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Re: 2013 Draft Prospects and NCAA Tourney Talk 2.0 

Post#1061 » by catch20two » Tue Apr 9, 2013 4:58 pm

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BrotherDave wrote:So what you're saying is that w/o Burke, McGary, Hardaway Jr, and GRIII are all magically no longer NBA caliber?

(I'm kind of going straw man on you, forgive me)

No. What I'm saying is that none of them really showed up when they needed to tonight in order for Michigan to win.

Maybe Burke should have gotten them involved instead of dribbling away possessions?

It's obvious that you don't like Burke but I won't debate it anymore because you're entitled to your opinion. I think the Chris Paul comparison got you a little rowd' up.
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Re: 2013 Draft Prospects and NCAA Tourney Talk 2.0 

Post#1062 » by Eoghan » Tue Apr 9, 2013 5:05 pm

I actually hate Chris Paul, I really don't care about Burke either way honestly. I'm just trying to inject a little objectivity into the argument by playing devil's advocate.

I think Burke will be something like a rich man's DJ Augustine or a Mike Conley type of point. Good player, starter worthy, but not a franchise player by most standards. I don't even think he's on Kemba's level, and Kemba needs to make big strides in the facilitating department.
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Re: 2013 Draft Prospects and NCAA Tourney Talk 2.0 

Post#1063 » by catch20two » Tue Apr 9, 2013 5:17 pm

BrotherDave wrote:I actually hate Chris Paul, I really don't care about Burke either way honestly. I'm just trying to inject a little objectivity into the argument by playing devil's advocate.

I think Burke will be something like a rich man's DJ Augustine or a Mike Conley type of point. Good player, starter worthy, but not a franchise player by most standards. I don't even think he's on Kemba's level, and Kemba needs to make big strides in the facilitating department.

Everything you've said about Burke from the rich man's D.J. Augustin or a Mike Conley type to him only becoming a good player, starter worthy, but not a franchise player by most standards in the NBA I agree on but distributing the ball is not going to be a problem for him. He was 12th in the nation in assist and 1st in the Big Ten with a decent to turnover ratio.
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Re: 2013 Draft Prospects and NCAA Tourney Talk 2.0 

Post#1064 » by fatlever » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:44 pm

its official, mclemore and oladipo have declared.
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Re: 2013 Draft Prospects and NCAA Tourney Talk 2.0 

Post#1065 » by Nanogeek » Tue Apr 9, 2013 10:02 pm

Chad Ford at ESPN posted a mock draft. Its an Insider article so I can't post the whole draft but I'll post the first pick analysis (which just happens to be most relevant to this board :D ). Ford has Bobcats taking Noel first.

Analysis: The Bobcats need help everywhere. With the possible exception of small forward (where last year's No. 2 pick Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is holding down the fort), Charlotte doesn't really have an A-list player on its roster. The Bobcats already have a young, athletic project in Bismack Biyombo, but every scout feels that Noel has much more potential than Biyombo and most GMs feel Noel has the most upside of any player in the draft. Noel's ACL injury is an obvious red flag, but even that could turn into a blessing. If the Bobcats have to sit Noel for much of the season, they'll likely finish with the best chance of winning the lottery in 2014. With Andrew Wiggins and a stellar high school class of 2014 coming up, it might be worth the wait.


http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft201 ... mock-draft
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Re: 2013 Draft Prospects and NCAA Tourney Talk 2.0 

Post#1066 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Apr 9, 2013 11:54 pm

Nanogeek wrote:Chad Ford at ESPN posted a mock draft. Its an Insider article so I can't post the whole draft but I'll post the first pick analysis (which just happens to be most relevant to this board :D ). Ford has Bobcats taking Noel first.

Analysis: The Bobcats need help everywhere. With the possible exception of small forward (where last year's No. 2 pick Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is holding down the fort), Charlotte doesn't really have an A-list player on its roster. The Bobcats already have a young, athletic project in Bismack Biyombo, but every scout feels that Noel has much more potential than Biyombo and most GMs feel Noel has the most upside of any player in the draft. Noel's ACL injury is an obvious red flag, but even that could turn into a blessing. If the Bobcats have to sit Noel for much of the season, they'll likely finish with the best chance of winning the lottery in 2014. With Andrew Wiggins and a stellar high school class of 2014 coming up, it might be worth the wait.


http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft201 ... mock-draft


Pretty sure Walker has the fort held down at PG as well.
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Re: 2013 Draft Prospects and NCAA Tourney Talk 2.0 

Post#1067 » by BigSlam » Tue Apr 9, 2013 11:56 pm

Tourney done for another year. Thread being locked.

Draft prospect talk can continue here:

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1244033



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