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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#121 » by HornetJail » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:05 am

fdr2012 wrote:Objectively, he utter garbage. He'll be out of the league in two years IMO. Biyombo is the last reason for the Bobcats not to get Noel.
Remember what Larry Sanders was last season? Biz will make that jump eventually. Sanders was worse last year than Biz ever was. Last year Sanders was 23. Biz won't be 23 for another three years.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#122 » by fdr2012 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:20 am

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fdr2012 wrote:Objectively, he utter garbage. He'll be out of the league in two years IMO. Biyombo is the last reason for the Bobcats not to get Noel.
Remember what Larry Sanders was last season? Biz will make that jump eventually. Sanders was worse last year than Biz ever was. Last year Sanders was 23. Biz won't be 23 for another three years.


Sanders is 6"11. I just can't see anything that Biyombo can realistically develop that would keep him in the league. He's undersized, he doesn't rebound well enough to make a living on that, he's not very active, and he's not a great defender. Not drafting Noel because of that guy would be a tragedy.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#123 » by thug-lyfe » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:28 am

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I think they should dump Biyombo. He's utter garbage. Get Noel and then find another big next season.


Yeah they should trade the 20 year old Biyombo for someone like Robert Sacre because he didn't turned out to be the next Hakeem Olajuwon.

What a bust.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#124 » by Fred Williamson » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:34 am

fdr2012 wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
fdr2012 wrote:I think they should dump Biyombo. He's utter garbage. Get Noel and then find another big next season.
Yeah you're right. Biyombo is already 20 and hasn't gotten us an all-star appearance yet. The dude's worthless. Can't wait to trade him for a late 2nd round pick.


Objectively, he utter garbage. He'll be out of the league in two years IMO. Biyombo is the last reason for the Bobcats not to get Noel.


you really don't understand how this NBA basketball thing works, do you? You come here and call a 20year old kid, who has only been playing 5 years of basketball in his life so far, "utter garbage" and "worthless", with absolutely no reasonable arguments why you think this way. Just like that moron Walt Frazier last night who called Biz and MKG, a 19yo and a 20yo, players "who have not panned out". Seriously? Do you guys even follow the NBA?

It seems like people don't even care about a players development these days. Everyone expects the rookies to come out and make the All-Star team in their first year, and if they don't, they're trash
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#125 » by Mundo » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:01 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
fdr2012 wrote:Objectively, he utter garbage. He'll be out of the league in two years IMO. Biyombo is the last reason for the Bobcats not to get Noel.
Remember what Larry Sanders was last season? Biz will make that jump eventually. Sanders was worse last year than Biz ever was. Last year Sanders was 23. Biz won't be 23 for another three years.


In all fairness, Larry Sanders would emote his passion on the floor last season. You could tell that he was going to be good last season when the bucks were trying to make a playoff push. I just don't see that in Biz.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#126 » by jax98 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:25 am

Fred Williamson wrote:you really don't understand how this NBA basketball thing works, do you? You come here and call a 20year old kid, who has only been playing 5 years of basketball in his life so far, "utter garbage" and "worthless", with absolutely no reasonable arguments why you think this way. Just like that moron Walt Frazier last night who called Biz and MKG, a 19yo and a 20yo, players "who have not panned out". Seriously? Do you guys even follow the NBA?

It seems like people don't even care about a players development these days. Everyone expects the rookies to come out and make the All-Star team in their first year, and if they don't, they're trash


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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#127 » by fdr2012 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:59 pm

Fred Williamson wrote:you really don't understand how this NBA basketball thing works, do you? You come here and call a 20year old kid, who has only been playing 5 years of basketball in his life so far, "utter garbage" and "worthless", with absolutely no reasonable arguments why you think this way. Just like that moron Walt Frazier last night who called Biz and MKG, a 19yo and a 20yo, players "who have not panned out". Seriously? Do you guys even follow the NBA?

It seems like people don't even care about a players development these days. Everyone expects the rookies to come out and make the All-Star team in their first year, and if they don't, they're trash


TBH, I don't care, but Biyombo doesn't exhibit any quality that would warrant a job in the NBA. You need to be able to do something, even at 2 YO. MKG can already play high level defense and you can see how he can develop offensively as we'll. With Biyombo, I can see absolutely nothing. I really have no clue why he's in the NBA, 20 YO or not.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#128 » by NYs Finest » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:27 pm

WDF? Hes 20 years old, they should dump him???

For what exactly?

He may not be a great player in the future, but he can be the first big off the bench that can provide a shot blocking presence, in my opinion. I see improvement from his first year to now, give him time.

SMH, you dont just dump him after his 2nd year
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#129 » by HornetJail » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:48 pm

fdr2012 wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
fdr2012 wrote:Objectively, he utter garbage. He'll be out of the league in two years IMO. Biyombo is the last reason for the Bobcats not to get Noel.
Remember what Larry Sanders was last season? Biz will make that jump eventually. Sanders was worse last year than Biz ever was. Last year Sanders was 23. Biz won't be 23 for another three years.


Sanders is 6"11. I just can't see anything that Biyombo can realistically develop that would keep him in the league. He's undersized, he doesn't rebound well enough to make a living on that, he's not very active, and he's not a great defender. Not drafting Noel because of that guy would be a tragedy.

Biz isn't undersized. What he lacks in height he makes up with ridiculous length. When he was measured at age 18, he had a 7 foot 7 wingspan and has great upper body strength. He's always the first in the gym and the last to leave, and is as eager as anybody to improve his game.

He's starting to piece it together a little bit. He's had a few solid games recently. He's a terrific shotblocker, and has even been more active on offense recently. He's starting to get a consistent hook shot and makes short jumpers every now and then as well. I'll start to worry a little if he's still like this in his contract year, but I expect drastic improvement in about 2-3 years, not before then. He's still learning the game.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#130 » by toquito » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:58 pm

I thought i heard somewhere that they didn't even know BIyombo's age. Like he could 23 or something? Anyways yeah he's been pretty underwhelming for a 6th overall pick. But honestly if you look at the rest of that draft there's nobody else they would of realistically taken. You could say Vucevic or Klay Thompson but they had Henderson and Vucevic was a later pick. Hope he pans out for y'all.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#131 » by Eoghan » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:04 pm

Biyombo was taken 7th overall and medical analysis of his bones has confirmed that he is not 23 or something.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#132 » by Jase » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:17 pm

So much for this being a Henderson thread, eh?
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#133 » by LakerFanMan » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:32 pm

Jase wrote:So much for this being a Henderson thread, eh?


This is was I was just thinking.....

Back to Henderson, he's a pretty solid scorer. He still has a lot of work to do to improve his game, but I'm a fan.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#134 » by Elden Payton » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:26 am

He's pretty much a jack of all trades, master of fun.

He scores, he defends, he rebounds and when motivated he can playmake quite handily as well.

The SG position is thin in the NBA at the moment and Henderson more than holds his own.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#135 » by chiefkeef » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:30 am

all i know is this guy has a 92 midrange on 2k and it's annoying and fake af
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#136 » by HornetJail » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:01 am

chiefkeef wrote:all i know is this guy has a 92 midrange on 2k and it's annoying and fake af

He's an elite mid-range shooter.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#137 » by Eoghan » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:06 am

He really is lord of the jumpshot. Midrange fadeaways give him a stiffy I think.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#138 » by ComboGuardCity » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:55 am

Henderson is killing it now. Hoping the Pistons make him an offer. Can't believe a contender didn't give them a late first rounder in a weak draft for him.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#139 » by Elden Payton » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:49 am

We were only shopping him for the right price.
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Re: Gerald Henderson 

Post#140 » by ComboGuardCity » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:34 pm

Sik Infant wrote:We were only shopping him for the right price.

There was a rumor in the WT that no contender was willing to give up a 1st round pick for him.

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