Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edition)

[KingRobb02]

I just read about it, uhow... and he earned 11.5M in NBA contracts.

If the NBA cared about these guys, they would make half of their first 5 years pay deferred into an annuity payable after they file for retirement. As of now, it's just a bunch of people who come into the NBA thinking their first deal is just the beginning and they just blow through it expecting to be employed for more than 4 years.

[Last Guardian]

All this talk of next years draft is premature. It depends on what Henny does. We were about .500 when everyone was healthy and a starting lineup of Nelson, AA, Hark, BBD and Vucci. And since that time Hark has really improved and Vucci has gotten better too. If we roll out the same lineup next season I am not so sure we'd be bad enough. Add in Harris coming off the bench, KOQ being pretty decent backup C and having a probable top 2 draft pick on the team as well.

Basically, Henny will have to do some trading of vets if we want to tank next season for Wiggins. Or we have to hope for a repeat of our injury situation.

[tiderulz]

Haha, I really don't think he needs your sympathy right now. You asked why he doesn't have a weed carrier and I was just telling you why.

Well, JC would still have an one million house, so that's not THAT bad

Here in Atlanta, a million doesn't get as much as you think. Plus I doubt he can afford the upkeep. Has anyone seen that story of what happened to Robert Swift's house?

ummm, depending where in atlanta you are, $1million can get you a pretty decent place. Not Jay-Z style, but you can still get a nice, large place.

[tiderulz]

I just read about it, uhow... and he earned 11.5M in NBA contracts.

If the NBA cared about these guys, they would make half of their first 5 years pay deferred into an annuity payable after they file for retirement. As of now, it's just a bunch of people who come into the NBA thinking their first deal is just the beginning and they just blow through it expecting to be employed for more than 4 years.

would you allow your company to defer any of your money? They make mandatory classes to all rookies, have former players that are broke now, come in and talk to them, have financial advisors available to them, etc. So they do care about it. But you cant force people to be responsible.

[KingRobb02]

I just read about it, uhow... and he earned 11.5M in NBA contracts.

If the NBA cared about these guys, they would make half of their first 5 years pay deferred into an annuity payable after they file for retirement. As of now, it's just a bunch of people who come into the NBA thinking their first deal is just the beginning and they just blow through it expecting to be employed for more than 4 years.

would you allow your company to defer any of your money? They make mandatory classes to all rookies, have former players that are broke now, come in and talk to them, have financial advisors available to them, etc. So they do care about it. But you cant force people to be responsible.

My line of work doesn't have a median career time of less than 4 years and I'm not a performer working on guaranteed contracts. That's not a good comparison. If you think offering a class is caring, you are sorely mistaken. These are guys who have mostly skated by in school because they knew they wouldn't need to graduate from college. What makes you think they are paying attention to the people in these NBA classes?

[KingRobb02]

Here in Atlanta, a million doesn't get as much as you think. Plus I doubt he can afford the upkeep. Has anyone seen that story of what happened to Robert Swift's house?

ummm, depending where in atlanta you are, $1million can get you a pretty decent place. Not Jay-Z style, but you can still get a nice, large place.

Well, he obviously wouldn't want to live in a bad neighborhood in Atlanta. My neighborhood is far from the nicest, but a 1 bedroom 1 bathroom place is in the 400s and 3 bedroom places are going for the high 800s.

[tiderulz]

Here in Atlanta, a million doesn't get as much as you think. Plus I doubt he can afford the upkeep. Has anyone seen that story of what happened to Robert Swift's house?

ummm, depending where in atlanta you are, $1million can get you a pretty decent place. Not Jay-Z style, but you can still get a nice, large place.

Well, he obviously wouldn't want to live in a bad neighborhood in Atlanta. My neighborhood is far from the nicest, but a 1 bedroom 1 bathroom place is in the 400s and 3 bedroom places are going for the high 800s.

dang, i paid less than half that for 5 bed/ 3 bath place. but i do live outside the perimeter

[BadMofoPimp]

Down here in Orlando, you can get a nice 5/3 for $250k in a decent area.

[KingRobb02]

dang, i paid less than half that for 5 bed/ 3 bath place. but i do live outside the perimeter

I love my neighborhood, but don't think I haven't considered move OTP. I just really hate traffic and living in the city saves me about an hour on my commute everyday.

[tranjSAIC]

Well, he obviously wouldn't want to live in a bad neighborhood in Atlanta. My neighborhood is far from the nicest, but a 1 bedroom 1 bathroom place is in the 400s and 3 bedroom places are going for the high 800s.

Where in ATL you living man, that is freaking crazy NYC prices!

[G-Heel]

would you allow your company to defer any of your money? They make mandatory classes to all rookies, have former players that are broke now, come in and talk to them, have financial advisors available to them, etc. So they do care about it. But you cant force people to be responsible.

My line of work doesn't have a median career time of less than 4 years and I'm not a performer working on guaranteed contracts. That's not a good comparison. If you think offering a class is caring, you are sorely mistaken. These are guys who have mostly skated by in school because they knew they wouldn't need to graduate from college. What makes you think they are paying attention to the people in these NBA classes?

These kids probably don't pay attention, but that's their fault. I think the NBA cares enough, there's just a limit to what they can do. It just won't seem right for the league to take half their paycheck, even if it's for their best interest. They can't just be Big Brother and says I'm doing this for your own good. There will be so much rejections from the players. Best thing you can do is try to educate them and hope for the best.

[arsenal6106]

Part 53 is up.

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Enjoy!

[MoMM]

would you allow your company to defer any of your money? They make mandatory classes to all rookies, have former players that are broke now, come in and talk to them, have financial advisors available to them, etc. So they do care about it. But you cant force people to be responsible.

My line of work doesn't have a median career time of less than 4 years and I'm not a performer working on guaranteed contracts. That's not a good comparison. If you think offering a class is caring, you are sorely mistaken. These are guys who have mostly skated by in school because they knew they wouldn't need to graduate from college. What makes you think they are paying attention to the people in these NBA classes?

These kids probably don't pay attention, but that's their fault. I think the NBA cares enough, there's just a limit to what they can do. It just won't seem right for the league to take half their paycheck, even if it's for their best interest. They can't just be Big Brother and says I'm doing this for your own good. There will be so much rejections from the players. Best thing you can do is try to educate them and hope for the best.

Maybe that's part of the reason that NBA demands a player to go to college for at least 1 year, but looks like the players dont care and pay attention to the classes.

[BadMofoPimp]

IBTL!!!

[KingRobb02]

would you allow your company to defer any of your money? They make mandatory classes to all rookies, have former players that are broke now, come in and talk to them, have financial advisors available to them, etc. So they do care about it. But you cant force people to be responsible.

My line of work doesn't have a median career time of less than 4 years and I'm not a performer working on guaranteed contracts. That's not a good comparison. If you think offering a class is caring, you are sorely mistaken. These are guys who have mostly skated by in school because they knew they wouldn't need to graduate from college. What makes you think they are paying attention to the people in these NBA classes?

These kids probably don't pay attention, but that's their fault. I think the NBA cares enough, there's just a limit to what they can do. It just won't seem right for the league to take half their paycheck, even if it's for their best interest. They can't just be Big Brother and says I'm doing this for your own good. There will be so much rejections from the players. Best thing you can do is try to educate them and hope for the best.

Taking the "that's their fault" attitude is how our country is in such a massive hole now. Expecting 19 year olds to look into the future is not really the best plan for overall stability. If these kids weren't athletes, they would be just like the rest of the kids who take out 100k in student loans so they can study literature and never pay them back. Saying "that's their fault" is fine, but that doesn't lead to them making better decisions. I don't think it's Big Brotherish to say that 19 year olds are overconfident about their future earning potential so maybe we should be more active in protecting them from bad decisions. Especially when it's dealing with millions instead of thousands.

[KingRobb02]

My line of work doesn't have a median career time of less than 4 years and I'm not a performer working on guaranteed contracts. That's not a good comparison. If you think offering a class is caring, you are sorely mistaken. These are guys who have mostly skated by in school because they knew they wouldn't need to graduate from college. What makes you think they are paying attention to the people in these NBA classes?

These kids probably don't pay attention, but that's their fault. I think the NBA cares enough, there's just a limit to what they can do. It just won't seem right for the league to take half their paycheck, even if it's for their best interest. They can't just be Big Brother and says I'm doing this for your own good. There will be so much rejections from the players. Best thing you can do is try to educate them and hope for the best.

Maybe that's part of the reason that NBA demands a player to go to college for at least 1 year, but looks like the players dont care and pay attention to the classes.

in that one year in college, those kids know 2 things: A) I never plan to finish B) I have to keep my GPA up without working hard. They go no where near a difficult class. These kids all take stuff like 3 Phys Ed classes and "Intro to TV". The NBA demands they go to school to protect their free farm system AKA the NCAA.

[BadMofoPimp]

In that one year in, those kids learn how to be worshipped by fans, get as much pussay as they can handle and learn that they don't have to do anything for themselves because they will be taken care of.

[in-limbo]

Fine line when you are trying to recruit these kids from 8th grade. The athletes are going to the schools, agents, teams that kiss there ass the most, for the players it's probably not easy to remain grounded. It seems like these folks (ex. see Dwight's people), care about the guys the least and end up with the most control.

[IllMagic04]

Whats the deal with out MLE we got in the Coward trade? Does it expire at the end of this year or next? Or does it expire at all? Could we use it as a trade chip and get a extra draft pick this year or next? Im sure it might be tough to get anyone to part with pick next year though.