What Up Doe's Realistic Offseason Plan

What Up Doe · Post #1 » by **What Up Doe** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:41 am

Draft Oladipo with the #7 Pick. (Shabazz won't get past N.O)
Let Calderon,Bynum,Maxiell,Villanueva walk.
Sign Andre Igoudala, Jarret Jack and Carl Landry.
Fire Frank and hire Avery Johnson.

2013 Lineup

Drummond/Slava
Monroe/Landry
Igoudala/Middleton
Oladipo/English
Knight/Jack

Jodi · Post #2 » by **Jodi** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:13 am

Charlie V isn't a free agent...Are you sure you want to waste our 7th pick on Oladipo?..If Oladipo is the BPA at 7, I would rather trade our pick for Eric Gordon...

wallacex2jc · Post #3 » by **wallacex2jc** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:52 am

Detroit trades:
Greg Monroe
Brandon Knight
Rodney Stuckey

OKC trades:
Russell Westbrook
Kendrick Perkins
Jeremy Lamb

We get a star who will play his butt off every night (questionable play-making skills, but it's okay). He's also a great defender, a great rebounder, not afraid to fight for his team. We'll also absorb one of their toxic contract in Perkins (7-8M for 3 yrs). He'll be a center backing Dre'. Jeremy Lamb never really played for them this season, so I don't think it's too hard to get him as well. Meanwhile in OKC, they'll get a tireless worker in Knight, who should coexist with Durant better than Westbrook. Ibaka and Monroe would be a good rebounding tandem, but Moose would be a defensive liability. They would also deepen by having Stuckey coming off the bench along with Martin (assuming he sign with less money).

Draft Oladipo,

Resign Calderon and Bynum with a two year deal, with the second year partially guaranteed. Sign a couple of veterans for a one year rental (Brand/Kaman/Dahntay Jones/Marquis Daniels/Ben Wallace/Chauncey Billups/etc.). Hold on to our caps until the end of next season (23M of cap space), then I would go after Derrick Favors and Evan Turner.

At the start of 2013 season:
Westbrook/Calderon or Bynum
Oladipo/Lamb
Jerebko/Marquis Daniels
Brand/Charlie V
Drummond/Perkins

This should get us to the playoffs

At the start of 2014 season:
Westbrook/Bynum
Oladipo/Lamb
Turner/Jerebko/Middleton
Favors/Rookie 1st round pick
Drummond/Perkins

With the Knicks, Hawks, Boston and the Heat slowing down, maybe they will win a playoff series.

****If this line up in 2014 doesn't work, by then, Perkins and Jerebko's contract will expire so we can let them leave and go after someone else. Who knows by then, there's Rondo, Wilson Chandler, Kevin Love, Brook Lopez, Marc Gasol, Roy Hibbert, etc.

vege · Post #4 » by **vege** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:38 am

Those are not realistic FA signs.

HotelVitale · Post #5 » by **HotelVitale** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:20 am

Jodi wrote:Charlie V isn't a free agent...Are you sure you want to waste our 7th pick on Oladipo?..If Oladipo is the BPA at 7, I would rather trade our pick for Eric Gordon...

Because when you have the chance to trade a cheap high upside prospect for a guy on a max deal with a below-average PER and a gruesome injury history, you do it.

HotelVitale · Post #6 » by **HotelVitale** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:42 am

I think the OP's idea is in the range of realistic. I think AI would prefer to sign on a winning team and I doubt the Warriors let Jack go unless some team well overpays him, but we could offer plenty to all three of them. I don't see that all this makes us a great team-- not much better than last year's 76ers-- but it'd make the team competitive and maybe open us up for some trades down the line. The most likely outcome is that we'd stuck in Milwaukee Bucks hell with a ceiling of the 6th seed. I'm honestly up for that right now...and for hoping Drum's development could lift us higher.

And wallacex2, please stop. Westbrook is considered like the 6th or 7th best player in the league, he rarely gets injured, his team will be in the running for the next 8 titles, and he's 24 years old. For the next 4 years at least, he's not getting traded for anyone not named Lebron (or maybe Kyrie).

ImHeisenberg · Post #7 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:59 am

wallacex2jc wrote:Detroit trades:
Greg Monroe
Brandon Knight
Rodney Stuckey

OKC trades:
Russell Westbrook
Kendrick Perkins
Jeremy Lamb.

What are you smoking? Why on Earth would OKC even be interested in trading Westbrook? He only took them to the finals last year with Durant. I'm sure they'd be interested in trading him for a wildly inconsistent Knight, who can't play the PG position and a massive defensive liability in Monroe, and only give up an all star PG who's still in his early 20's.

Basically, stop lobbying this trade. It makes you look dumb.

DetroitDon15 · Post #8 » by **DetroitDon15** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:05 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:
wallacex2jc wrote:Detroit trades:
Greg Monroe
Brandon Knight
Rodney Stuckey

OKC trades:
Russell Westbrook
Kendrick Perkins
Jeremy Lamb.

What are you smoking? Why on Earth would OKC even be interested in trading Westbrook? He only took them to the finals last year with Durant. I'm sure they'd be interested in trading him for a wildly inconsistent Knight, who can't play the PG position and a massive defensive liability in Monroe, and only give up an all star PG who's still in his early 20's.

Basically, stop lobbying this trade. It makes you look dumb.

I gotta second that. Also I don't want Iggy. I get he's good defensively but i'll just take Tony Allen at a 3rd of the price. I'd also take Muhammed and Porter over Oladipo. I'd even take GR3 over him as well.

MrBigShot · Post #9 » by **MrBigShot** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:16 pm

Why 7th pick? We are tied for 5th with NO.

Personally I would be disappointed with Oladipo....need Mac/Shabazz.

Jodi · Post #10 » by **Jodi** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:38 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
Jodi wrote:Charlie V isn't a free agent...Are you sure you want to waste our 7th pick on Oladipo?..If Oladipo is the BPA at 7, I would rather trade our pick for Eric Gordon...

Because when you have the chance to trade a cheap high upside prospect for a guy on a max deal with a below-average PER and a gruesome injury history, you do it.

Oladipo doesn't have that much upside...If we pick 7th and Mac-Man, Smart, or Muhammad have already picked I think it's a good idea to trust Arnie with Gordon's knees...This draft is weak, only those three fit our teams need...You can include Porter on this list too...

HotelVitale · Post #11 » by **HotelVitale** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:17 am

Many scouts like Oladipo's upside more than Smart's and much more than Shabazz's. He was a much better offensive player than either this year and has massive defensive potential. Just passing on what scouts are saying; no one pegs him as the crap offense great defense guy many people on this board seem to assume he'll be.

Gordon could be had for a trade exception and a 2nd. Truly awful contract, truly huge injury risk, and we'd all hate his tunnel vision style of play. Not to mention the fact that, when healthy, he's never been better than that other Gordon was when he was on the Bulls.