WTF? Jarvis Jones 4.9/Manti 4.8

[LAKESHOW]

Polamalu is pretty good

You need to seriously stop drinking the HATERade

[nybluemeadow]

USC guys that I can think of off the top of my head are: Clay Matthews, Brian Cushing, Carson Palmer, Sam Baker, Ryan Kalil, Matt Kalil, Tyron Smith, Steve Smith, Terrell Thomas, Reggie Bush, Troy Polamalu. I'm sure I missed a lot of others who are still playing.

USC may have a lot of players who end up being high draft picks and end up being busts or career backups, but I don't see how that's any worse than the hordes of "major" NCAA football programs who only produce an NFL starting caliber or Pro Bowl caliber player once every decade. (I can't even believe that as an Oregon fan, I'm defending USC lol).

LOL Steve Smith is flat out awful. I hope you mean Utah's Steve Smith, because USC's Steve Smith is not even a real football player

USC is one of the worst places that produces WR, and as for everybody else is just average to who cares.

LAKESHOW and kdawg32086 are smoking that brain killing rocks

[kdawg32086]

USC guys that I can think of off the top of my head are: Clay Matthews, Brian Cushing, Carson Palmer, Sam Baker, Ryan Kalil, Matt Kalil, Tyron Smith, Steve Smith, Terrell Thomas, Reggie Bush, Troy Polamalu. I'm sure I missed a lot of others who are still playing.

USC may have a lot of players who end up being high draft picks and end up being busts or career backups, but I don't see how that's any worse than the hordes of "major" NCAA football programs who only produce an NFL starting caliber or Pro Bowl caliber player once every decade. (I can't even believe that as an Oregon fan, I'm defending USC lol).

LOL Steve Smith is flat out awful. I hope you mean Utah's Steve Smith, because USC's Steve Smith is not even a real football player

USC is one of the worst places that produces WR, and as for everybody else is just average to who cares.

LAKESHOW and kdawg32086 are smoking that brain killing rocks

I would really love to hear your explanation of how me being able to name current NFL players who went to USC means I'm smoking brain-killing rocks...

[LAKESHOW]

Why must the great one, drop knowledge and waste brainpower, with an individual with only 7 posts to his name...

[loscaliboss]

Jarvis Jones 4.9 (outdoor track)
JJ Watt 4.8 (indoor track)
Terrell Suggs 4.9 (indoor track)
Kevin Greene 4.9 (outdoor track)
Elvis Dumervil 4.7 (indoor track)

Not really a big deal. if you can get after the QB, then you can get after the QB. you don't need speed to be an elite pass rusher, Simon Rice and Jevon Kearse are 4.4 guys, but JJ Watt, Suggs, and Kevin Greene back in the day did fine at raking up sacks.

the only time that 40 times should be taken seriously is with CB, everybody else, it doesn't seem to matter. just look at WRs, Steve Largent, Wes Welker, and Jerry Rice all had horrible 40 times, but are great WRs

[loscaliboss]

USC guys that I can think of off the top of my head are: Clay Matthews, Brian Cushing, Carson Palmer, Sam Baker, Ryan Kalil, Matt Kalil, Tyron Smith, Steve Smith, Terrell Thomas, Reggie Bush, Troy Polamalu. I'm sure I missed a lot of others who are still playing.

USC may have a lot of players who end up being high draft picks and end up being busts or career backups, but I don't see how that's any worse than the hordes of "major" NCAA football programs who only produce an NFL starting caliber or Pro Bowl caliber player once every decade. (I can't even believe that as an Oregon fan, I'm defending USC lol).

UCS (along with UCLA) don't do a good job at producing NFL players like some other school. only Polamalu stands out. but USC is a great program, maybe even the best, but it is not uncommon for lesser programs to end up producing more elite NFL talent, just look at Cal, just an average program, but they are currently producing more stars and MVP candidates on the next level than USC.

Nnamdi Asomugha
Thomas DeCoud
Scott Fujita
Tony Gonzalez
DeSean Jackson
Marshawn Lynch
Aaron Rodgers
Ryan Longwell

same goes for Alabama, Alabama is a great program but only has one notable elite NFL player (Julio Jones) but lesser programs like Georgia, Missouri, and Tennessee, each have several notable elite players currently in the NFL.

[gswhoops]

Jarvis Jones 4.9 (outdoor track)
JJ Watt 4.8 (indoor track)
Terrell Suggs 4.9 (indoor track)
Kevin Greene 4.9 (outdoor track)
Elvis Dumervil 4.7 (indoor track)

Not really a big deal. if you can get after the QB, then you can get after the QB. you don't need speed to be an elite pass rusher, Simon Rice and Jevon Kearse are 4.4 guys, but JJ Watt, Suggs, and Kevin Greene back in the day did fine at raking up sacks.

the only time that 40 times should be taken seriously is with CB, everybody else, it doesn't seem to matter. just look at WRs, Steve Largent, Wes Welker, and Jerry Rice all had horrible 40 times, but are great WRs

All those guys are at least 20lbs. heavier than Jones though...JJ Watt has over 40lbs. on JJ and still managed a faster 40. This year we even saw some offensive line guys running better times.

Jones is a good football player but he is not a premier athlete, at least not by NFL standards.

[gswhoops]

And as far as USC goes for getting prospects in the NFL...they do as well or better than the other huge NCAAF programs. Yeah they produce a lot of busts but they also produce a lot of good to great players. It's just a function of having a lot of guys that go through the system - the law of averages wins out. Some end up being good or even great, but most are average or depth guys.

[orlandomanic]

Jarvis Jones 4.9 (outdoor track)
JJ Watt 4.8 (indoor track)
Terrell Suggs 4.9 (indoor track)
Kevin Greene 4.9 (outdoor track)
Elvis Dumervil 4.7 (indoor track)

Not really a big deal. if you can get after the QB, then you can get after the QB. you don't need speed to be an elite pass rusher, Simon Rice and Jevon Kearse are 4.4 guys, but JJ Watt, Suggs, and Kevin Greene back in the day did fine at raking up sacks.

the only time that 40 times should be taken seriously is with CB, everybody else, it doesn't seem to matter. just look at WRs, Steve Largent, Wes Welker, and Jerry Rice all had horrible 40 times, but are great WRs

All those guys are at least 20lbs. heavier than Jones though...JJ Watt has over 40lbs. on JJ and still managed a faster 40. This year we even saw some offensive line guys running better times.

Jones is a good football player but he is not a premier athlete, at least not by NFL standards.

This is just stupid. Kevin Greene's playing weight in his prime was 245lbs. and Suggs' weight coming out of college was 250lbs.

i don't know what you are smoking if you think Greene and Suggs are 20lbs heavier coming out of college

http://www.thesundevils.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/suggs_terrell00.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/draft/news/2003/02/09/mock_draft/