Does Gallo Injury Change FO Moves?

[pickIBL]

Before the Gallo Injury I expected Iggy to opt out and be inked to a long term deal. I expected Mozgov and Brewer to be gone and replaced by rookie draft picks.

With this injury and the new CBA... I'm not so sure that happens now. The talk is that the heat won't stay together long term. We saw the deal OKC did shipping out Harden. In this current climiate could the FO decide to be sellers and focus on the summer of 2014? If Gallo is out most of next year can you blame them?

Say they do something like move McGee for Marion (expiring). They let Iggy opt out and not re-sign (or he just picks up his option for one more year).

The Jazz need a solid PG for next year so you move Andre Miller, future first pick, Quincy Miller, and Anthony Randolph for Marvin Williams Jr & rights to Ante Tomic.

Summer 2014
Gallinari 10.1 million
Chandler 6.7 million
Tomic 4 million
Koufos 3 million
Lawson 11.6 million
Fournier 1.5 million
Faried 2.3 million
Hamilton 2.2 million
2013 1st rounder 1 million
Total 42.4 million

Considering where the salary cap could be... this is a lot of money for the Nuggets to be players.

http://www.nba.com/2012/news/11/13/stern-nba-revenue.ap/index.html

Two weeks ago David Stern mentioned that he expects NBA revenue to increase to $5b for the year that ends on 6/30/13.
This would be approximately a 20% increase in revenue over the year that ended on 6/30/12.
If this turns out to be true, there are significant ramifications that this would have for the league, their franchises and the Salary Cap/Luxury Tax thresholds.

The Salary Cap would increase from $58.04m to $69.65m and the Luxury Tax threshold would increase from $70.3m to $84.4m.

Credit- http://samcelt.forumotion.net/t4174-201 ... luxury-tax

[The Rebel]

So wait you want to trade a proven good PG, a 1st round pick, our recent 2nd round pick that has done well in the dleague, and Randolph for an average overpaid SF and the rights to a 26 year old Euro player that is putting up 11.8 and 6.2 in the euro league this year. What's next you want to trade Faried, Gallo, and a 1st or two for Jonas Valanciunas, or does JV just have too much upside? I know you love the Euro prospects, but even you must realize that is ridiculously overpaying for a Euro center already in his prime.

the Nuggets are not trading perfectly good assets for a 26 year old euro center that may or may not even make it to the NBA. At most even if they liked him they could probably get his rights for a future 2nd at this point, the Jazz have only held his rights for about 5 years now.

[pickIBL]

So wait you want to trade a proven good PG, a 1st round pick, our recent 2nd round pick that has done well in the dleague, and Randolph for an average overpaid SF and the rights to a 26 year old Euro player that is putting up 11.8 and 6.2 in the euro league this year.

That talent you are refering to overseas is an offensively polished 7'2 center who is currently the top candidate to be EuroLeague MVP. Slower pace and 40 minutes a night mean lower numbers... you know that. You forgot to mention just how efficiently he's scoring btw. And yes I'm talking about paying him what Ian mahinmi makes.

That means the Centers on the roster would make 7 million combined... not bad at all. The trade was not designed to improve the nuggets next year but maximize capspace. Lebron James is a championship chaser... we already know that. Denver might be the best team with the money to sign him. Basically all we gotta do is dump McGee and we are in the running.

More importantly... how much Barcelona basketball have you actually watched? A big part of that Jazz trade is freeing up salary. We move some DPs... yes... but we don't pay them either. Definitely clears enough room for James.

[The Rebel]

So wait you want to trade a proven good PG, a 1st round pick, our recent 2nd round pick that has done well in the dleague, and Randolph for an average overpaid SF and the rights to a 26 year old Euro player that is putting up 11.8 and 6.2 in the euro league this year.

That talent you are refering to overseas is an offensively polished 7'2 center who is currently the top candidate to be EuroLeague MVP. Slower pace and 40 minutes a night mean lower numbers... you know that. You forgot to mention just how efficiently he's scoring btw. And yes I'm talking about paying him what Ian mahinmi makes.

That means the Centers on the roster would make 7 million combined... not bad at all. The trade was not designed to improve the nuggets next year but maximize capspace. Lebron James is a championship chaser... we already know that. Denver might be the best team with the money to sign him. Basically all we gotta do is dump McGee and we are in the running.

More importantly... how much Barcelona basketball have you actually watched? A big part of that Jazz trade is freeing up salary. We move some DPs... yes... but we don't pay them either. Definitely clears enough room for James.

So now the nuggets are going to get Lebron James? Where do you get your smoke, if I decide to start smoking again I need to know where the best stuff is.

You also forgot to mention that the Jazz reportedly tried to bring him over, and have been hinting at the fact they do not believe he is ever coming over, not to mention he just resigned a deal paying $4 million net with a $7 million buyout. In other words he is not coming to the US anytime soon, and everybody but you seems to have accepted that fact, not every player wants to come to the NBA and take what would amount to a paycut to be a role player.

[pickIBL]

oh Rebel... one thing I know for sure is that you are not in Lebron James head... because I surely am not. I know at some point he will have to jump ship in Miami. That I am confident in. So if we have cap space to get him that makes us what one in 5 or one in 10 that will have the money to pay him?? Then he has to evaluate where he can best win titles. I have no idea what he will end up doing. But I am confident he'll switch teams again.

[pickIBL]

You also forgot to mention that the Jazz reportedly tried to bring him over, and have been hinting at the fact they do not believe he is ever coming over, not to mention he just resigned a deal paying $4 million net with a $7 million buyout.

His last contract was last summer when his value was very low. The Jazz were not interested in him at all. And the terms of that contract were not released. Where is your official link to his contract?

[nugzin2040]

If I was going to make a deal with the Jazz, I'd want Alec Burks over Marvin Williams. Not sure if I'd want to trade Andre Miller tho.

And Denver is NOT getting LeBron James even if he decides to go elsewhere.

[The Rebel]

You also forgot to mention that the Jazz reportedly tried to bring him over, and have been hinting at the fact they do not believe he is ever coming over, not to mention he just resigned a deal paying $4 million net with a $7 million buyout.

His last contract was last summer when his value was very low. The Jazz were not interested in him at all. And the terms of that contract were not released. Where is your official link to his contract?

http://www.utahjazz360.com/j-r-stewart/ ... al-madrid/
That is as close as you are going to get and you know it as contract details are not usually placed on the internet, especially when the guy has shown no interest in coming to the US over the last couple of years.

Try reading this maybe it will help you, Real Madrid has a $7 million buyout, also do an internet search, the guy had the chance to come over and for years the Jazz tried to get him over here, until last year when he signed a nice big deal preventing him from coming to the US.

[The Rebel]

oh Rebel... one thing I know for sure is that you are not in Lebron James head... because I surely am not. I know at some point he will have to jump ship in Miami. That I am confident in. So if we have cap space to get him that makes us what one in 5 or one in 10 that will have the money to pay him?? Then he has to evaluate where he can best win titles. I have no idea what he will end up doing. But I am confident he'll switch teams again.

Jumping ship from Cleveland to Miami to play with 2 superstars is very different from jumping ship to a team in Denver with no all stars, you are delusional if you think the Nuggets have the slightest chance in convincing Lebron to come play with that team.

[pickIBL]

so where exactly is your link? or where you making up numbers?


You are delusional if you think you are in Lebron's head at all. I have absolutely no idea what he is going to do. I don't think he knows what he is going to do. He got his championship and he also has people saying he needed other "superstars" to do it. So does he find some other team loaded with talent but no "superstars"? IDK it is not impossible. Is it realistic? I don't even think Lebron knows what is for lunch today.

[torotoe]

Crazy idea. How about Gallo, Hamilton, Koufos, #26 for Kevin Love?

[Powder Blue]

PickIBL....

Is there any foreign player you have advocated for the Nuggets to acquire that has come to the NBA and produced? Why are you so passionate about tearing down a 54+ winning Nuggets team and rebuilding it with foreign players. Why aren't you slurping Giannis Adetokunbo?

http://www.roundballminingcompany.com/2 ... the-draft/

Lebron James, clear cap space and talent to sign...Lebron James. You want to tear apart this team, build it with players like Sonny Weems, Ante Tomic and then make a run at a guy better than the last start that left Denver. The only american player you advocate is King James...imagine that.

[pickIBL]

PickIBL....
Is there any foreign player you have advocated for the Nuggets to acquire that has come to the NBA and produced?

Yes. There are also domestic players I've backed that have produced. There are also prospects that I was wrong about.

Why are you so passionate about tearing down a 54+ winning Nuggets team and rebuilding it with foreign players.

I'm not. A foreign player went down for the rest of this year and most of next year. That is what tore down this team. I'm simply suggesting we shop McGee and Andre Miller. McGee doesn't command doubles and Andre is disgruntled and getting old. Move McGee for a domestic player that comes off the books. Whatever.

Why aren't you slurping Giannis Adetokunbo?

Because I actually watch basketball. I'm slurping Sergey Karasev who will be at the Nike Hoops Summit. And if you saw my NBA mock you'd know I'm not showing tons of love to the overseas guys.

My top 5 BPA are...
1. Marcus Smart
2. Victor Oladipo
3. Ben McLemore
4 Nerlens Noel
5. Otto Porter

No Euros there.

And Giannis isn't near the top. I'd much rather the Nuggets snag Karasev or Lucas Nogueira if we go international.

[Powder Blue]

I don't mean to pick on you pickIBL but you always seem to come out of left field wanting the Nuggets to drop talent for international players. Other than rookie additions I'm advocating the Nuggets improve from within the NBA ranks...as they and most other teams usually do.

Honestly I don't concern myself much with the NBA draft, the Nuggets don't pick high enough to speculate who the additions will be let alone if Karl will play them.

People kill Dre Miller on her but there's no such thing as a perfect backup PG, they all have weaknesses, hence the role as a backup. Before I'd advocate shopping McGee I'd like to see what he would do with 25-30 min a night.

[Powder Blue]

Crazy idea. How about Gallo, Hamilton, Koufos, #26 for Kevin Love?

Doubt Minny would take that but I wouldn't be upset with it...

[pickIBL]

I don't mean to pick on you pickIBL but you always seem to come out of left field wanting the Nuggets to drop talent for international players.

Not true. I advocated giving up contracts that would get in the way of cap flexibility (such as a max contract FA) for a EuroLeague MVP caliber 7'2 skilled center who has an actual post game & can step out and hit a jumper. Something the Nuggets seriously lack... you know... a weakness. And I advocate we pay him Ian Mahinmi money. Well ask me what I'd give up for the rights to Mirotic... you might get me there. Quincy Miller... yea I put him in.

Honestly I don't concern myself much with the NBA draft, the Nuggets don't pick high enough to speculate who the additions will be let alone if Karl will play them.

Ham isn't playing. But... Fournier 20, Faried 22, Lawson 18 via trade. You really ought to pay attention.

People kill Dre Miller on her but there's no such thing as a perfect backup PG, they all have weaknesses, hence the role as a backup.

I'd rather someone younger that won't ruffle feathers and is a bit faster (a decent outside jumper would be great too). Maynor would be fine. He's American right? Myck Kabongo declared... maybe Kabongo and Fournier can handle it.

Before I'd advocate shopping McGee I'd like to see what he would do with 25-30 min a night.

Well he has asthma so that might factor in how much he plays too. We paid him too much but he does have value around the league.

[Powder Blue]

When I say I don't pay attention to the draft I mean I don't scout talent that the Nuggets should pick in the high 20's and I certainly don't make my own mock drafts. Once the Nuggets pick a player I'll research them but I have better things to do with my time than scout players.....I'll let the guys that get paid do that.

There was a little buzz about Lawson being picked and Faried was on the radar because he played in Denver but no one saw the Fournier pick coming.

Cap flexibility for what? Should the Nuggets just hoard cap space? Lebron in 2014? When your Euroleague MVP or Sonny Weems play some meaningful NBA minutes feel free to rub it in my face.

[pickIBL]

Lots of people watch games from all over the world on the internet these days. It is cheap and easy to get.

Weems will likely be back in the NBA. Tomic... who knows. 35 to 50% chance.

[pickIBL]

Going out, Andre Miller, McGee, Nuggets 1st 2013, Quincy Miller

Coming in, Brandon Roy (exp/waive), Luke Ridnour (exp), Dante Cunningham (exp), Rights to Norel (7'0 footer), Min 1st round pick 2013

Another trade idea to get the books in order next year with Gallo down. The Wolves could really use what McGee can do at the 5... they are bad drafters and this is a weak draft.

Maybe someone good falls to us with their pick... or we can figure out a way to trade up just a bit higher for Oladipo... maybe porter falls.