Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III

[gambitx777]

^ thats why i kind of feel that we need to take Olynyk or Bennett, their are some solid guards and wings in the second round. I think we need to go big in the first round, then take some of those solid senior guards and wings in the second round.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

The more I think about it, the more I want Burke.

The way I see it, we are going to build a team around Wall. It's going to be filled with catch-and-shoot role players who defend but who can't create their own shot. Right now, Nene is the only guy besides Wall who can generate offense, and he can only do it when healthy. (Beal may be another offense creator at some point in his career, but not now.) Nene isn't going to be around forever. The point is, the offense fails without Wall on the floor because it's designed to work when Wall is on the floor. Without Wall, we are dead in the water. The solution is to find another version of John Wall to run the offense when Wall isn't on the court. Obviously, we don't have a #1 overall pick at our disposal to find a superstar caliber player, so what we want is a guy close to Wall offensively, even if he isn't so good on defense. Playing on the 2nd unit, his defensive liabilities won't hurt as much.

In this draft, that guy is Trey Burke. Burke can run the offense when Wall sits. And with Burke on the roster, we won't go 5-28 if Wall misses 33 games.

I'd try and trade up from our 2nd round pick to a late 1st rounder (over-the-cap teams with late 1sts may want to trade away that guaranteed contract). With that late 1st, I'd take one of the numerous defensive bigs, or McCollum.

This.

He's definitely my #1 hope where we draft (unless we win the lottery), but I doubt he's there at #8.

I REALLY like Burke, which is why I have him 3rd on my board for the Wizards after Noel and Porter, despite the lack of need at the pg position. He has the mentality that makes the whole team better. And as backup pg the team wouldn't miss a beat when Wall is not on the court.

And I agree with Nate, Burke and Wall could see plenty of court time together. I see a 3-headed guard rotation of Wall, Burke, Beal as a weapon for the Wizards putting constant pressure on the opposition. I'd personally love a draft of Burke and Muscala or McDermott. I want to add talented, mature, intelligent, and team oriented players in this draft. Players that will be able to seamlessly fit in to the chemistry this team has already seemingly built over this year.

[Dark Faze]

No chance Burke is available when we pick. He's probably top 3 talent in this draft, its just that a lot of the bad teams already have PG's.

Olynyk redeemed btw, he put in work on Wichita despite Gonzaga losing, and now Wichita is giving Louisville the business.

[nate33]

The best big man prospect in college basketball is Mitch McGary. He is tough as nails, grabs every rebound, has spectacular hands, a great motor, he's athletic and smart. He's everything the Plumlee brothers were supposed to be. His offense isn't refined yet, but he'll get there. The only weakness I see is that he doesn't look particularly long.

Any chance he declares?

[nuposse04]

The best big man prospect in college basketball is Mitch McGary. He is tough as nails, grabs every rebound, has spectacular hands, a great motor, he's athletic and smart. He's everything the Plumlee brothers were supposed to be. His offense isn't refined yet, but he'll get there. The only weakness I see is that he doesn't look particularly long.

Any chance he declares?

I think DX had his standing reach around 8'11.5. If he were a better vertical athlete I think that wouldn't be much of issue. The guy has some great fundamentals to his game outside his FT shooting. I don't think he could start for a contender...but he seems like the perfect big off the bench. The WT had something about him rethinking about going back next year. I think he'll end up declaring, lack of "sure thing" bigs this year should give him a boost...if he falls into the late 1st I'd love to try to get him.

[nate33]

The best big man prospect in college basketball is Mitch McGary. He is tough as nails, grabs every rebound, has spectacular hands, a great motor, he's athletic and smart. He's everything the Plumlee brothers were supposed to be. His offense isn't refined yet, but he'll get there. The only weakness I see is that he doesn't look particularly long.

Any chance he declares?

I think DX had his standing reach around 8'11.5. If he were a better vertical athlete I think that wouldn't be much of issue. The guy has some great fundamentals to his game outside his FT shooting. I don't think he could start for a contender...but he seems like the perfect big off the bench. The WT had something about him rethinking about going back next year. I think he'll end up declaring, lack of "sure thing" bigs this year should give him a boost...if he falls into the late 1st I'd love to try to get him.

Late 1st? Are you serious?

The dude is a freshman and has been absolutely KILLING it since joining the starting lineup. I like him better than Cody Zeller or Kelly Olynyk, that's for sure. I think he'll pan out to have a career much like Okafor. If he's on the board at #10, and Burke isn't there, I'd take him.

[nuposse04]

The best big man prospect in college basketball is Mitch McGary. He is tough as nails, grabs every rebound, has spectacular hands, a great motor, he's athletic and smart. He's everything the Plumlee brothers were supposed to be. His offense isn't refined yet, but he'll get there. The only weakness I see is that he doesn't look particularly long.

Any chance he declares?

I think DX had his standing reach around 8'11.5. If he were a better vertical athlete I think that wouldn't be much of issue. The guy has some great fundamentals to his game outside his FT shooting. I don't think he could start for a contender...but he seems like the perfect big off the bench. The WT had something about him rethinking about going back next year. I think he'll end up declaring, lack of "sure thing" bigs this year should give him a boost...if he falls into the late 1st I'd love to try to get him.

Late 1st? Are you serious?

The dude is a freshman and has been absolutely KILLING it since joining the starting lineup. I like him better than Cody Zeller or Kelly Olynyk, that's for sure. I think he'll pan out to have a career much like Okafor. If he's on the board at #10, and Burke isn't there, I'd take him.

Saying he may be a better pro than Zeller doesn't mean to much to me cause I don't think much of Zeller, but I see the intrigue. He seems like his floor is a lot more sturdy and higher than Olynyk and Zeller. Apparently DX has him at #9 in their 2014 mock....so maybe late 1st....not so much.

I don't think I'd take him before Len, Gobert and maybe Austin, mostly because I want our next Big we take to have a considerable ceiling. Mitch comes off as a very rich man's Nick Collison, will be an excellent role player at the next level. But he is 20, so I could be eating crow a couple years from now.

[nate33]

Good point about his age. I just noticed that. 20 is pretty old for a freshman, and he'll be 21 in June.

WTF? Did he get held back?

[theboomking]

Two guys I don't want are Gobert and Muhammed. Gobert is built like a twig and looks like a below the rim type athlete. Not a great combination.

Even watching highlights of Muhammed makes him look bad. He looks like a totally different player in college than in HS. Not in a good way. I don't know how a player that is 1 year away from being a professional athlete could have his body. It just shows a lack of dedication to being great. With that and his lack of providing anything outside of scoring, I would cross him off my list.

I don't think Trey Burke would be a bad pick, but don't think he will fall. If we wind up picking 10 or 11, I wouldn't mind Len or CJM. I'd love to see us buy a pick and add Adams if he is available in the teens.

[Wizardspride]

Good point about his age. I just noticed that. 20 is pretty old for a freshman, and he'll be 21 in June.

WTF? Did he get held back?

McGary repeated his junior year because his parents thought he needed the discipline.

[pancakes3]

Good point about his age. I just noticed that. 20 is pretty old for a freshman, and he'll be 21 in June.

WTF? Did he get held back?

According to WIki, yes. His parents shipped him off to boarding school to repeat 11th grade because they thought he needed the discipline. Potential red flag.

[stevemcqueen1]

The refs are not calling fouls on Syracuse. Officiating has been atrocious down the stretch. And Michigan's decision making has been bad, or else they'd have gone on a big run and pulled away given all of the opportunities they've had.

Hey look, they finally called a foul on Syracuse!

[Liverbird]

Hardaway Jr crumbling... Playing scared with consecutive bad decisions.

Money on the FT though.

Michigan just not handling the pressure well

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Refs blow a call with Syracuse down. Clear elbow and they call a foul on Michael Carter Williams.

Next series they reward a flop by Hardaway Jr.

Chicken stuff officiating.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

CJ Fair is having a strong game. He's a really decent NBA prospect.

Syracuse coming back.

[stevemcqueen1]

McGary is very raw offensively. He's got a unique set of strengths but his decision making has a ways to go. He's got to learn when to pass and when to try and score, when to wait and let the offense get set. He also doesn't really seem to have many scoring tools and Lord, he can't shoot FTs. But he does have impressive hands and handles for a big and he's clearly a special passer. He's got a great feel for the ball.

Such a gifted rebounder too. Surprisingly athletic. Great hands. HUGE motor.

With the great passing and the hustle and the defense and rebounding, he's got some Joakim Noah in him.

Burke has not impressed tonight...

[Liverbird]

Shades of Kansas

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Why is Triche trying to be the hero when CJ Fair needs to take that shot?

Either that or Southerland to shoot the three.

[stevemcqueen1]

Michigan is choking this game away at the FT line.

[Liverbird]

Whew....Hail to the Victors

The assist to a few very lucky bounces.