Lakers FTA advantage since March

[IamBBAnalysis]

But seriously, cry some more. How ironic for a Spurs fan to post this, when people have claimed this against them for years and called them the Sterns. You should know better than to buy into this conspiracy crap.

It's not Spurs fans, or Jazz fans, or Warriors fans or Wolves fans, etc.

Teams are getting robbed. A .500 team is suddenly leading the league in FTA while Utah goes to the bottom. Game after game, people are posting videos and highlight play after play where Lakers are getting phantom calls while opponents are not getting obvious fouls in crucial minutes.

It's not crying, it's about the fact that the NBA's interest to push the Lakers into the playoffs is killing the integrity of the game.

Lol. Oh boy. A few calls that went bad in favor of the Lakers that someone pointed out. That's proof? Yes, the Lakers got a few calls here or there. Ooooh. Its a conspiracy!

[AustinRiversGod]

Interested to see the Jazz FTA stats for these last couple months. Anyone got a breakdown?

[Tubal]

But seriously, cry some more. How ironic for a Spurs fan to post this, when people have claimed this against them for years and called them the Sterns. You should know better than to buy into this conspiracy crap.

It's not Spurs fans, or Jazz fans, or Warriors fans or Wolves fans, etc.

Teams are getting robbed. A .500 team is suddenly leading the league in FTA while Utah goes to the bottom. Game after game, people are posting videos and highlight play after play where Lakers are getting phantom calls while opponents are not getting obvious fouls in crucial minutes.

It's not crying, it's about the fact that the NBA's interest to push the Lakers into the playoffs is killing the integrity of the game.

Lol. Oh boy. A few calls that went bad in favor of the Lakers that someone pointed out. That's proof? Yes, the Lakers got a few calls here or there. Ooooh. Its a conspiracy!

You're grossly understating what's happening.



Don't be ridikulus.

[rayofsunshine]

It's irrelevant now. Even if they make the playoffs, they're not going anywhere without Kobe.

It is still disgraceful.

This happens all the time. Get over it. It got wade and the heat that first chip, it got Lebron tons of victories over kobe in his early career. It's nba life. Phil Jackson said it best "they extend series." If this is true Kobe really should have rested, because we were guaranteed to get in anyway right? It's obvious the league didn't tell Kobe and the Lakers about it.

[WEB IV]

It's irrelevant now. Even if they make the playoffs, they're not going anywhere without Kobe.

It is still disgraceful.

Exactly.

[Tubal]

Interested to see the Jazz FTA stats for these last couple months. Anyone got a breakdown?

I put this together Thursday, before last night's games (when Lakers shot 50 FT, and Utah shot 15) So it's even worse now.

[AustinRiversGod]

But seriously, cry some more. How ironic for a Spurs fan to post this, when people have claimed this against them for years and called them the Sterns. You should know better than to buy into this conspiracy crap.

It's not Spurs fans, or Jazz fans, or Warriors fans or Wolves fans, etc.

Teams are getting robbed. A .500 team is suddenly leading the league in FTA while Utah goes to the bottom. Game after game, people are posting videos and highlight play after play where Lakers are getting phantom calls while opponents are not getting obvious fouls in crucial minutes.

It's not crying, it's about the fact that the NBA's interest to push the Lakers into the playoffs is killing the integrity of the game.

Lol. Oh boy. A few calls that went bad in favor of the Lakers that someone pointed out. That's proof? Yes, the Lakers got a few calls here or there. Ooooh. Its a conspiracy!

Lol stop. All questionable calls coming in the 4th quarter with a few minutes left when it seemed like GSW had the game wrapped up. Those same freethrows that many are complaining about won the game for the Lakers, that's a fact

[DRose4MVP]

Theres are dozens of better explanations than "CONSPIRACY" you guys

Its easy to just look at box scores, but be honest with yourself, how many times this year have you actually sat down and watched an entire Laker game? Outside of Laker fans, probably less than 10, 5, maybe just one? Ive tuned into plenty of 4th quarters in close games, but actually devoting an entire 2.5 hours to watching LA play some random team, probably not too many people have done more than a couple times outside of Laker fans.

You dont think people outside of Lakers fans watch Lakers games? lol.. Ummm you'd be wrong. There are NBA fans that love watching any game on any night. I'm a Bulls fan yet I watch all teams. Plenty of people do that.

[An Unbiased Fan]

Interested to see the Jazz FTA stats for these last couple months. Anyone got a breakdown?

I put this together Thursday, before last night's games (when Lakers shot 50 FT, and Utah shot 15) So it's even worse now.

Stern fixing things for that evil big market Indiana team.

And SMH at Stern scrwein over small market teams like the Knicks & Heat.

[AustinRiversGod]

Interested to see the Jazz FTA stats for these last couple months. Anyone got a breakdown?

I put this together Thursday, before last night's games (when Lakers shot 50 FT, and Utah shot 15) So it's even worse now.

Stern fixing things for that evil big market Indiana team.

And SMH at Stern scrwein over small market teams like the Knicks & Heat.

Because Indiana, New York, and Miami are fighting for a playoff spot

[DByrne86]

Bias does not equal conspiracy. They are mutually exclusive. So, just because someone points out bias does not mean they think its a conspiracy.

This might be the worst employment of logic I've ever seen on this board.

If two things are mutually exclusive, it means that the existence of one implies the non-existence of the other.

In this case however, if there is a ref conspiracy, it obviously implies a ref bias, for how else could the conspiracy be executed?

If there is observable ref bias, it does not prove a conspiracy, but it does count as evidence for a possible conspiracy.

So, in fact, the two events are far from mutually exclusive and your argument is awful.

There are a lot of other good arguments against a conspiracy. There are no good arguments against bias however, because the bias has been obvious and observed by many unbiased observers. And, of course, it is the statistical evidence overwhelmingly supports a strong bias in favor of LA the last month.

[Tubal]

Interested to see the Jazz FTA stats for these last couple months. Anyone got a breakdown?

I put this together Thursday, before last night's games (when Lakers shot 50 FT, and Utah shot 15) So it's even worse now.

...

Stern fixing things for that evil big market Indiana team.

And SMH at Stern scrwein over small market teams like the Knicks & Heat.

I made this because I thought the refs were helping the Lakers get in by screwing Utah with foul calls. And that was before last night. Utah is getting almost half as many free throws as they normally did.

Then I noticed that Dallas was 2nd lowest, and it was even more proof.

Last night's game just cemented it for me.

Think what you want, but I'm convinced.

[An Unbiased Fan]

Because Indiana, New York, and Miami are fighting for a playoff spot

Lakers are #20 on that chart and getting less FTs than their average. So yeh, stop crying, there is no conspiracy. Everyone knows Mark Jackson called out LA last time they met and love hack-a-Dwight.

[An Unbiased Fan]

I put this together Thursday, before last night's games (when Lakers shot 50 FT, and Utah shot 15) So it's even worse now.

...

Stern fixing things for that evil big market Indiana team.

And SMH at Stern scrwein over small market teams like the Knicks & Heat.

I made this because I thought the refs were helping the Lakers get in by screwing Utah with foul calls. And that was before last night. Utah is getting almost half as many free throws as they normally did.

Then I noticed that Dallas was 2nd lowest, and it was even more proof.

Last night's game just cemented it for me.

Think what you want, but I'm convinced.

1) Dallas was knocked out once they lost to the Lakers

2) LA is #20 on that same list. If Stern was fixing things, you would at least expect them to be up there with Indiana.

3) Meanwhile, both Houston 7 GS are getting more FTs than LA.

Just give it up. the Lakers are where they are because they went to a 7 man rotation and burned out their players.

[Leto]

Bias does not equal conspiracy. They are mutually exclusive. So, just because someone points out bias does not mean they think its a conspiracy.

This might be the worst employment of logic I've ever seen on this board.

If two things are mutually exclusive, it means that the existence of one implies the non-existence of the other.

In this case however, if there is a ref conspiracy, it obviously implies a ref bias, for how else could the conspiracy be executed?

If there is observable ref bias, it does not prove a conspiracy, but it does count as evidence for a possible conspiracy.

So, in fact, the two events are far from mutually exclusive and your argument is awful.

There are a lot of other good arguments against a conspiracy. There are no good arguments against bias however, because the bias has been obvious and observed by many unbiased observers. And, of course, it is the statistical evidence overwhelmingly supports a strong bias in favor of LA the last month.

Settle down there, hotrod. You're right. Mutually exclusive is not the terminolgy I was looking for. Nevertheless, my point stands: Biases can exist without the inclusion of a conspiracy.

Edit ad: Also, saying there are "unbiased" observers" is the worst employment of observation in the history of mankind, ever. There is no such condition as "unbiased."

[Effigy]

Because Indiana, New York, and Miami are fighting for a playoff spot

Lakers are #20 on that chart and getting less FTs than their average. So yeh, stop crying, there is no conspiracy. Everyone knows Mark Jackson called out LA last time they met and love hack-a-Dwight.

Except that one game yesterday pushed them up to 28.8 attempts, which is the second highest in the whole league.

[richboy]

Again this isn't a minor difference. This is the LARGEST DIFFERENCE IN NBA HISTORY over the last 21 games and it involves a completely mediocre .500 team. Lots of teams have had big men who can't shoot free throws and a jump shooting perimeter player, which is what Kobe is. None of them have come to what LAL has gotten since their joke of a playoff push.

Do you watch NBA. Teams do this to the Lakers and Dwight. Why nobody does hack a Reggie Evans. Why they don't do hack a Deandre Jordan is irrelevant to the argument. They do it to the Lakers. Until you showcase that the Lakers are getting a ton more free throws outside of hack a Dwight you are saying nothing but I haven't watched the games.

Lets take this to the next level. Since teams are not only hacking Dwight just about anytime he has a chance to score or on purpose. What does that mean for in game action? Those that know bball raise your hands. It means the other team is playing against the Lakers half court defense more and more. It also means the Lakers are in the penalty more and more. I hear cry about Steve Black going to the line on his 2 free throws last night. Was he in a shooting position? When Kobe injured himself he wasn't shooting either. Yet they went to the line. Why? Because they were in the penalty.

Those that read my post should know this. I said when the Lakers got Dwight that the Lakers would live at the line. The Magic would have lived at the line but the only player who was able to create was Dwight. But go look at the numbers. Dwight Howard has the highest free throw per shot rate in the history of the league. He blows away Shaq. He blows away Wilt. What is amazing is Dwight is not only fouled at a ridiculous rate but he almost never is fouled on the floor. He is pretty much always fouled in the shooting position. Meaning teams are fouling Dwight and he is going to the line. They are getting into the penalty. Pretty much every Laker benefits because the Lakers play much of each quarter in the penalty. Loose ball fouls they get free throws. Off the ball fouls free throws.

So telling me what the Lakers do as a team is irrelevant. Did the refs give Dwight those 39 free throws against the Magic. Why did the Magic do hack on Dwight with the Lakers but didn't do it with Jordan on the clippers doesn't mean much.

[Tubal]

Stern fixing things for that evil big market Indiana team.

And SMH at Stern scrwein over small market teams like the Knicks & Heat.

I made this because I thought the refs were helping the Lakers get in by screwing Utah with foul calls. And that was before last night. Utah is getting almost half as many free throws as they normally did.

Then I noticed that Dallas was 2nd lowest, and it was even more proof.

Last night's game just cemented it for me.

Think what you want, but I'm convinced.

1) Dallas was knocked out once they lost to the Lakers

2) LA is #20 on that same list. If Stern was fixing things, you would at least expect them to be up there with Indiana.

3) Meanwhile, both Houston 7 GS are getting more FTs than LA.

Just give it up. the Lakers are where they are because they went to a 7 man rotation and burned out their players.

Here's an updated one, includes games through last night.

[EscapoTHB]

It's irrelevant now. Even if they make the playoffs, they're not going anywhere without Kobe.

They still have Dwight pau and maybe Nash. Before the season started you'd have thought that alone could get it done.

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[UnderdogRaptors]

As a Warriors fan, I was honestly impressed last night. If we almost won 8 on 5, I think that says a lot about how we played.

It won't matter what the Lakers do in the playoffs because OKC will get more calls than them each game will be a blowout and a sweep...I hope Durant ref baits like crazy so the Lakers get a taste of there own medicine.