Around the nba part 7

[seren]

Pretty much.

I disagree about the pay-cut part, though. I doubt he's going to take such a pay-cut 2 seasons in a row, even if his family is totally comfortable in NYC. This season he basically gave money away just to experience the NBA. In a way, it's like as if he paid for a year-long luxurious cruise around elite parts of the US (please disregard the fact that he needs to work his ass off every day ). Now that that's going to be scratched off the list, money is probably going to play a larger role (still not AS important of a role, but bigger than this season).

Would the Knicks be willing to pay around 1.5 mil for Pablo's 2nd season? Don't forget about the ridic luxury tax, it's not what it used to be.

The most we can pay him is 988K unless he is getting part of mini-MLE.

[SportsGuy8]

It's going to be a problem without Bird exceptions ...

Well, 988k is still better than this year's 473k, or whatever it is.

Btw., besides Europe, I wonder if there's going to be interest from other NBA teams. There are always a couple of teams in desperate need of some short-term backup PG solutions. I wouldn't be surprised by someone throwing 2+ mil at Pablo.

[Brooklyn_Yards]

It's going to be a problem without Bird exceptions ...

Well, 988k is still better than this year's 473k, or whatever it is.

Btw., besides Europe, I wonder if there's going to be interest from other NBA teams. There are always a couple of teams in desperate need of some short-term backup PG solutions. I wouldn't be surprised by someone throwing 2+ mil at Pablo.

If Pablo leaves and with White a goner, Bdiddy (they kept him around for next season.) and Chris Smith will fill those spots. Our backcourt next season.

Felton/Kidd/Diddy
Shump/Jr/Chris

If we draft a guard Shump will probably make the permanent move to SF.

[Rasho Brezec]

Chris Smith won't be on the roster. Shump won't be a SF.

[knicksnyk]

He has a better overall impact than Calderon does. I don't think it's really debatable.

No he doesn't. Offensively he does not.

jose is the better ball handler better passer. less turnover prone has the higher TS% & efg% & you want to tell me that rubio has a greater overall impact? Jose is way more gifted offensively than rubio (rubio will never be as offensively talented as jose). defensively rubio is WAY better than Jose. So therefore there impact is pretty much identical.

Rubio runs an offense. Calderon pounds the ball. Also, rubios defensive advantage is far larger than calderons. Watch the games. Calderon does little to help his team win.

LOL at you telling me to watch the games. I have probably seen jose play a lot more than you have considering I am living in toronto.

but anyway even if i concede your point. the Minnesota offense scores more points with ricky off the floor than on because minny has to play 4 on 5.

[moocow007]

So, according to WT, Christine's house was robbed:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... orth-$340K

After arriving to his home after celebrating his 29th birthday, Chris Bosh found he had been robbed of $340,000 worth of jewelry and purses, but his 2012 NBA Championship ring was left untouched, Miami Beach Police said Thursday.

Although Bosh's championship ring was not stolen, the thieves picked what they wanted from his jewelry box.

"We are leaning on the side of this being an inside job," said Miami Beach Police spokesman Bobby Hernandez.

I'm wagering that the purses were his, as well

Someone photoshop some Heat players faces into the Usual Suspects lineup!

As far the purses go, there are man purses. It's actually quite fashionable. Same with manziers. Man heels.

[knicksnyk]

KnicksGod actually just made a nice description about Calderon. If Calderon had better athleticism and size, he would actually make a great SG, a SG with a very team-oriented game, without many mistakes.

As for you guys debating Lin vs. Rubio earlier in this thread, I don't even want to comment. My reactions would be best described by my above posted pics.
I love Lin, but I just don't think many of you appreciate all the little things Rubio does for his teams. I feel like he's never going to be fully appreciated by most people, because many of his qualities just can't be measured and you actually have to pay close attention again and again to see them (which is hard to do for anyone who doesn't watch Wolves' games regularly, and by regularly I mean almost every minute of every game, being focused strictly on Rubio; yes you basically have to STALK him during games, no matter where the ball is ).

minestoa's offense runs better with ricky off the floor than on the floor because he is a liability as a shot creator for himself. rubio doesn't have lins explosive athleticism & ricky never will. i love rubio he is one of my favourite pgs' (him lin conley & lowry) but lin is better than ricky.

[Brooklyn_Yards]

Chris Smith won't be on the roster. Shump won't be a SF.

In a perfect world no these things wouldn't happen. Shump is for better of worse our starting SF now why would that change?

[NBA Fan 1234]

No he doesn't. Offensively he does not.

jose is the better ball handler better passer. less turnover prone has the higher TS% & efg% & you want to tell me that rubio has a greater overall impact? Jose is way more gifted offensively than rubio (rubio will never be as offensively talented as jose). defensively rubio is WAY better than Jose. So therefore there impact is pretty much identical.

Rubio runs an offense. Calderon pounds the ball. Also, rubios defensive advantage is far larger than calderons. Watch the games. Calderon does little to help his team win.

LOL at you telling me to watch the games. I have probably seen jose play a lot more than you have considering I am living in toronto.

but anyway even if i concede your point. the Minnesota offense scores more points with ricky off the floor than on because minny has to play 4 on 5.

i have league pass...basketball is always on in my dorm room.

i honestly dont see any argument for calderon being better than ricky aside from his shooting ability. that's it.

[barborous]

Calderon is worse than either Rubio or Lin. He just disappears for long stretches and, as mentioned earlier, pounds the ball notoriously. Despite his impressive shooting numbers, he doesn't take advantage of them and is way too selective, often leaving his team out to dry. He also almost never breaks down the defense by driving. Many of his assists are "empty" assists, from passing for a contested or out-of-rhythm jumpshot at the last second, and he's never led particularly good offenses.

It's true that the Minny offense runs better this year without Rubio, which is pretty damning. But you have to remember he was absolutely godawful when he first came back, in pretty much every way, which skews the stats. More recently, if you watch the games, it's clear that he has a net positive impact, and shows flashes of being able to be a brilliant offensive general, though his lack of a consistent shot is a fair criticism. I'm not ready to proclaim him as indubitably better than Lin or a future star yet, but I'm a believer in Rubio.

[knicksnyk]

Calderon is worse than either Rubio or Lin. He just disappears for long stretches and, as mentioned earlier, pounds the ball notoriously. Despite his impressive shooting numbers, he doesn't take advantage of them and is way too selective, often leaving his team out to dry. He also almost never breaks down the defense by driving.

It's true that the Minny offense runs better this year without Rubio, which is pretty damning. But you have to remember he was absolutely godawful when he first came back, in pretty much every way, which skews the stats. More recently, if you watch the games, it's clear that he has a net positive impact, and shows flashes of being able to be a brilliant offensive general, though his lack of a consistent shot is a fair criticism. I'm not ready to proclaim him as indubitably better than Lin or a future star yet, but I'm a believer in Rubio.

minny's offense runs better without rubio last season too though. minny's offense will forever run better with rubio off the floor than with him on the floor as long as he has a 49% ts% & a 40% efg%. Like I said rubio lacks that explosive athleticism that is needed. even if rubio develops a 3 point shot like kidd did. rubio will never get the explosive athleticism that guys like rondo, kidd & wall have all players who are poor 3 point shooters but still can get to the rim at will. rubios fg% at the rim is 47% lol 47%. lin is so much better it isn't even funny.

[rockmanslim]

KnicksGod actually just made a nice description about Calderon. If Calderon had better athleticism and size, he would actually make a great SG, a SG with a very team-oriented game, without many mistakes.

As for you guys debating Lin vs. Rubio earlier in this thread, I don't even want to comment. My reactions would be best described by my above posted pics.
I love Lin, but I just don't think many of you appreciate all the little things Rubio does for his teams. I feel like he's never going to be fully appreciated by most people, because many of his qualities just can't be measured and you actually have to pay close attention again and again to see them (which is hard to do for anyone who doesn't watch Wolves' games regularly, and by regularly I mean almost every minute of every game, being focused strictly on Rubio; yes you basically have to STALK him during games, no matter where the ball is ).

minestoa's offense runs better with ricky off the floor than on the floor because he is a liability as a shot creator for himself. rubio doesn't have lins explosive athleticism & ricky never will. i love rubio he is one of my favourite pgs' (him lin conley & lowry) but lin is better than ricky.

where are you getting that minnesota's offense runs better without rubio?

according to bbref, minny's ORtg with/without ricky is 103.6/102.9 (+0.7).

houston's ORtg with/without lin is 109.5/111.6 (-2.1).

[J0rdan4life42o]

so I was browsing the Nuggets forum, I was curious to see what any of their fans thought of Melo's last few games relative to what they were accustomed to seeing from him. During my quest, I didn't find much since they're not really active over there, but I found a gem from a few weeks ago anyways...not sure where to post this or if it should even be discussed since it's about a certain former active poster (if it's frowned upon, please do accept my apology mods)...but I think he caused enough agitation here with his agenda driven nonsense to a point where I think singling him out is definitely called for and I'm sure many will find some incredible inner joy from this...

Best thing the nuggets did was making this trade with the desperate knicks. the nuggs and nets played dolan like a fiddle... that pretty much was the last straw for me, and I have been a knick fan for over 30 years.. I liked the way Denver has done business for some time now, and I as of the trade pretty much have adopted Denver as my other team, which is now the team I prefer to watch.. I am tired of this loyalty crap.. if the ownership isn't loyal to the fans, then why be loyal to their team.... The nuggets did a great job getting value for a player that honestly wasn't a true superstar and pretty much a one way player.... they also got picks for the future.. I say good job by denver management and it is evident, the nuggets are much better than the knicks are right now... what a job done by this nugget organization...

I just hope he was sitting in those stands towards the end of the game when those MVP chants were roaring...

[kNicksGmen]

i saw that too, i was doing the same thing (seeing if any of their fans mentioned melo's recent games) and saw tkf's post. dude is pure comedy.

[Rasho Brezec]

Let it go. The stalking is pathetic.

[K_ick_God]

Go Bulls?

Yep.

[J0rdan4life42o]

Let it go. The stalking is pathetic.

eh. come on. no one's stalking him. If anything, I was stalking Nuggets fans to get their take on what Anthony is doing. He was the last person/poster I was even thinking about, I just happened to see the game thread with him being the last to post. and while I agree this sort of action would be considered pathetic in most cases, this is one of the lone exceptions.

[Rasho Brezec]

Look at your username, you're hardly someone who's allowed to call anyone out on this board.

[kNicksGmen]

noah still hurt i guess?

[J0rdan4life42o]

Go Bulls?

Yep.

Absolutely. Plus, I'd get a good chuckle out of them possibly losing home court in the 1st round. Unlikely, but there's still a chance.