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We're standing on the edge of the playoffs. We've got one big game left tonight but I think we can all expect starters resting and extended 2nd unit play after the Pacers game so I figure now is good time to have a discussion on how everyone feels about this season. How satisfied are you with our regular season outing? If you can post why you voted the way you did. I'm personally satisfied with it. We've all but guaranteed HCA in the Playoffs but we've still got room to improve. I expect us to be 50+ wins next season.
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Given the circumstances with the coaching situations, chemistry issues, injuries, and subpar individual play (from 3 of our 4 main starters), it could have been a lot worse. It could have been better too if we had a competent coach. I would say I'm neutral to it, mainly because of our subpar record against .500 and above teams, because that is worrying going forward. But then again, being close to 50 wins in year one of Brooklyn after all those issues is still pretty good.
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i put nuetral.
on one hand we are gonna get close to 50 wins, make the playoffs with HCA and stayed realtively healthy. dwill is playing well and lopez hasnt shown any recurring foot problems. all good stuff
on the other hand, we lay down way too often, dont play with passion or intensity, gave away a ton of games, and for the most part got beat down anytime we played anyone good.
id be lying if i said i wouldnt prefer to have won 42-44 games, but show the attitude of a hard working blue collar team that plays with a ton of heart, passion, and energy.
on one hand we are gonna get close to 50 wins, make the playoffs with HCA and stayed realtively healthy. dwill is playing well and lopez hasnt shown any recurring foot problems. all good stuff
on the other hand, we lay down way too often, dont play with passion or intensity, gave away a ton of games, and for the most part got beat down anytime we played anyone good.
id be lying if i said i wouldnt prefer to have won 42-44 games, but show the attitude of a hard working blue collar team that plays with a ton of heart, passion, and energy.
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I see what both of you guys are saying. I get excited thinking about what this team would look like with a good head coach and a legit PF. Call me crazy but if we add those two things this team is top 3 in the East. Just the coach might do it actually and we can afford to go out and land a good one this offseason.
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If the starting lineup was 5 guys who can 20 and if Williams were healthy all year and they started Blatce Brooks over Evans and Wallace they would won 65 games. Thats 5 guys who can be go to scorers and get u 20
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Before the season my goal was for the Nets to be a top four seed so based on this i am satisfied on there season. I thought this team would win 45-50 games before the season. Now they will probably have to play the Bulls which will be a very difficult series. Bulls are the worst possible match up but with home court and Deron playing so well after the all star game i think its basically 50-50 if we play the Bulls.
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Satisfied, but it definitely could've gone better. Bringing Avery back was a mistake, and Deron injured definitely had an impact on our record.

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Petrofor3 wrote:Before the season my goal was for the Nets to be a top four seed so based on this i am satisfied on there season. I thought this team would win 45-50 games before the season. Now they will probably have to play the Bulls which will be a very difficult series. Bulls are the worst possible match up but with home court and Deron playing so well after the all star game i think its basically 50-50 if we play the Bulls.
Right now we are matched up against the Hawks for what its worth.
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This team was almost entirely built from scratch for this year. Even the returning players had barely played with each other due to various previous injuries.
My preseason prediction for this team based on TALENT was that we should be a 4 seed. IN fact, I went further saying that the Nets and Nix would be the 4/5 seeds in some order...so 5 was the lowest I felt we could achieve and feel that year 1 objectives were met. Now...I expected Boston to be a top 3 seed...along with Miami and I am almost sure I said Indy.
So we are exactly where I expected be. Why did I vote neutral instead of satisfied? Because after watching this team all year...they simply dont leave it all out on the floor. Its more than chemistry. Its a hard team to root for at times. You watch these guys and you think how can a group of players be this talented and not have a clue how to seize control of a game? How can they lack all sense of swagger? I feel like I am watching your typical 35 win just miss the playoffs type of team more often than not.
So the best I can give them is neutral.
My preseason prediction for this team based on TALENT was that we should be a 4 seed. IN fact, I went further saying that the Nets and Nix would be the 4/5 seeds in some order...so 5 was the lowest I felt we could achieve and feel that year 1 objectives were met. Now...I expected Boston to be a top 3 seed...along with Miami and I am almost sure I said Indy.
So we are exactly where I expected be. Why did I vote neutral instead of satisfied? Because after watching this team all year...they simply dont leave it all out on the floor. Its more than chemistry. Its a hard team to root for at times. You watch these guys and you think how can a group of players be this talented and not have a clue how to seize control of a game? How can they lack all sense of swagger? I feel like I am watching your typical 35 win just miss the playoffs type of team more often than not.
So the best I can give them is neutral.
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As much hate this team got from us during the regular season they still managed to win 47 games and I predicted for them to get 48-50 and it looks like they might reach that(unless they rest their starters) I'd give this team a B+ just because of that awful December
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Well said, I kinda feel the same way about this team. There have been too many occasions where I've felt like I'm watching a 35 win type team. Some really ugly losses and embarrassing efforts.enetric wrote:This team was almost entirely built from scratch for this year. Even the returning players had barely played with each other due to various previous injuries.
My preseason prediction for this team based on TALENT was that we should be a 4 seed. IN fact, I went further saying that the Nets and Nix would be the 4/5 seeds in some order...so 5 was the lowest I felt we could achieve and feel that year 1 objectives were met. Now...I expected Boston to be a top 3 seed...along with Miami and I am almost sure I said Indy.
So we are exactly where I expected be. Why did I vote neutral instead of satisfied? Because after watching this team all year...they simply dont leave it all out on the floor. Its more than chemistry. Its a hard team to root for at times. You watch these guys and you think how can a group of players be this talented and not have a clue how to seize control of a game? How can they lack all sense of swagger? I feel like I am watching your typical 35 win just miss the playoffs type of team more often than not.
So the best I can give them is neutral.
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Dexmor wrote:If the starting lineup was 5 guys who can 20 and if Williams were healthy all year and they started Blatce Brooks over Evans and Wallace they would won 65 games. Thats 5 guys who can be go to scorers and get u 20
lay off the cocaine my friend. the heat wont win 65 games this year, let alone us inserting our worst rotation player(brooks) into the starting lineup. Arguably blatche could help, but arguably he coudl hurt the starters as well as he plays much worse as a 4-man and causes a lot of negative plays. that would also give us a lineup with 4 ball stopping isolation players and make us significantly worse defensively, where we are already bad.
in no way, shape, or form are blatche/brooks worth +15 games. you could add josh smith and gordon to this squat and not win 65 games.
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enetric wrote:So we are exactly where I expected be. Why did I vote neutral instead of satisfied? Because after watching this team all year...they simply dont leave it all out on the floor. Its more than chemistry. Its a hard team to root for at times. You watch these guys and you think how can a group of players be this talented and not have a clue how to seize control of a game? How can they lack all sense of swagger? I feel like I am watching your typical 35 win just miss the playoffs type of team more often than not.
So the best I can give them is neutral.
Perfectly put and could not be said any better.
This team might win 50 games, yet if all you did was watch the games and not look at the standings or scoreboard you would think its the same 25-30 win team from the past few years with the horrible stench of losing on it. We dont have any swagger, we dont have any identity, and we dont have much competitiveness.
its really a double edged sword. we have a ton of talent and despite lack of roster flexibility and being locked into this team, we still have alot of potential and a pretty decent ceiling even with minor adjustments. on the other end, its hard seeing this team competing with this kind of effort really competing with the big boys
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To the people that raise passion as a concern do you believe a better coach would help fix that?
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Nondescript wrote:To the people that raise passion as a concern do you believe a better coach would help fix that?
fix it? No.
Imrprove it, or greatly improve it? Yes.
Teams often get their personality from their coach and play with the passion that they do. If we get a firey passionate coach and think that will translate on the court. but thats only 1/2 the equation. i think you still need an on court leader thats plays with a ton of passion and competitiveness. maybe someone steps up, maybe we bring int hat guy. i dont think it needs to be your star player either.
If you look at what skiles and sjax brought from that standpoint to milwaukee for instance, we could use that kind of boost passion wise.
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Absolutely. Look at how someone like Thibs or even Mark Jackson have their teams playing with passion and self belief. In Thibs' case, they're massive overachievers because they really don't have much talent at all. Although having a fiery personality (in a mostly good way) in the locker room would help a lot too, but I think better coaching way is the main way to achieve that.Nondescript wrote:To the people that raise passion as a concern do you believe a better coach would help fix that?
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Satisfied Is my vote. To be honest we could have been a 53-56 win team this season. The game against Minny, Philly a couple weeks back, recent bulls game where we blew a lead, and the Jkidd kick out come to mind. We've started Reggie Evans for the majority of the season. If you had told me he'd be out starting 4 I probably would've said we'd be a .500 team at best. They don't have me convinced they can beat any playoff team any night, except for Indy I guess. Shoot, if Joe's veins weren't colder than Siberia we could've been fighting Milwaukee for the honor of being Miami's warmup.
There were positives however. We have locked down HCA in the 1st round which I had guessed before the season. Aside from Miami, Nets have proved enough to me that no team is unbeatable for us in the East and that we are a starting caliber PF and a competent coach away from being a perennial top 3 seed with a couple trips to the ECF. If Lebron ever gets a serious injury we have a shot at a Finals appearance. This RS was good for our team. No one expected us to be competing for titles right away. We get a year of chemistry and hopefully two series worth of playoff basketball for our team to play as a unit for the first time. Teams that come together as ours did usually struggle when thy first get together, however, we've had moderate success. Our teams turnaround from last year is the second best I've ever seen(Celtics 07-08). From 22 wins to 48-50 is a really big leap.
Having been seen as a laughing stock for the last 4-5 years it feels good to be relevant(haven't heard an analysts make the New Jersey mistake in a while). Winning almost as many games this season as we've won in the last 3 combined I can feel nothing less than satisfied.
There were positives however. We have locked down HCA in the 1st round which I had guessed before the season. Aside from Miami, Nets have proved enough to me that no team is unbeatable for us in the East and that we are a starting caliber PF and a competent coach away from being a perennial top 3 seed with a couple trips to the ECF. If Lebron ever gets a serious injury we have a shot at a Finals appearance. This RS was good for our team. No one expected us to be competing for titles right away. We get a year of chemistry and hopefully two series worth of playoff basketball for our team to play as a unit for the first time. Teams that come together as ours did usually struggle when thy first get together, however, we've had moderate success. Our teams turnaround from last year is the second best I've ever seen(Celtics 07-08). From 22 wins to 48-50 is a really big leap.
Having been seen as a laughing stock for the last 4-5 years it feels good to be relevant(haven't heard an analysts make the New Jersey mistake in a while). Winning almost as many games this season as we've won in the last 3 combined I can feel nothing less than satisfied.
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PetroNet wrote:i put nuetral.
on one hand we are gonna get close to 50 wins, make the playoffs with HCA and stayed realtively healthy. dwill is playing well and lopez hasnt shown any recurring foot problems. all good stuff
on the other hand, we lay down way too often, dont play with passion or intensity, gave away a ton of games, and for the most part got beat down anytime we played anyone good.
id be lying if i said i wouldnt prefer to have won 42-44 games, but show the attitude of a hard working blue collar team that plays with a ton of heart, passion, and energy.

enetric wrote:This team was almost entirely built from scratch for this year. Even the returning players had barely played with each other due to various previous injuries.
My preseason prediction for this team based on TALENT was that we should be a 4 seed. IN fact, I went further saying that the Nets and Nix would be the 4/5 seeds in some order...so 5 was the lowest I felt we could achieve and feel that year 1 objectives were met. Now...I expected Boston to be a top 3 seed...along with Miami and I am almost sure I said Indy.
So we are exactly where I expected be. Why did I vote neutral instead of satisfied? Because after watching this team all year...they simply dont leave it all out on the floor. Its more than chemistry. Its a hard team to root for at times. You watch these guys and you think how can a group of players be this talented and not have a clue how to seize control of a game? How can they lack all sense of swagger? I feel like I am watching your typical 35 win just miss the playoffs type of team more often than not.
So the best I can give them is neutral.
So you wanted a team that overachieved

I agree to a certain extent...there is definitely a character to this team where they lose focus and play disinterested basketball...w/ that said and those games being the most frustrating to watch, I believe it comes with the territory of a new team who went through a coaching change and a bunch of injuries specifically the lows of Deron Williams...
However, I am satisfied because I frankly did not believe this team could do any better considering the ups and downs, the perseverance it would take to come close to 50 wins top 4 seed....ultimately, 47-50 game season would be enough of a challenge for this team...
Watching us play ball the last couple of weeks even coming off several disappointing wins vs the Nuggets, Jazz and Bulls (or even further back vs Philly, Clippers and Hawks)...there has been some up and downs even in wins, but we closed the door on every single one of those wins by either doing enough to hold onto a win or closing out strong...
Maybe we could be on a 10 game win streak now...but if you go even further back, our team was still figuring things out as we went from Feb. to March...I truly believe dealing with match up problems and finding a way to play to our strengths and not letting the opposition dictate the game will ultimately decide if we can advance to the second round...
Has this season been frustrating, without a doubt...but we are gel-ing at the right time, we have the chemistry to make some noise in the playoffs and it all comes down to everyone doing their job, executing our offense and not taking off one possession on the defensive side...Our big guns have to step up and put up big numbers and our role players need to show up support and sustain periods of the game when our starters are out...If our bench fails we fail...to be honest, I'm more concerned w/ a potential choke and the lack of confidence that can carry over into next season...right now, this team is displaying a back bone whether leads are lost or not or whether we are playing mistake free basketball or not....the back bone, the desire and fire is there enough to see a playoff team ready to compete...can we sustain that throughout 48 minutes of every playoff game is the question...
That is all I can ask for...considering, like E said, this team was basically just thrown together we are exactly where I expected maybe even a little further than expected in my mind...
All I can ask for now, once in the playoffs...stick together, play tenacious basketball and leave it all out on the floor....AND D-UP!!!...
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enetric wrote:This team was almost entirely built from scratch for this year. Even the returning players had barely played with each other due to various previous injuries.
My preseason prediction for this team based on TALENT was that we should be a 4 seed. IN fact, I went further saying that the Nets and Nix would be the 4/5 seeds in some order...so 5 was the lowest I felt we could achieve and feel that year 1 objectives were met. Now...I expected Boston to be a top 3 seed...along with Miami and I am almost sure I said Indy.
So we are exactly where I expected be. Why did I vote neutral instead of satisfied? Because after watching this team all year...they simply dont leave it all out on the floor. Its more than chemistry. Its a hard team to root for at times. You watch these guys and you think how can a group of players be this talented and not have a clue how to seize control of a game? How can they lack all sense of swagger? I feel like I am watching your typical 35 win just miss the playoffs type of team more often than not.
So the best I can give them is neutral.
This is exactly how I feel, and I also voted neutral.
I give Deron Williams a ton of credit for his midseason bounce back. That said, this team has dogged it in a lot of these games. There is no excuse for not being above 50 wins, and in contention for that top 2-3 seed instead of 4th.
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Probably neutral. The results have been fine but a better coach would've done wonders for this team in making us legit contenders and making us play more consistent basketball. We lose to good/elite teams because our coaches game plan gets ate up by teams that can execute consistently. To be fair, to a certain extent, a healthy Deron year round might've helped us out but I do think he was severely hindered by JJ's terrible start and our coaching's snail pace.
I'm not sure how anyone can be happy with the fact that it would take a miracle for us to win more than 1 game in the 2nd round. We should've easily been 2 or 3 seed and avoided the dreaded 4/5 slot. That's ATL Hawks territory. We need to get better next year. I believe in our talent from 1-12 - so I think it's BS when people say we overachieved.
I'm not sure how anyone can be happy with the fact that it would take a miracle for us to win more than 1 game in the 2nd round. We should've easily been 2 or 3 seed and avoided the dreaded 4/5 slot. That's ATL Hawks territory. We need to get better next year. I believe in our talent from 1-12 - so I think it's BS when people say we overachieved.