Around the nba part 7

[frogfood]

Gotcha. I'd watch them over Thunder games to be honest. Memphis, Indy can be coma-inducing at times too.

[Rasho Brezec]

I'm taking Lin over Rubio and I love Rubio as much if not more than anyone on here... Lin just does more for me on the basketball floor especially if he's given room to breathe and not micromanaged by his coach... I can ask him to score... Take late game shots..get his teammates involved... Help on the glass...he's a more physical player..he gets to the line.. I don't even have to think hard about it honestly.

This post cannot possibly be real because no soul would take Lin over Rubio ... and certainly not a guy who loves PG play as much as Ibraheim does.

I think we now have a majority: Lin > Rubio.

Put this on the player comparison board.

[Clyde_Style]

Jeremy Lin is a man of God!

[kakaman]

I'm taking Lin over Rubio and I love Rubio as much if not more than anyone on here... Lin just does more for me on the basketball floor especially if he's given room to breathe and not micromanaged by his coach... I can ask him to score... Take late game shots..get his teammates involved... Help on the glass...he's a more physical player..he gets to the line.. I don't even have to think hard about it honestly.

This post cannot possibly be real because no soul would take Lin over Rubio ... and certainly not a guy who loves PG play as much as Ibraheim does.

I think we now have a majority: Lin > Rubio.

Not sure what this proves...Rubio is just not good. He's been a pro for like 5 years now! If you couldn't shoot in the Spanish leagues, how can you shoot in the NBA? People don't end up shooting better when they make the switch.

[Clyde_Style]

If your posts are not faith-based, we don't want you here! Praise the Lin!

[Rasho Brezec]

Aaaaand we've finally reached the inevitable place where bringing Jeremy Lin up in comparison to the Knicks leads.

Everyone and their mother knows we aren't going to run our offense through Jeremy Lin with Melo on the team.

Lin was not going to be our leader, and he was never going to become our Rondo. He was never going to be the player that all the others followed into battle. This is Melo's team, for better or worse.

This is basically it. Lin is ball dominant, Melo is ball dominant. Durant and Westbrook can get away with it because they're both freaks of nature, Lin and Melo aren't. And even then, there's no doubt who the man on that OKC team is.

[Thugger HBC]

I'm taking Lin over Rubio and I love Rubio as much if not more than anyone on here... Lin just does more for me on the basketball floor especially if he's given room to breathe and not micromanaged by his coach... I can ask him to score... Take late game shots..get his teammates involved... Help on the glass...he's a more physical player..he gets to the line.. I don't even have to think hard about it honestly.

This post cannot possibly be real because no soul would take Lin over Rubio ... and certainly not a guy who loves PG play as much as Ibraheim does.

I think we now have a majority: Lin > Rubio.

Put this on the player comparison board.

You had folks willing to take Rubio, even during Linsanity.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1160132

^^ This is from our own board during Linsanity.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1159419&start=60

player comprison...

[kakaman]

^^ WTF 50pgs on Lin vs Rubio? Man this board was crazy back in the day

[GONYK]

Aaaaand we've finally reached the inevitable place where bringing Jeremy Lin up in comparison to the Knicks leads.

Everyone and their mother knows we aren't going to run our offense through Jeremy Lin with Melo on the team.

Lin was not going to be our leader, and he was never going to become our Rondo. He was never going to be the player that all the others followed into battle. This is Melo's team, for better or worse.

This is basically it. Lin is ball dominant, Melo is ball dominant. Durant and Westbrook can get away with it because they're both freaks of nature, Lin and Melo aren't. And even then, there's no doubt who the man on that OKC team is.

There definitely is in Westbrook's mind

[frogfood]

There definitely is in Westbrook's mind

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9bc5t54l0[/youtube]

Seeing KD exasperated never fails to be amusing.

[j4remi]

There definitely is in Westbrook's mind

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9bc5t54l0[/youtube]

Seeing KD exasperated never fails to be amusing.

I prefer when Ibaka takes a long jumper or Perkins misses a close range finish and you get to see both KD and Westbrook's faces wash over with the glazed "Two of us are gonna have to share every shot for the rest of this quarter again" look.

[god shammgod]

^^ WTF 50pgs on Lin vs Rubio? Man this board was crazy back in the day

back in the day ? this is going on for like 20 - 30 pages right now.

[Rasho Brezec]

Phew, looking back at that thread, I'm glad I'm consistent. And NyKnicks1714, who is always the voice of reason, had similar thoughts, so I know I'm right.

[GONYK]

^^ WTF 50pgs on Lin vs Rubio? Man this board was crazy back in the day

back in the day ? this is going on for like 20 - 30 threads right now.

Fixed

[K_ick_God]

Classic cherrypicking. Cite the General Board only when it's convenient, even when people say outlandish things on that board all the time. The GB had us dead and buried about 10 days ago. How is that looking now?

It's not really outlandish to pick Rubio over Lin. I'm fine with it. But you're doing so based on potential and not recent history. You're not doing it based on anything Rubio has actually done in the NBA. It's his name and child prodigy label. That always counts for a lot. It's why Darryl Strawberry was always considered a great prospect WELL AFTER we already knew what he was: Not that great.

And I personally disagree on potential. I think Lin's ceiling is pretty high.

Lin will always be skewed in what the "conventional wisdom" thinks of him (conventional wisdom is just another way of saying "usually wrong" anyway). He IN PARTICULAR will always be underrated:

Lin's race, undrafted status, Harvard days AND Linsanity (which has confused people into thinking it was all hype, even though the prevailing hype we're left with NOW is that Linsanity was hype) all are huge factors that make people misunderstand his game, his quality as a player, and his potential. It's all pretty messed up.

And too bad for us, Dolan and even some basketball people must've fallen victim to the above ... in addition to the other contract- and ego-based issues that arose.

It sucks. I'm glad we're a good team, better than I thought, but the only fair analysis is that we would have been better with Lin.

[j4remi]

So Rubio is overrated because of potential despite his numbers but Lin's a victim of being underrated because of his race and all these other factors...and not the fact that he's put up mediocre numbers over a span three times as long as the Linsanity span?

[K_ick_God]

So Rubio is overrated because of potential despite his numbers but Lin's a victim of being underrated because of his race and all these other factors...and not the fact that he's put up mediocre numbers over a span three times as long as the Linsanity span?

Hardly mediocre. He took a little while to get going this season; he didn't have a good November.

Most important and revealing is that his highs are still really high and not that rare. He has had some huge games post-ASB and they tell you that Linsanity was not a fluke. I don't think that consistency will be a problem for him as he gets older. That's youth. In young guys, the high points are pretty key indicators to watch for. They tell you where his actual potential is as long as they're relatively frequent if far from every night (not 1 out like 50 games like Goran's Dragicsanity the other night in a home loss).

Young guys should be judged on their potential mixed with how they look in NBA games, and whether they're performing. Game-to-game consistency is not as indicative. But you can't look at one good game from Dragic all year, or simply look at Rubio's Euro highlights ... or the fact that his name is alliterative or that he looks like a pre-teen girl's pinup poster.

Even after "Linsanity," Lin had All-Star caliber games for the Knicks. That's the funny part. Under Woodson and with Melo back, Lin still helped the Knicks win pressure games ... games with playoff implications ... a few quiet games yes, but just about as many big ones too. Not the gaudy numbers of Linsanity, but he was still balling.

[j4remi]

Okay...Lin...no hype machine...Rubio, product of the hype machine.

Lin numbers, not mediocre because he can score.
Rubio's numbers...mediocre because he's a poor shooter which rendering his superior assist and rebounding numbers unimportant...Forget PER too.

Got it.

[ibraheim718]

In fairness that thread was before Rubios acl injury... And rasho its your opinion to prefer whoever our whatever the hell you want that doesn't make you right... Besides everyone knows you're biased to European players anyway... So slow your roll chief.

[frogfood]

Declaring "I'm right" after each opinion got old.

Anyway, how does this happen: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... -Extension