Kind of dissapointed in Dallas...

[Trader_Joe]

whatever happened to roddy bobobosis

He's a little upset he lost that bet to me and that his team underperformed.

Oh you meant the player, not the poster?

[HotrodBeaubois]

whatever happened to roddy bobobosis

He's a little upset he lost that bet to me and that his team underperformed.

Oh you meant the player, not the poster?

Must be nice to win bet by getting spotted 30 Games without the teams superstar and needing another coach on top of that.


Congratulations on your 1st rd exit .

[Trader_Joe]

Who would we have bumped from the playoffs ? Houston for 1 we won the season series 3-1

Say Houston wins their last 3 47-35


And Dallas goes 2-1 41-41


So 6 games back


1-November 10th @ Charlotte instead of Murphy getting 30 Minutes scoring 8 points Dirk plays do we still lose in overtime by 4 ?


2-November 19 against Golden state swap Murphy out with Dirk and we dont lose by 4 @ home in OT


3-November 27 @ Philadelphia lose by 2


4-December 12th @ Boston Lose by 2 in OT


5-December 15th @ Minnesota Lose by in OT


6-Dec 27th @ OKC Lose by 6 in OT


7-January 2nd @ Miami Lose by 10 in OT


8-January 5th Vs New orleans Lose by 3 in OT


There is 8 games lost by 2 or lost in OT the only game Dirk started was the New Orleans game and that was his first start .


9-Then there was January 31 @ Golden State Lose by 3 with Dirk out


So yeah im sure we could have won 6 of those 9 games to atleast tie Houston and knock them out with the tiebreaker .


Or Golden State wins their last 2 games 47-35 so Dallas would be 6 games back 2 of the above games were lost to Golden state without Dirk the only game we played with Dirk we won by 25 .


So yeah pretty sure we could have knocked them out too.

Pretty sad you win a bet getting spotted 29 games without Dirk . And oh you also needed a new Head Coach .


I stand by my prediction ..If Dirk didn't get hurt in the preseason and was able to go through the whole preseason Dallas would have had a better record than Brooklyn especially if you wouldn't have gotten a new coach.

I love it!!!!

Now it's... IF you had Dirk all season and IF we didn't get a new coach.
Before it was IF we didn't get Howard.

Simply put HRB, I was right, you were wrong.

It's not my fault I've been noticing for years now that Dirk has been posting career lows in successive seasons in several key statistic categories. It's also not my fault I've noticed he's had some nagging injuries adding up and he's missed modest time, the last couple seasons. But it's also not fault, I didn't know Dirk would miss time but was STILL willing to take the bet...just as you were.

And I'll tell you this.. IF I did lose the bet (which I didn't think I would.. why I made it), I wouldn't be acting like a sore loser about it. I'd man up, congratulate the other person and move on, but I guess I can't expect similar class online.

As for your list of "games you should have won"
GS - did not have Bogut
Philly - didn't have Bynum
Minny - didn't have Love and was Rubio's first game back
OKC - so you think you would have won in OKC with Dirk? .. even tho they spanked you 4-0 in the series?
Miami - sure you would have won in Miami

Should we also go through your wins too and nullify those were the opposing team was not healthy?
Either way.. doesn't work like that.. or matter.


Finally.. you keep bring up BK who has NOTHING to do with my stance in this topic that Dallas would not have made the playoffs in the West. Other than the fact Brooklyn (along with Phoenix) spanked Dallas in Dallas during their 8 game road trip in a very meaningful game for both teams.

Again, Dallas has home losses with Dirk to:

PHO
NO
MIL
BK
ATL
LAL

When the stakes were high. That is not a playoff team in the West.

[Br0ken_Sp0ke]

Oh mavs fans, it wasn't that long ago you were still assuring us you were playoff bound, especially you roddy. Now it's all excuses and whining.

No kidding. It wasn't even that long ago when hotrodbeaubois was assuring everyone that the Mavs were getting in and that Houston had an 80% chance of missing the playoffs unless they made a major acquisition at the deadline. They actually weakened themselves short-term at the deadline and still made the playoffs and he still won’t shut up about how they aren’t a worthy playoff team. He was acting VERY self-assured and now that he ended up wrong, here come the excuses instead of just admitting he really overestimated his team...

[HotrodBeaubois]

Who would we have bumped from the playoffs ? Houston for 1 we won the season series 3-1

Say Houston wins their last 3 47-35


And Dallas goes 2-1 41-41


So 6 games back


1-November 10th @ Charlotte instead of Murphy getting 30 Minutes scoring 8 points Dirk plays do we still lose in overtime by 4 ?


2-November 19 against Golden state swap Murphy out with Dirk and we dont lose by 4 @ home in OT


3-November 27 @ Philadelphia lose by 2


4-December 12th @ Boston Lose by 2 in OT


5-December 15th @ Minnesota Lose by in OT


6-Dec 27th @ OKC Lose by 6 in OT


7-January 2nd @ Miami Lose by 10 in OT


8-January 5th Vs New orleans Lose by 3 in OT


There is 8 games lost by 2 or lost in OT the only game Dirk started was the New Orleans game and that was his first start .


9-Then there was January 31 @ Golden State Lose by 3 with Dirk out


So yeah im sure we could have won 6 of those 9 games to atleast tie Houston and knock them out with the tiebreaker .


Or Golden State wins their last 2 games 47-35 so Dallas would be 6 games back 2 of the above games were lost to Golden state without Dirk the only game we played with Dirk we won by 25 .


So yeah pretty sure we could have knocked them out too.

Pretty sad you win a bet getting spotted 29 games without Dirk . And oh you also needed a new Head Coach .


I stand by my prediction ..If Dirk didn't get hurt in the preseason and was able to go through the whole preseason Dallas would have had a better record than Brooklyn especially if you wouldn't have gotten a new coach.

I love it!!!!

Now it's... IF you had Dirk all season and IF we didn't get a new coach.
Before it was IF we didn't get Howard.

Simply put HRB, I was right, you were wrong.

It's not my fault I've been noticing for years now that Dirk has been posting career lows in successive seasons in several key statistic categories. It's also not my fault I've noticed he's had some nagging injuries adding up and he's missed modest time, the last couple seasons. But it's also not fault, I didn't know Dirk would miss time but was STILL willing to take the bet...just as you were.

And I'll tell you this.. IF I did lose the bet (which I didn't think I would.. why I made it), I wouldn't be acting like a sore loser about it. I'd man up, congratulate the other person and move on, but I guess I can't expect similar class online.

As for your list of "games you should have won"
GS - did not have Bogut
Philly - didn't have Bynum
Minny - didn't have Love and was Rubio's first game back
OKC - so you think you would have won in OKC with Dirk? .. even tho they spanked you 4-0 in the series?
Miami - sure you would have won in Miami

Either way.. doesn't work like that.. or matter.

Finally.. you keep bring up BK who has NOTHING to do with my stance in this topic that Dallas would not have made the playoffs in the West. Other than the fact Brooklyn (along with Phoenix) spanked Dallas in Dallas during their 8 game road trip in a very meaningful game for both teams.

Again, Dallas has home losses with Dirk to:

PHO
NO
MIL
BK
ATL
LAL

When the stakes were high. That is not a playoff team in the West.

Brooklyn has Home losses to


Minnesota No love No Rubio
Milwaukee
Dallas
Atlanta
Chicago

So just because we have home losses we are terrible ?

@ OKC up 9 with 7 minutes Dirks 2nd game off the bench . Dirk plays less than 6 4th quarter minutes ---So a healthy Dirk wouldn't help here ?


Funny that your reasoning was you saw Dirk declining so that's what you based it off of .


Sure congratulations you won the Bet . Would I have made that bet I known Dirk would miss 27 games due to knee surgery and Mavs going going 12-15

Then take 23 games to learn his new team 9-14 with Dirk averaging 15.2 PPG 5.7 RPG .423 FG% .388 3P% .798 FTS


To finally getting to form his last 27 games 16-11 with Dirk averaging 18.8 PPG 7.9 RPG .509 FG% .444 3P% .910 FT%

So your telling me that if I would have told you that Dirk raised his scoring by almost 4 PPG while shooting .509 FG% ( second best of his career ) that he wouldn't have helped win 8 of the games the were lost by 4 or less or in OT ?


Would you have made the Bet if you knew Deron would miss 30 Games ?

[HotrodBeaubois]

Oh mavs fans, it wasn't that long ago you were still assuring us you were playoff bound, especially you roddy. Now it's all excuses and whining.

No kidding. It wasn't even that long ago when hotrodbeaubois was assuring everyone that the Mavs were getting in and that Houston had an 80% chance of missing the playoffs unless they made a major acquisition at the deadline. They actually weakened themselves short-term at the deadline and still made the playoffs and he still won’t shut up about how they aren’t a worthy playoff team. He was acting VERY self-assured and now that he ended up wrong, here come the excuses instead of just admitting he really overestimated his team...

Hey I congratulate Houston for doing well ... I was wrong ...


But I will not admit I was wrong saying that Dallas was better than Brooklyn. Would I have said that if I knew Dirk was going to miss 30 games ? Hell No !!!

[Trader_Joe]

Actually my reasoning was only about 20% based around Dirk.. the rest was based off how bad the roster was and signing all those players to 1 year contracts.

And like I said.. I'm in Dallas monthly, see them plenty live (used to have corporate seats) and talk to coworkers about them. No one had high hopes for them that I talked to.

And while you wouldn't have made the bet if you knew Dirk was going to miss 27 games?
So what?
I made the bet not knowing he would miss any.
I took the bigger risk.. (I guess, most people polled in that thread said BK would win more games)


And for the 455th time.. what does BK have to do with this?
This thread was about people's disappointment in Dallas and some claiming they would have made the playoffs (specifically beating out Houston) if Dirk was healthy which I don't agree with.

If you want to look at our home losses.. Minny was our 2nd game together and we blew a 22 point lead. Milwaukee is a terrible match-up for us as is Atlanta. Chicago is an excellently coached team that has our number. Our only bad/unexplainable loss on that list was Dallas. We're also an excellent road team, which you are not.

But you're missing the point... you guys are healthy, Dirk playing well and have a lot on the line. You don't lose at home to Phoenix or get spanked by BK in recent weeks if you expect to be called a playoff team... not to mention ATL, MIL, LAL and NO all with Dirk.


Either way are you not disappointed with Dallas?
From reading your posts on the Dallas board it seems you were certain they were making the playoffs and have been for a while up until very recently.



And I don't get your question.. would have bet if I knew Deron would miss 27 games?
What does that have to do with anything?!

I DID NOT KNOW DIRK WOULD MISS TIME.

You act as though I had inside knowledge or psychic ability to know Dirk would be out. I did not.

[DreamTeam09]

I'm disappointed in the Mavs too, but Dirk did miss 30 games so... Hopefully a pg falls to us in the draft, other than that I don't know what they this off season.

[PetroNet]

Lol at how much of a sore loser HotrodBeaubois is being right now.... he comes out making all these claims about how the nets are going to be a .500 team and dallas is a 50 win lock, then when it doesnt turn that way the excuses keep flowing.

dude, just admit you were long and move on. no shame in that.

[PetroNet]

LOL at me. What an incredibly stupid homer post by me....

in that same thread you also said deron williams wasnt a top 25 player

it's all good though, we all have our homer moments.

I'm still shocked at how many times in that thread and on the GB that "all the nets added to a 22 win team was joe johnson, joe johnson does not equal an extra 25-30 wins".

[Johnny Firpo]

Come on TJ, once Deron choose the Nets, and some Mavs fan argued how big of a mistake he made, you became emotionally invested in the Nets doing better than the Mavs. The discussion probably started before Deron made his decision. It was clear as day then, and clear as day now, in your gloating. Not saying there is a whole lof of wrong with it, but you might as well just admit it, of course the fact you are a Brooklyn fan has a lot to do with your opinion, and how you articulate it... I mean, come on. It's clear as day.

You are a good poster, and i've probably read all of those threads through. I would still argue, you were a little bit negatively biased, and underrated Dirk's presence last summer, even though that you were probably right about another thing, many of us Mavs fans vastly overrated the aquisitions. I didn't, well, at least not fully. I liked the team's overall talent level, however, i wasn't sure if they'll be able to build the necessary chemistry, and teamwork, to make it work. While i think they would made the playoffs if Dirk was healthy, this team was not, and wouldn't have been a very good team even with him fully healthy, because those pieces weren't the greatest fit for him, to put it mildly.

[cs hauser]

The disappointment for Dallas happened in the off-season, when they failed to land Deron, Dwight, or any of their free agent targets. That was the real disappointment for the Mavs.

As far as their actual season... well, it wasn't a disappointment at all. Their season went on par with preseason expectations. Most people had them pegged as a team with victory totals in the low 40s, fighting with Utah and Portland for one of the last playoff spots. That's more or less where they find themselves at the end of the season. Right now, it's looking like the Mavs will finish with 40 or 41 wins and they got eliminated from contention with only 3 games remaining on the schedule.

~40 wins is actually better than expected, if Dirk's injury is taken into account. If people were told before the season that Dirk would miss 29 games to injury, few would've realistically projected the Mavs to win more 30 games this season.

[silent_dreamer]

When I originally started this thread, I was disappointed that the Mavericks failed to reach .500 because I wanted Dirk and the rest to be able to shave. Since the off season I wasn't really expecting them to make the playoffs. I'm not a Mavs fan, so them falling short of the 8th seed didn't bother me. They finally did it though! They have reached .500 with two games left in the season haha. Time to bring out the razors.