Victor Oladipo

Cammo101 · Post #121 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:21 am

Syracuse, having 2 point guards, simply stayed away from Oladipo and attacked Yogi and Jordy. Oladipo was a non-factor offensively though.

[RCG] · Post #122 » by **[RCG]** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:41 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Oladipo had somewhat of a below average game defensively vs. Syracuse, I thought. Got beat a few times off of the dribble by Carter-Williams. Do others who watched the game feel the same way?

I think MCW only scored twice on Oladipo. One being a obvious travel and the other being a difficult bank shot. MCW did most of his damage in the first half when Oladipo wasn't guarding him.

He had his typical, highly efficient game. Would have liked to see him put the ball on the floor more, but overall I think any NBA team would be happy to take him top 5 if he declares.

I completely agree with Mr.Raptorsingh. Oladipo was overly aggressive and got beat off the dribble multiple times for easy buckets at the rim. For as many steals that he had, he allowed easy buckets I'd say. He also got called for a couple fouls that way as well. He was efficient looking at the box score but he didn't really seem to be involved in the offense during the game. He hit that nice three and drew a couple fouls but didn't stand out on the offensive end.

Overall it seemed like Indiana's offense was very disjointed and wasn't prepared at all for Syracuse's zone. I don't understand why Indiana stuck with man-to-man either. They were burned the entire game by Syracuse driving to the hoop. Indiana got out-rebounded as well. Bottom-line is I don't think Tom Crean had the Hoosiers ready to play tonight.

I thought Zeller's draft stock took a real hit tonight. I wouldn't draft him in the top-10 (although I thought some of those "blocks" should have been fouls). And Oladipo didn't look like a top-5 pick. Michael Carter-Williams really helped himself tonight though.

Marvin Martian · Post #123 » by **Marvin Martian** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:52 am

[RCG] wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Oladipo had somewhat of a below average game defensively vs. Syracuse, I thought. Got beat a few times off of the dribble by Carter-Williams. Do others who watched the game feel the same way?

I think MCW only scored twice on Oladipo. One being a obvious travel and the other being a difficult bank shot. MCW did most of his damage in the first half when Oladipo wasn't guarding him.

He had his typical, highly efficient game. Would have liked to see him put the ball on the floor more, but overall I think any NBA team would be happy to take him top 5 if he declares.

I completely agree with Mr.Raptorsingh. Oladipo was overly aggressive and got beat off the dribble multiple times for easy buckets at the rim. For as many steals that he had, he allowed easy buckets I'd say. He also got called for a couple fouls that way as well. He was efficient looking at the box score but he didn't really seem to be involved in the offense during the game. He hit that nice three and drew a couple fouls but didn't stand out on the offensive end.

Overall it seemed like Indiana's offense was very disjointed and wasn't prepared at all for Syracuse's zone. I don't understand why Indiana stuck with man-to-man either. They were burned the entire game by Syracuse driving to the hoop. Indiana got out-rebounded as well. Bottom-line is I don't think Tom Crean had the Hoosiers ready to play tonight.

I thought Zeller's draft stock took a real hit tonight. I wouldn't draft him in the top-10 (although I thought some of those "blocks" should have been fouls). And Oladipo didn't look like a top-5 pick. Michael Carter-Williams really helped himself tonight though.

i agree that there were some moments where he got overaggressive but at this point I can't find any reason to take him out of top 5. If anything Zeller and Mclemore have dropped out of the top 5. Oladipo had a typical game while other 2 killed their draft stock

B-easy · Post #124 » by **B-easy** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:00 am

Can he dribble, how are his handles ? I've only seen some highlights and he looks like a decent slasher.

I haven't seen much of him though.

[RCG] · Post #125 » by **[RCG]** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:45 pm

McLemore is a top-5 lock. Oladipo is not. He didn't dribble much. Most of the offense consisted of him in the corner with Indiana throwing the ball away.

ParrottK · Post #126 » by **ParrottK** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:20 pm

B-easy wrote:Can he dribble, how are his handles ? I've only seen some highlights and he looks like a decent slasher.

I haven't seen much of him though.

I don't consider him a good ball handler or passer by any means. He's a decent-to-good slasher, but he's not a shot creator. His percentages this year suggest he could possibly be a good spot-up shooter. At this stage, however, he's not going to be a player that teams run plays for. He'll score some baskets on cuts, open spot-ups, and in transition. Offensively, I think he'd be comparable to Kahwi Leonard--don't ask him to do much and you won't be disappointed.

ComboGuardCity · Post #127 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:34 pm

Oladipo = shorter Corey Brewer.

Shock Defeat · Post #128 » by **Shock Defeat** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Best case: Tony Allen

Marvin Martian · Post #129 » by **Marvin Martian** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:11 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:Oladipo = shorter Corey Brewer.

Oladipo is a better shooter and more athletic.

BBall Loyalty wrote:Best case: Tony Allen

Has Tony Allen ever shot the 3 ball as well as Oladipo?

Scoonie · Post #130 » by **Scoonie** » Mon Apr 1, 2013 2:01 pm

He is way too mechanical on offense and not a good ballhandler for a guard. I see him as a career role player at the NBA level. I wouldn't draft him in the lottery.

devinkurant_ · Post #131 » by **devinkurant_** » Mon Apr 1, 2013 2:09 pm

Cammo101 wrote:He has played his way into the top 10 and I currently have him going #8 to Minnesota. He is not as good as Wade was in college, and Wade coming out of college was not supposed to be the elite player he became. That said, Oladipo is a solid, well rounded player, and in this down draft, the sky is the limit.

EricAnderson · Post #132 » by **EricAnderson** » Tue Apr 2, 2013 3:48 pm

Scoonie wrote:He is way too mechanical on offense and not a good ballhandler for a guard. I see him as a career role player at the NBA level. I wouldn't draft him in the lottery.

Mechanical? you know whos mechanical? Marcus Smart and hes projected to go 1 or 2

Oladipos shot is better then his and has improved alot..hes also a better defender

The only wekaness in Oladipos game is ballhandling and that can be worked on

TruthTelling · Post #133 » by **TruthTelling** » Tue Apr 2, 2013 5:28 pm

Sorry but Marcus Smart is definitely not more mechanical than Oladipo. Marcus Smart just looks slow.

Oladipo is mechanical on offense in a Shawn Marion kind of way if you ask me.

Dr Positivity · Post #134 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:03 pm

I feel like Detroit and Oladipo is this year's "just meant to be" pairing. Other than DET needing a SG/SF, with Oladipo and Drummond Detroit heads towards another defense first Pistons era

Eoghan · Post #135 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 10:22 pm

Oladipo DOES NOT have bad handles. He attended Chris Paul's invitation only elite guard camp the same as Burke and others. He has a killer spin move in traffic.

Dr Positivity · Post #136 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 11:07 pm

BrotherDave wrote:Oladipo DOES NOT have bad handles. He attended Chris Paul's invitation only elite guard camp the same as Burke and others. He has a killer spin move in traffic.

He's got a great crossover too

With Oladipo's ballhandling I feel the same way as I do Lin's, sure it may not look the best aesthetically, but if Lin's handle is good enough to attack the basket off the dribble at an elite level or near it, how much can he be doing wrong? Likewise with Oladipo whatever he's doing it working, because he killed teams on the ball and as a slasher this year. McLemore's lack of an on-ball game in college is the greater concern IMO. Oladipo's concern is his perimeter scoring game looks like it can reasonably end anywhere between great, average and terrible

Ell Curry · Post #137 » by **Ell Curry** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 11:09 pm

People seem to think Oladipo doesn't have the potential to be a big scorer because he only had 13.6 points a game. This is illogical since:

1. Oladipo had 13.6 points in only 28.4 minutes. Give him the extra 7 or so you would expect a lottery pick to play and he would have presumably scored another 3 or so points, putting him around 16-17 a game, which is pretty solid for college.

2. Indiana had one of the two great offenses in college basketball this year (Michigan was the other). So, it's not like Oladipo not going 1 on 1 more hurt them. Oladipo had a ludicrously high TS of .671, so basically, he was insanely efficient. Would people be higher on him if he'd taken 5 more 2's a game and hit 2 of them?

3. He's crazy athletic, can shoot and seems to be a hard worker who has shown great capacity for improvement. The potential is there.

It might be most likely that Oladipo becomes a great 3rd or 4th scoring option at the 2 guard spot, but I definitely think his ceiling is much higher.

Juggynaut · Post #138 » by **Juggynaut** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:32 am

Nothing to do with basketball but Victor Oladipo can sing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... sVhAkbzss#

Impresses the hell out of me.

B-easy · Post #139 » by **B-easy** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:16 am

So i got done watching some lengthy highlights.

How is this guy not in contention for first overall pick?

His handles are better than i thought, shot is decent, shoots 60% from the floor while taking about 2' threes a game. Rebounds at a great rate. There aren't many flaws i see with him.

If he measures out well he could go #1.

Dr Positivity · Post #140 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:28 am

B-easy wrote:So i got done watching some lengthy highlights.

How is this guy not in contention for first overall pick?

His handles are better than i thought, shot is decent, shoots 60% from the floor while taking about 2' threes a game. Rebounds at a great rate. There aren't many flaws i see with him.

If he measures out well he could go #1.

The biggest reason he's not in contention with #1 is, is the 1st overall pick is owned by freshman and sophmores nowadays. Which may or may not be fair, but that doesn't appear to changing anytime soon. If VO had the season he just did as a freshman he'd be a lock to go 1st, sophmore probably would have a fair chance

The age thing really depends on what uses to evaluate prospects. If one is heavily into production and statistics to judge players, age is critical and counts out VO. However if one feels they have a firm grasp of talent in a way that's not necessarily tied to production, I don't think Oladipo's age hurts his potential too much. NBA teams seem production 1st more often than not and then using age, competition and body type to guess whether to trust that production