Jose Bautista is a Diva

[Redeemer]

makeup calls in nba are easy because all fouls are very subjective. the mlb is very different its clear cut. he's either out or safe. if they were to "makeup" a call it would have to be a bangbang play and they would have to wait for that. as for strikeouts, the umpires initiates the strikezone at the begining of the game, theres no changing that.

jeter has the right to complain he's a bonfide hall of famer with 5 world series rings and 3000 hits. bautista was a homerun champ for one year, which isn't a big accomplishment.

i find it funny you find it trolling when some disagrees with you. the wilnerisms continue.

[Redeemer]

Jose was just on OTR talking about many things, will post the video once it becomes available. He basically said that he's not trying to show anyone up and in the Dominican that's how they play, that's their style and maybe NA Baseball fans just aren't accustomed to seeing it.

he's not the first Dominican to play in north america. just a bunch of bs.

[Randle McMurphy]

makeup calls in nba are easy because all fouls are very subjective. the mlb is very different its clear cut. he's either out or safe.

Strike calls aren't "clear cut" at all. In fact, zones are the very definition of subjective in this sport. They vary from umpire to umpire and often from inning to inning. Isn't that what we were talking about?

jeter has the right to complain he's a bonfide hall of famer with 5 world series rings and 3000 hits. bautista was a homerun champ for one year, which isn't a big accomplishment.

So your argument now is that if you're good enough (like Jeter supposedly), you should be able to argue. But that Bautista (a much, much better player than Jeter since 2010) isn't good enough to do so. Yeah, this isn't trolling at all.

i find it funny you find it trolling when some disagrees with you. the wilnerisms continue.

It's not when somebody disagrees with me (which, if you notice, happens often on this forum). It's when somebody makes baseless claims to provoke others, like Bautista not having accomplished anything in the sport, like Bautista using PEDs, like Bautista's conduct somehow damaging his production/the clubhouse despite no evidence showing as such.

[Redeemer]

- strikezone can be subjective, but that doesn't mean there are makeup calls in baseball, please give me in example recently

- i can remember an incident probably in 2011 when bautista was batting and popped out he was angry and threw the bat down. the opposing pitcher yapped at him for being so angry despite the blue jays winning by a large margin. its that kind of cockiness bautista has thats really unappealing.

[Randle McMurphy]

- strikezone can be subjective, but that doesn't mean there are makeup calls in baseball, please give me in example recently

If the strike zone is subjective, why couldn't it be influenced by players and managers just like NBA calls are? Are MLB umpires somehow immune to that same kind of pressure? Just watch a bit of Derek Jeter and you'll see that they aren't.

- i can remember an incident probably in 2011 when bautista was batting and popped out he was angry and threw the bat down. the opposing pitcher yapped at him for being so angry despite the blue jays winning by a large margin. its that kind of cockiness bautista has thats really unappealing.

I don't know which incident you're talking about, but I find the fact that he cares so much about each one of his PAs very appealing.

[Redeemer]

- strikezone can be subjective, but that doesn't mean there are makeup calls in baseball, please give me in example recently

If the strike zone is subjective, why couldn't it be influenced by players and managers just like NBA calls are? Are MLB umpires somehow immune to that same kind of pressure? Just watch a bit of Derek Jeter and you'll see that they aren't.

- i can remember an incident probably in 2011 when bautista was batting and popped out he was angry and threw the bat down. the opposing pitcher yapped at him for being so angry despite the blue jays winning by a large margin. its that kind of cockiness bautista has thats really unappealing.

I don't know which incident you're talking about, but I find the fact that he cares so much about each one of his PAs very appealing.

still haven't given me a so called "makeup call"

theres no superstar calls in mlb. there mlb isn't fixed like the nba

[jaymeister15]

- strikezone can be subjective, but that doesn't mean there are makeup calls in baseball, please give me in example recently

- i can remember an incident probably in 2011 when bautista was batting and popped out he was angry and threw the bat down. the opposing pitcher yapped at him for being so angry despite the blue jays winning by a large margin. its that kind of cockiness bautista has thats really unappealing.

- We aren't in the umps head so have no clue if any of the close strike/ball calls are makeup ones. But, it's ridiculous to say it isn't possible to have a makeup call in baseball.

- Unappealing to who? the other pitcher? I remember that play and personally find it appealing that he gets angry at himself when he misses a good pitch regardless of the score.

[jaymeister15]

theres no superstar calls in mlb. there mlb isn't fixed like the nba

So you don't think an ump has ever given a Jeter (or a Bautista) a close pitch on a 3-2 count against some rookie pitcher?

[Redeemer]

theres no superstar calls in mlb. there mlb isn't fixed like the nba

So you don't think an ump has ever given a Jeter (or a Bautista) a close pitch on a 3-2 count against some rookie pitcher?

they may get the benefit of the doubt, but theres no makeup calls. the argument was that bautista arguing and complaining would put added pressure to ump to make the proper call next time. i think it would do the opposite and give bautista a bad name.

[satyr9]

Holy ****, Redeemer thinks Jose's a douche. Randle doesn't. Umpires make subjective calls for unknowable reasons. Are we done now?