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Re: Denver SG/SFs 

Post#21 » by Goldtop » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:24 pm

I really like the idea of Iguodala as our SF. If last game was any proof, we desparately need someone at that position who can be a lock down defender.

He's one of the few who can hold his own against the LeBrons, Carmelos, Durants, etc.

I don't get the fascination with Wilson Chandler though. He's a solid SF, but he's not a game changer by any means. We need to get impact players with this capspace. AI impacts games and will make us a noticeably better team. I feel like Chandler would just blend in and not really make us that much better.
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Post#22 » by ComboGuardCity » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:30 pm

Goldtop wrote:I really like the idea of Iguodala as our SF. If last game was any proof, we desparately need someone at that position who can be a lock down defender.

He's one of the few who can hold his own against the LeBrons, Carmelos, Durants, etc.

I don't get the fascination with Wilson Chandler though. He's a solid SF, but he's not a game changer by any means. We need to get impact players with this capspace. AI impacts games and will make us a noticeably better team. I feel like Chandler would just blend in and not really make us that much better.

Given a chance he can be an elite wing defender. That's why nabbing him and a guy like Mayo who can score/distribute on the perimeter makes so much sense. Both Knight and Mayo are adequate scorers in the back court and can give you a decent 35 points combined. Then a guy like Chandler who can hit the corner 3 and can score if he's not asked to be the #1 option. Add our potentially dominant front court and we have the most well rounded team in the league.
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Re: Denver SG/SFs 

Post#23 » by Snakebites » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:45 pm

Is there a reason to think we CAN obtain Iguodala?

Is there some reason the Nuggets wouldn't want to resign him? They've had a pretty successful season to say the least.
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Post#24 » by Jodi » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:57 pm

Goldtop wrote:I really like the idea of Iguodala as our SF. If last game was any proof, we desparately need someone at that position who can be a lock down defender.

He's one of the few who can hold his own against the LeBrons, Carmelos, Durants, etc.

I don't get the fascination with Wilson Chandler though. He's a solid SF, but he's not a game changer by any means. We need to get impact players with this capspace. AI impacts games and will make us a noticeably better team. I feel like Chandler would just blend in and not really make us that much better.

Knight
Mayo
Chandler
Bullwinkle
Drummond
That would be an all-around good team...Chandler is a good defender, he can shot, and he can play the 2,3, and 4...Picking up a solid SF would be ideal for a young team, especially if we get a good coach that can bring the best out of them...I agree that Iggy would probably impact the game more than Chandler...But if the Nuggets end up re-signing Iggy, I think Chandler would be an awesome plan B...
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Post#25 » by Goldtop » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:59 pm

Snakebites wrote:Is there a reason to think we CAN obtain Iguodala?

Is there some reason the Nuggets wouldn't want to resign him? They've had a pretty successful season to say the least.


Just because they want to resign him, how does that give them any advantage? He's becoming a FA for a reason, likely so he can explore all his options. Considering we'll have as much capspace as anyone, I dont see why we wouldnt have the same chance as any team.

We have a pretty enticing frontline to attract FAs here. Iguodala loves to roam on defense and play the passing lanes. Playing with Drummond would allow him to do that. And if we offered as much money as other teams, that would be pretty attractive to Iguodala I think
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Post#26 » by Goldtop » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:04 pm

Jodi wrote:
Goldtop wrote:I really like the idea of Iguodala as our SF. If last game was any proof, we desparately need someone at that position who can be a lock down defender.

He's one of the few who can hold his own against the LeBrons, Carmelos, Durants, etc.

I don't get the fascination with Wilson Chandler though. He's a solid SF, but he's not a game changer by any means. We need to get impact players with this capspace. AI impacts games and will make us a noticeably better team. I feel like Chandler would just blend in and not really make us that much better.

Knight
Mayo
Chandler
Bullwinkle
Drummond
That would be all-around good team...Chandler is a good defender, he can shot, and he can play the 2,3, and 4...Picking up a solid SF would be ideal for a young team, especially if we get a good coach that can bring the best out of them...


We'd be a good team. But with maybe 30 mil to spend in FA, after drafting top talent in the lottery 4 yrs straight, we should be able to become a great team. Thats kind of my point. Chandler/Mayo won't elevate us to anything great, imo. If were spending big money it should make a big difference on the court. I just think we can do better than them, if we're going on a spending spree.

Put it this way, I wouldnt be mad if thats who we got, as theyd be clear upgrades over what we have now. But they are definitely Plan B type options for me, not my first choice
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Re: Denver SG/SFs 

Post#27 » by Snakebites » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:36 pm

Goldtop wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Is there a reason to think we CAN obtain Iguodala?

Is there some reason the Nuggets wouldn't want to resign him? They've had a pretty successful season to say the least.


Just because they want to resign him, how does that give them any advantage? He's becoming a FA for a reason, likely so he can explore all his options. Considering we'll have as much capspace as anyone, I dont see why we wouldnt have the same chance as any team.

We have a pretty enticing frontline to attract FAs here. Iguodala loves to roam on defense and play the passing lanes. Playing with Drummond would allow him to do that. And if we offered as much money as other teams, that would be pretty attractive to Iguodala I think



The fact that he's choosing to become a free agent means one thing and one thing only: he wants to secure a long term contract while his value is high. It says little to nothing one way or another about how likely he is to actually leave Denver.

I agree that there are some things on our team that might make it attractive to a potential free agent, but I'm still not convinced, money being equal, that he'd leave a current situation like Denver for one like ours. If we were to get him I'd expect we'd probably have to overpay him considerably, and by overpay I mean we'd have to outbid Denver.

How high are you/we willing to go?
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Post#28 » by ComboGuardCity » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:45 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Goldtop wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Is there a reason to think we CAN obtain Iguodala?

Is there some reason the Nuggets wouldn't want to resign him? They've had a pretty successful season to say the least.


Just because they want to resign him, how does that give them any advantage? He's becoming a FA for a reason, likely so he can explore all his options. Considering we'll have as much capspace as anyone, I dont see why we wouldnt have the same chance as any team.

We have a pretty enticing frontline to attract FAs here. Iguodala loves to roam on defense and play the passing lanes. Playing with Drummond would allow him to do that. And if we offered as much money as other teams, that would be pretty attractive to Iguodala I think



The fact that he's choosing to become a free agent means one thing and one thing only: he wants to secure a long term contract while his value is high. It says little to nothing one way or another about how likely he is to actually leave Denver.

I agree that there are some things on our team that might make it attractive to a potential free agent, but I'm still not convinced, money being equal, that he'd leave a current situation like Denver for one like ours. If we were to get him I'd expect we'd probably have to overpay him considerably, and by overpay I mean we'd have to outbid Denver.

How high are you/we willing to go?

I'd give him 3yr/36 at most.

Would much rather have combination of:

Henderson:
4yr/30

Chandler
3yr/20
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Re: Denver SG/SFs 

Post#29 » by DetroitPistons » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:50 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Goldtop wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Is there a reason to think we CAN obtain Iguodala?

Is there some reason the Nuggets wouldn't want to resign him? They've had a pretty successful season to say the least.


Just because they want to resign him, how does that give them any advantage? He's becoming a FA for a reason, likely so he can explore all his options. Considering we'll have as much capspace as anyone, I dont see why we wouldnt have the same chance as any team.

We have a pretty enticing frontline to attract FAs here. Iguodala loves to roam on defense and play the passing lanes. Playing with Drummond would allow him to do that. And if we offered as much money as other teams, that would be pretty attractive to Iguodala I think



The fact that he's choosing to become a free agent means one thing and one thing only: he wants to secure a long term contract while his value is high. It says little to nothing one way or another about how likely he is to actually leave Denver.

I agree that there are some things on our team that might make it attractive to a potential free agent, but I'm still not convinced, money being equal, that he'd leave a current situation like Denver for one like ours. If we were to get him I'd expect we'd probably have to overpay him considerably, and by overpay I mean we'd have to outbid Denver.

How high are you/we willing to go?


Yeah I think we would have to overpay for sure but I could also see Denver not wanting to give him a 5 year contract. They are loaded at the wing positions so I could see them letting Iggy walk. It's not a lock that he will come here but if we throw enough money at him it's a possibility. He would be a perfect fit because he fills several needs. He is a lock down perimeter defender, fantastic secondary ballhandler/playmaker, and can spread the floor well enough to keep the defense honest. I would throw 12-14mil per year at him.

Knight
Muhammad
Iguodala
Monroe
Drummond

Two lockdown perimeter defenders in Knight and Iguodala and very big overall lineup with a defensive anchor in the middle. Iggy could actually run the offense with Knight and Muhammad playing off the ball too.
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Re: Denver SG/SFs 

Post#30 » by Goldtop » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:14 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Goldtop wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Is there a reason to think we CAN obtain Iguodala?

Is there some reason the Nuggets wouldn't want to resign him? They've had a pretty successful season to say the least.


Just because they want to resign him, how does that give them any advantage? He's becoming a FA for a reason, likely so he can explore all his options. Considering we'll have as much capspace as anyone, I dont see why we wouldnt have the same chance as any team.

We have a pretty enticing frontline to attract FAs here. Iguodala loves to roam on defense and play the passing lanes. Playing with Drummond would allow him to do that. And if we offered as much money as other teams, that would be pretty attractive to Iguodala I think



The fact that he's choosing to become a free agent means one thing and one thing only: he wants to secure a long term contract while his value is high. It says little to nothing one way or another about how likely he is to actually leave Denver.

I agree that there are some things on our team that might make it attractive to a potential free agent, but I'm still not convinced, money being equal, that he'd leave a current situation like Denver for one like ours. If we were to get him I'd expect we'd probably have to overpay him considerably, and by overpay I mean we'd have to outbid Denver.

How high are you/we willing to go?


How high is Denver willing to go?

Thats why I disagree somewhat with your first paragraph. True, he wants to secure a long term contract and get paid more money overall, but that does say something about his desire to stay in Denver, because the odds of Denver agreeing to those terms aren't 100%. So he's obviously open to the idea of playing elsewhere, as he knows its not guaranteed Denver will meet his demands.

What I'd be willing to give him would be no more than 4 yrs because of his age. And probaby no more than 12 mil per, give or take a mil. So maybe something like 4 yr/50 mil

He's definitely the #1 SF in FA, which is our #1 position of need. And given that we have $25 mil to spend, we should pursue him hard.

Denver is going to have 56 mil in committed salary already, without AI. How much can they really afford to spend, given the new luxury tax penalty? And how much would it really be worth it to them, when they have a capable replacement already on the team in Chandler, locked up at only 6 mil/yr?

So if Denver cant afford him, what other teams would offer him more than 4 yr/50 mil?

idk all the teams with capspace, but I cant imagine any of them are any more attractive than us. Its not like there will be contenders other than Denver that can afford him at that price, or even have a need at SF. Most of the top teams are set at SF.
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Re: Denver SG/SFs 

Post#31 » by King Bugs » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:34 pm

Andre Iguodala won't even step foot on a plane heading in the direction of Detroit without a max deal on the table.

If Iggy is who we want this summer, then max money is what we better be prepared to give him.

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