OT - NBC: The Warriors use of Elevator Screens

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Marc Jackson deserves a lot of credit for the way that Warriors team has played this season. Their off ball movement is great and they really maximize their strengths.

Didn't you get the memo? Coaches have an overrated impact on the game.

Since 3 players are used in the play, wouldn't it be easy for the defense to send a player to rotate ahead of time to the other side of the screen where the ball handler will emerge and cut him off?

It's the kind of play that might catch unprepared teams off guard in the regular season, but in a playoff series you'd think that opposing coaches would adjust to that pretty quickly.

If you watch in the video every player that runs into the double screen has a split second of "WTF" as they run into it. I don't think a whole lot of preparation will help because you don't know if they are running that play until it's too late, it's not telegraphed a whole lot.

[YogiStewart]

The execution of that set is just beautiful. A set play that used to maximize the ability of your players strengths on offense.

remember the ball movement happening in BC's first year?

i long for those days....

[carl_english]

We could use this to set up DD for long 2s.

[Brinbe]

Beautiful... Makes our offense even more putrid looking in comparison. Fire Casey.

[Olufsen]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quRwCAkaweM[/youtube]
this is how we do
Casey ball, ftw.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quRwCAkaweM[/youtube]
this is how we do
Casey ball, ftw.

lol aside from it being BLATANTLY obvious what they were doing, it still kinda worked haha

[DG88]

The execution of that set is just beautiful. A set play that used to maximize the ability of your players strengths on offense.

remember the ball movement happening in BC's first year?

i long for those days....

Who doesn't, it's funny because the way how that team was constructed should be the design of a winning team. A PG who can create his own shot and pass, a SG who can defend and can make a 3 point shot, a versatile SF who could pass, shoot and defend, an All Star PF, and a reliable C to man the paint. Even though we were in a weak East that team had the right formula for winning games. If instead of drafting Bargnani we drafted Gay then that team would have been even better and probably would have sustained their winning ways.

[The_Hater]

That's a neat play, but not sure if it's legal? Isn't that a moving screen?

There were a couple of moving screens in that series of clips but most of them looked very clean.

Now it's too bad the Raps don't have any quality 3 point shooters or they might be able to use a set like this.

[joeyt618]

The Raptors version of the Elevator Screen will probably end up looking like this:


In all seriousness, you really need 3-point shooters with a really quick release (which GS has in Thompson and Curry). If you take your time with the shot, 9/10, the two players setting the screen will end up being called for an offensive foul.

I can also see us doing a reverse elevator play, where instead of running in and out, someone like Gay or DD can run from out to in and receive the pass towards to key for a drive.

[Pchu]

Marc Jackson deserves a lot of credit for the way that Warriors team has played this season. Their off ball movement is great and they really maximize their strengths.

I think it's their defense that makes the difference this year. He got guys like David Lee to play hard on D, which is an accomplishment.

[TdotRap4Lyfe]

That was beautiful to look at *sniff* If only we had a coach who was smart enough to use our players more efficiently.

[FlutieX]

Let's say Casey switched up the offense to focus on threes as opposed to long twos and ran plays akin to this. Even with DD/Gay/Lowry/Ross and their mediocre to bad percentages would our offense become more efficient and simply do better?

It seems that even with a poor shooting team it makes sense to do things in a way that is proven to be more efficient. I'd rather see our boys shooting 4-5 threes a game each than 4-5 long twos. I cannot imagine all our shooters are statistically proven to be better scorers off long twos than 3pt shots. Definitely not all of them at least.

[HiMyNameIsTrey]

If my memory is correct we successfully did that play against OKC to free up Barbosa for a clutch 3. This was under Triano though!

Found it: http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/2011032 ... rs-thunder

Watch the highlights on the right side and its towards the end of the video

[FlutieX]

If my memory is correct we successfully did that play against OKC to free up Barbosa for a clutch 3. This was under Triano though!

Found it: http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/2011032 ... rs-thunder

Watch the highlights on the right side and its towards the end of the video

wtf you gonna do?

I wish we had Triano back with this team. Casey has so much more to work with and just **** the bed with it.

[bankshot11]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmGyZVplW0A[/youtube] They run this play allllll the time and it works once a month

[andyo]

It's a neat set but I'm not sure if we have the personnel that Golden State has in Klay Thompson and Curry to be as effective in that play. Pretty sure we run some variation of that play, the top of the key, mid-range curl for Ross or Demar.

[DG88]

Let's say Casey switched up the offense to focus on threes as opposed to long twos and ran plays akin to this. Even with DD/Gay/Lowry/Ross and their mediocre to bad percentages would our offense become more efficient and simply do better?

It seems that even with a poor shooting team it makes sense to do things in a way that is proven to be more efficient. I'd rather see our boys shooting 4-5 threes a game each than 4-5 long twos. I cannot imagine all our shooters are statistically proven to be better scorers off long twos than 3pt shots. Definitely not all of them at least.

Well when you design an offense you design it to maximize the abilities of your players. We have quite a few finishers on our team compared to 3 point shooters. So taking lot's of 3's probably isn't the best idea for how the team is currently constructed. Since we have a good amount of finishers on our team it's best to play an uptempo offense, attacking the paint either off the dribble or through cuts to the basket and focus on offensive rebounding. In halfcourt situations we should look to post up Jonas, Gay and DeRozan. It's a simple style but it's very effective considering the personnel.

[Undefeated]

The reason I said some of those play was illegal because the screener has to be planted stationary the whole time. You can't just slide over and "close the gap" as the defender is chasing down his man. Yes, they're screening an area which eliminates the chances of an offensive foul instead of headhunting, but the basic principles remains the same. It's no different than setting a down screen for a curl cut and in the last minute the screener decides to adjust his feet and he completely checks the defender. It happens so fast that it just looks like Curry is stepping through so it doesn't look like it's a moving screen.

[DG88]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmGyZVplW0A[/youtube] They run this play allllll the time and it works once a month

We run that play every once in a while but it only works when DeRozan's defender isn't paying attention and the opposing bigs are lifted to the free throw line.

[YogiStewart]

Let's say Casey switched up the offense to focus on threes as opposed to long twos and ran plays akin to this. Even with DD/Gay/Lowry/Ross and their mediocre to bad percentages would our offense become more efficient and simply do better?

It seems that even with a poor shooting team it makes sense to do things in a way that is proven to be more efficient. I'd rather see our boys shooting 4-5 threes a game each than 4-5 long twos. I cannot imagine all our shooters are statistically proven to be better scorers off long twos than 3pt shots. Definitely not all of them at least.

we don't need to do the elevator screen. but we need properly-executed plays.

you have two VERY mobile and athletic players starting at the 4 and 5. you have two athletic players at the 2 and 3. movement - and lots of it - should be the key to running this offense. and in-shape Gay and Lowry are a must.