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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#41 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:06 pm

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SupremeHustle wrote:Burke is overrated. Wouldn't take the kid higher than 17-ish. Surprised at how many seem to like him.


I think part of it is obviously position related, the other being he doesn't look like he's got a lot of holes offensively. Range on his jumper, good vision and handle, nice quickness. I don't think he'll ever sniff an All-Star game, but in the middle of the lotto in this terrible draft you could do worse.


Okay. I think that's pretty fair.

I think I read a post in a different thread saying they'd give up anyone on the Bucks for him, and that's just silly in my opinion.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#42 » by JimmyTheKid » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:11 pm

Buckrageous wrote:I love it. They need to draft GRIII and then sit him on the bench behind below average players for about a year and a half. Then shrewdly deal him at the deadline for a backup guard with an expiring contract. If they play it right, they could get a deep bench journeyman big to go along with that.

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I have no doubt this is what would happen... Without fail, year after year... so f***ing sickening...

Ersan ready for major minutes... sign Gooden
Harris ready for major minutes... sign Daniels
Sanders ready for major minutes... trade for Dalembert

And on... and on... and on...
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#43 » by Nebula1 » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:12 pm

I'd be good with Robinson. I'm obviously jealous of the top teams, but lulz at Muhammad to Sacto.

This would be an ideal year for the Bucks to pick up another late 1st (Goodwin).
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#44 » by ComeBackRay34 » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:13 pm

Would definitely like drafting Puppy Dog at our spot. Wouldn't mind trading up for Burke as well. Actually really like Dieng. If he fell to the 25-30, I wish we would buy/trade for a late-first to grab him. He would be a great guy off the bench to anchor the D when Sanders comes out. Plus, we have developed 2 elite shot-blockers in the past 5 years. Dieng has the tools to be another one.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#45 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:17 pm

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Buckrageous wrote:I love it. They need to draft GRIII and then sit him on the bench behind below average players for about a year and a half. Then shrewdly deal him at the deadline for a backup guard with an expiring contract. If they play it right, they could get a deep bench journeyman big to go along with that.

Building through the draft the Bucks way


I have no doubt this is what would happen... Without fail, year after year... so f***ing sickening...

Ersan ready for major minutes... sign Gooden
Harris ready for major minutes... sign Daniels
Sanders ready for major minutes... trade for Dalembert

And on... and on... and on...


Honestly, though, what kind of damage was really done? Ersan is here on a bargain of a deal and playing well. Sanders is having a DPOY season. Harris is somewhere else but we've got Ersan and Henson.

So...who cares?
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#46 » by EastSideBucksFan » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:29 pm

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Sam Cassell Sr. could be coaching Glenn Robinson III next year.

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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#47 » by fansinceforever » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:35 pm

I would love this pick but as stated earlier Giannis isn't even on this list. We're so early in the game I just see GRIII, Giannis and just about everyone else I want rising by draft time.

Would be a good pick to heal some of the Tobias pain.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#48 » by JimmyTheKid » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:37 pm

DrugBust wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Buckrageous wrote:I love it. They need to draft GRIII and then sit him on the bench behind below average players for about a year and a half. Then shrewdly deal him at the deadline for a backup guard with an expiring contract. If they play it right, they could get a deep bench journeyman big to go along with that.

Building through the draft the Bucks way


I have no doubt this is what would happen... Without fail, year after year... so f***ing sickening...

Ersan ready for major minutes... sign Gooden
Harris ready for major minutes... sign Daniels
Sanders ready for major minutes... trade for Dalembert

And on... and on... and on...



Honestly, though, what kind of damage was really done? Ersan is here on a bargain of a deal and playing well. Sanders is having a DPOY season. Harris is somewhere else but we've got Ersan and Henson.

So...who cares?


Really?

I prefer to hold onto 20-year-old-with-upside-at-a-weak-position prospects rather than trading them for vet FA's to clinch the 8th seed. Too bad Marquis Daniels was preventing Tobias Harris from getting minutes. Our idiot FO might have thought twice about trading for an average veteran. I also prefer to spend money wisely instead of lighting it on fire. (see Drew Gooden) And it was pure dumb luck that Henson was still available after worsening our draft position to acquire Dalembert (to be our starting center, no less).
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#49 » by Bucksfan28 » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:38 pm

steger_3434 wrote:It's probably best we did make the playoffs this year. Our luck we finish 9th and end up winning another lottery with basically no game changers or clear cut superstars.


I haven't read through the three pages after this post so I don't know if someone else already brought it up.. But in what world are Deron Williams and CP3 not game changers?
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#50 » by steger_3434 » Tue Apr 9, 2013 8:45 pm

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steger_3434 wrote:It's probably best we did make the playoffs this year. Our luck we finish 9th and end up winning another lottery with basically no game changers or clear cut superstars.


I haven't read through the three pages after this post so I don't know if someone else already brought it up.. But in what world are Deron Williams and CP3 not game changers?


At the time of the lottery Paul and Williams weren't clear cut superstars. Every draft usually has one guy that ends up being great, but we tend to win drafts where that guy isn't painfully obvious. There wasn't a Lebron or Durante or Howard in that draft.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#51 » by JimmyTheKid » Tue Apr 9, 2013 9:18 pm

steger_3434 wrote:At the time of the lottery Paul and Williams weren't clear cut superstars. Every draft usually has one guy that ends up being great, but we tend to win drafts where that guy isn't painfully obvious. There wasn't a Lebron or Durante or Howard in that draft.


Exactly right. Which is why posts like this:

bullox wrote:If Bennett falls to 9 and the Bucks don't move up to get him, they might really regret it. So much better than Robinson and it's not even close.


are so funny to me.

Bennett may very well be better than GRIII. He may even turn out to be a lot better than GRIII. But to claim that as fact right now is ludicrous. Nobody knows how any of these guys will turn out. So much depends on where they're drafted and how they develop. Going into this college basketball season, Cody Zeller was the can't miss, consensus #1 overall pick. A few months later, he's barely a lottery pick. And I wouldn't want anything to do with him at #15 if he fell to the Bucks. Its a complete crapshoot.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#52 » by Run-MKE 311 » Tue Apr 9, 2013 9:29 pm

I'll keep things simple, no.

I have no confidence in anyone around the middle of this draft.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#53 » by bullox » Tue Apr 9, 2013 10:39 pm

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Bennett may very well be better than GRIII. He may even turn out to be a lot better than GRIII. But to claim that as fact right now is ludicrous.


I said it based on what the players are right now.

The development I've seen from Bennett from last year as a senior at Findlay Prep (five miles down the road from me) to this year at UNLV is the kind of leap you are looking for in a high ceiling prospect. Bennett was the clear leader of his team and put up solid efficiency numbers without the benefit of a point guard on his team. Robinson did improve this year as well, but he had the benefit of a consensus player of the year as his PG to take the pressure off him, not to mention McGary and Hardaway Jr.

Bennett is an alpha type who will be a leader of his team. I don't see that at all with Robinson. Beta players can be solid role players but they won't lead a team. If this Bucks team cleans house in the backcourt like many here hope, they will need a leader who can make a difference on the offensive end.

If you want to call my opinion ludicrous, that's fine. I'm content to see how things turn out down the road. If I need to eat crow, so be it. I think having an opinion one way or the other is more interesting than "it's a crapshoot." No kidding.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#54 » by machu46 » Tue Apr 9, 2013 10:49 pm

steger_3434 wrote:
Bucksfan28 wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:It's probably best we did make the playoffs this year. Our luck we finish 9th and end up winning another lottery with basically no game changers or clear cut superstars.


I haven't read through the three pages after this post so I don't know if someone else already brought it up.. But in what world are Deron Williams and CP3 not game changers?


At the time of the lottery Paul and Williams weren't clear cut superstars. Every draft usually has one guy that ends up being great, but we tend to win drafts where that guy isn't painfully obvious. There wasn't a Lebron or Durante or Howard in that draft.


To be fair, I specifically remember reading scouting reports of Chris Paul that said he might be the best PG prospect to enter the draft since Jason Kidd, and Deron Williams just dominated in workouts with teams.

Edit: Having said that, while a lot of people believed CP3 was the best player in the draft, Milwaukee received a lot of praise for taking Bogut, who was pegged as a perfect fit to the team.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#55 » by emunney » Tue Apr 9, 2013 11:28 pm

I'm curious if any of you guys think Burke is as good a prospect as CP was.

Burke is a nice player, but imo is not in the same class of prospect as CP. If CP went #1, the only reason people would have batted an eye is because he's a PG.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#56 » by emunney » Tue Apr 9, 2013 11:35 pm

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steger_3434 wrote:At the time of the lottery Paul and Williams weren't clear cut superstars. Every draft usually has one guy that ends up being great, but we tend to win drafts where that guy isn't painfully obvious. There wasn't a Lebron or Durante or Howard in that draft.


Exactly right. Which is why posts like this:

bullox wrote:If Bennett falls to 9 and the Bucks don't move up to get him, they might really regret it. So much better than Robinson and it's not even close.


are so funny to me.

Bennett may very well be better than GRIII. He may even turn out to be a lot better than GRIII. But to claim that as fact right now is ludicrous. Nobody knows how any of these guys will turn out. So much depends on where they're drafted and how they develop. Going into this college basketball season, Cody Zeller was the can't miss, consensus #1 overall pick. A few months later, he's barely a lottery pick. And I wouldn't want anything to do with him at #15 if he fell to the Bucks. Its a complete crapshoot.


We all have our favorites, and bullox has been very consistent with Bennett. He's convinced he's the real deal, so I don't really see how it's strange that he'd want us to go get him. He should be unconvinced because everybody doesn't agree with him? **** that noise.

If you end up paying 9th overall type prices for a guy you're convinced is a top 3 talent, yeah, it follows pretty easily that you should regret not doing that.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#57 » by blazza18 » Tue Apr 9, 2013 11:40 pm

Would be cool to keep it in the family. Whoever we draft wont play much anyway.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#58 » by Aaron It Out » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:40 am

1. Draft Robinson III
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#59 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:12 am

I'd like this pick. I don't see a lot of his dad in him. I think little dog has better athleticism and can be a better all around player IF he can develop an offensive game. I also know that Tobias Harris is the flavor of the month, but to be honest, I like Robinson better as a SF of the future for the Bucks. He just seems to have a classic SF body and fluid motion.

The guy I don't want to go near is Little Hardaway. Reminds me somewhat of Austin Rivers. Just a real chucker.
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Re: Ford Mock #1 - Robinson III 

Post#60 » by jr lucosa » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:25 am

paulpressey25 wrote:The guy I don't want to go near is Little Hardaway. Reminds me somewhat of Austin Rivers. Just a real chucker.


Yeah I agree, not just a chucker but one who struggled to be efficient in college without showing any other standout skills. 15 minutes a game player is his peak IMO.

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