important point. What style of offense will CHA play going forward? The smart teams are moving to make their offense more efficient. That means more 3&D shooting guards. The draft also will make a difference. What if we get the second pick and #1 takes Noel? We take McLemore. Do we then pay Hendo 8-10 million? I watched Marquette's last 3 games and thought, we could make McLemore our SG1 and Vander Blue our SG2 for 400K compare to making Hendo our SG2 for 7mln/. Bear in mind, I love Hendo. But what is his value to this franchise and what is his replacement value?
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Post#406 » by catch20two » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:50 pm

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LamarMatic7 wrote:I think it's the era of 6-7 and 6-8 guards, small forwards who can knock down the corner three, attack the basket, guard their own man and be good team defenders. It's not a knock on Hendo but I don't think that he's guy you need in today's game.


I think this is a really important point. What style of offense will CHA play going forward? The smart teams are moving to make their offense more efficient. That means more 3&D shooting guards. The draft also will make a difference. What if we get the second pick and #1 takes Noel? We take McLemore. Do we then pay Hendo 8-10 million? I watched Marquette's last 3 games and thought, we could make McLemore our SG1 and Vander Blue our SG2 for 400K compare to making Hendo our SG2 for 7mln/. Bear in mind, I love Hendo. But what is his value to this franchise and what is his replacement value?


I think it sets a bad precedent to let Hendo walk in free agency unless you have a clear cut, can't miss prospect to replace him with in the draft.
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Post#407 » by LamarMatic7 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:35 pm

ccbballin wrote:But finally his shot is falling. He like Kemba can shoot you out of games and now that his shot is going in, the team is much more competitive. The game is opening up more. His team defense sucks at times and he plays a little too confident on that end of the floor.


I think his shot is falling as good as it has always fallen. In my opinion, his stats have risen during March just because of the increased number of field goal attempts at the rim, which kind of was proven by hoopdata (I posted the numbers a few days ago).

I can only give him credit for improving his three pointer as at this point he's competent enough to knock down the open looks. But he still has ways to go to become a legit threat, so our spacing would benefit as well.

Moreover, to return to a point you made previously - I don't feel like he still could improve. Most shooting guards hit their peak somewhat early, between the age of 24 and 26. I think other than becoming a consistent three pointer, Hendo's pretty much hit his peak which should last until about 30.
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Re: tryin' to get paid - the gerald henderson thread 

Post#408 » by MPM » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:54 pm

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ccbballin wrote:But finally his shot is falling. He like Kemba can shoot you out of games and now that his shot is going in, the team is much more competitive. The game is opening up more. His team defense sucks at times and he plays a little too confident on that end of the floor.


I think his shot is falling as good as it has always fallen. In my opinion, his stats have risen during March just because of the increased number of field goal attempts at the rim, which kind of was proven by hoopdata (I posted the numbers a few days ago).

I can only give him credit for improving his three pointer as at this point he's competent enough to knock down the open looks. But he still has ways to go to become a legit threat, so our spacing would benefit as well.

Moreover, to return to a point you made previously - I don't feel like he still could improve. Most shooting guards hit their peak somewhat early, between the age of 24 and 26. I think other than becoming a consistent three pointer, Hendo's pretty much hit his peak which should last until about 30.


I would love to see Hendo back on the Bobs with a reasonable contract and an understanding that he would play the super 6th man role in a year or two. Good guy, does a lot of things well, does nothing great.
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Re: tryin' to get paid - the gerald henderson thread 

Post#409 » by LamarMatic7 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:59 pm

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LamarMatic7 wrote:
ccbballin wrote:But finally his shot is falling. He like Kemba can shoot you out of games and now that his shot is going in, the team is much more competitive. The game is opening up more. His team defense sucks at times and he plays a little too confident on that end of the floor.


I think his shot is falling as good as it has always fallen. In my opinion, his stats have risen during March just because of the increased number of field goal attempts at the rim, which kind of was proven by hoopdata (I posted the numbers a few days ago).

I can only give him credit for improving his three pointer as at this point he's competent enough to knock down the open looks. But he still has ways to go to become a legit threat, so our spacing would benefit as well.

Moreover, to return to a point you made previously - I don't feel like he still could improve. Most shooting guards hit their peak somewhat early, between the age of 24 and 26. I think other than becoming a consistent three pointer, Hendo's pretty much hit his peak which should last until about 30.


I would love to see Hendo back on the Bobs with a reasonable contract and an understanding that he would play the super 6th man role in a year or two. Good guy, does a lot of things well, does nothing great.


I wouldn't mind at all. The thing is that he would be vastly overpaid for the 6th man role. Who knows, he might even lose his fire, if he was brought of the bench.
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Post#410 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:07 pm

If we can re-sign him for a reasonable price, I wouldn't be opposed to having him continue to start even if we got McLemore. Hendo could play the Sefolosha role, playing ahead of the more talented spark plug off the bench in McLemore.
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Post#411 » by Kembastockton » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:10 pm

BlackOutBobcat wrote:If we can re-sign him for a reasonable price, I wouldn't be opposed to having him continue to start even if we got McLemore. Hendo could play the Sefolosha role, playing ahead of the more talented spark plug off the bench in McLemore.


We are building off the Oklahoma model after all.
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Post#412 » by LamarMatic7 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:49 pm

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BlackOutBobcat wrote:If we can re-sign him for a reasonable price, I wouldn't be opposed to having him continue to start even if we got McLemore. Hendo could play the Sefolosha role, playing ahead of the more talented spark plug off the bench in McLemore.


We are building off the Oklahoma model after all.

at least Jannero Pargo is better than Derek Fisher.
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Post#413 » by catch20two » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:02 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
MountBiyombo wrote:We are building off the Oklahoma model after all.

at least Jannero Pargo is better than Derek Fisher.

I would say that Hendo is better than Sefolosha as well.
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Post#414 » by fatlever » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:15 pm

i really wish we would scrap the OKC model of build and go towards the denver nuggets model. until we get a durant its unrealistic to even think about an OKC type build. however, we can do a nuggets model. we have the young athletic guys to run that style. dunlap coached under karl and wants to run that kind of offense/defense. we just need to keep adding depth and let the youngsters get better.

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Post#415 » by LamarMatic7 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:30 pm

catch20two wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:
MountBiyombo wrote:We are building off the Oklahoma model after all.

at least Jannero Pargo is better than Derek Fisher.

I would say that Hendo is better than Sefolosha as well.

you wouldn't compare them both when we do so in this silly manner though.
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Post#416 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:19 pm

Ehhh, wasn't trying to start up another OKC model conversation, just the first example to come to mind. If you prefer, consider Green/Ginobili or Shumpert/Smith.
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Post#417 » by freakon0mics » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:04 pm

fatlever wrote:i really wish we would scrap the OKC model of build and go towards the denver nuggets model. until we get a durant its unrealistic to even think about an OKC type build. however, we can do a nuggets model. we have the young athletic guys to run that style. dunlap coached under karl and wants to run that kind of offense/defense. we just need to keep adding depth and let the youngsters get better.


Totally agree. You can even say we can follow the Pacers model as well. Build up a defensive style/culture. The key is to keep adding talent and hopefully to try and hit a home run with one of our draft picks. Hiring a head coach who can teach and coach is also vital. Dunlap only fits half that bill though.
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Post#418 » by Diop » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:24 am

i think we should follow the Bulls model. Its easy you just have to draft the GOAT.

Whatever style you call it, I think Cho is just trying to gain as many assets as possible. I'm sure most teams want to do the same, we just had to start out by tanking as we can't get the players the way NY and LA can.
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Post#419 » by Elden Payton » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:48 am

We're building the Charlotte model?
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Post#420 » by HornetJail » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:52 am

Sik Infant wrote:We're building the Charlotte model?
That's a sh*t model. Suck for two years, be slightly less than mediocre for three years, make the 7th seed one year, get blown out, pay luxury tax, and then blow the f*ck up?
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