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Rasho Brezec wrote:KnicksGod wrote:There are a handful of people at least in this thread alone who would take Lin and Brandon over Rubio. So your point is so easily dismissed that it's a waste of time.
I only see you and that guy who only shows up when Lin has a good game. Everyone else knows Rubio is better.
KnicksGod wrote:Rasho Brezec wrote:KnicksGod wrote:There are a handful of people at least in this thread alone who would take Lin and Brandon over Rubio. So your point is so easily dismissed that it's a waste of time.
I only see you and that guy who only shows up when Lin has a good game. Everyone else knows Rubio is better.
And probably frogfood. That's 3 in a conversation with 5 people.
Rasho Brezec wrote:
And yet he's still top 5 in assists at the rim. Clearly the defenses respect him enough to focus on him and that's all that matters.
KnicksGod wrote:GONYK wrote:I can't think of anyone who is interested in winning that would take Jennings over Rubio
That's true because the Wolves are in the playoffs and the Bucks are way out of it.
Thugger HBC wrote:Well here is something to think about....
Why does Rubio has the best player efficiency rating of the three?
I'll wait.
KnicksGod wrote:GONYK wrote:I can't think of anyone who is interested in winning that would take Jennings over Rubio
That's true because the Wolves are in the playoffs and the Bucks are way out of it.
Thugger HBC wrote:GettinitDone wrote:They dealt Nash to the Mavs, and he was the starter, and in his first 2 years in Dallas, he really sucked that mild-mannered Mavs fans booed him.
Point is: shooting 41% from 3 in 2 full months, which is more than 1/3 of a regular season, is more than just hot. Did you see his youtube summer workouts? All he did was Lin Lin Lin <Melo's voice>... I mean... shoot 3s. His legs look funny in the air, but his shooting mechanics are fine. He has rainbow arc which is a sign of a good shooter, than flat arc shooters who can get very inconsistent.
Nash came into the league as an elite shooter.
Disput this point first.
frogfood wrote:Rasho Brezec wrote:
And yet he's still top 5 in assists at the rim. Clearly the defenses respect him enough to focus on him and that's all that matters.
Source?
KnicksGod wrote:Straw Man No. 343243212(a)(ii): That we are saying that you need to be a great *shooter* to be enough of a threat offensively, rather than just a good scorer. Rondo is a good example. I love his game and he's a great playmaker in part because he is a threat to score.
Anyway, I'll try what you guys are doing and say you're just wrong because I said so.
There isn't a coach or a GM alive who wouldn't tell you that Rubio needs to improve a lot as a scorer to be a major impact player in this league.
Give me a break.
GettinitDone wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:GettinitDone wrote:They dealt Nash to the Mavs, and he was the starter, and in his first 2 years in Dallas, he really sucked that mild-mannered Mavs fans booed him.
Point is: shooting 41% from 3 in 2 full months, which is more than 1/3 of a regular season, is more than just hot. Did you see his youtube summer workouts? All he did was Lin Lin Lin <Melo's voice>... I mean... shoot 3s. His legs look funny in the air, but his shooting mechanics are fine. He has rainbow arc which is a sign of a good shooter, than flat arc shooters who can get very inconsistent.
Nash came into the league as an elite shooter.
Disput this point first.
So what Nash didn't do **** in his first 4 years in the L!
(...he was missing wide-open shots anyway...)
Rasho Brezec wrote:frogfood wrote:Rasho Brezec wrote:
And yet he's still top 5 in assists at the rim. Clearly the defenses respect him enough to focus on him and that's all that matters.
Source?
http://www.hoopdata.com/passingstats.aspx
frogfood wrote:
Thanks for the link, from there I found out Rubio is for PG getting 25 mins (reasonable):
1. DEAD last in EFG
2. 3rd to last in TS%
3. 3rd to last in standard FG%
This is with his defender playing free safety too. So I think I proved my point.
) KnicksGod wrote:frogfood wrote:
Thanks for the link, from there I found out Rubio is for PG getting 25 mins (reasonable):
1. DEAD last in EFG
2. 3rd to last in TS%
3. 3rd to last in standard FG%
This is with his defender playing free safety too. So I think I proved my point.
Brutal numbers.
All I'll concede is that Rubio is obviously good at running an offense and finding people and he's very young. For him to even be on the court still, he is obviously really good at those other things. But you can't be that bad at getting your own points if you want to be a good starter. That's all I'm saying.
(And as a footnote, it doesn't sound like frogfood thinks Rubio is clearly better than anybody but I guess he's the swing vote here
KnicksGod wrote:GONYK wrote:I can't think of anyone who is interested in winning that would take Jennings over Rubio
That's true because the Wolves are in the playoffs and the Bucks are way out of it.
KnicksGod wrote:frogfood wrote:
Thanks for the link, from there I found out Rubio is for PG getting 25 mins (reasonable):
1. DEAD last in EFG
2. 3rd to last in TS%
3. 3rd to last in standard FG%
This is with his defender playing free safety too. So I think I proved my point.
Brutal numbers.
All I'll concede is that Rubio is obviously good at running an offense and finding people and he's very young. For him to even be on the court still, he is obviously really good at those other things. But you can't be that bad at getting your own points if you want to be a good starter. That's all I'm saying.
(And as a footnote, it doesn't sound like frogfood thinks Rubio is clearly better than anybody but I guess he's the swing vote here