Survey Project: Shaquille O"Neal by season

ElGee · Post #1 » by **ElGee** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:28 am

This is the Shaquille O'Neal thread for the Wins Added by Season Survey Project. viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1241811 Please read the project guidelines before posting in the thread.

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Shaquille O'Neal
1993
1994
1995
1996
1997
1998
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
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2006
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2010
2011

colts18 · Post #2 » by **colts18** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:48 am

I assume we aren't supposed to take his injuries into account. Should I judge him by his playoff form?

Do you have the in/out Sri data for Shaq? There is a large sample size of games missed for him

ElGee · Post #3 » by **ElGee** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:24 am

colts18 wrote:I assume we aren't supposed to take his injuries into account. Should I judge him by his playoff form?

Do you have the in/out Sri data for Shaq? There is a large sample size of games missed for him

Yes I will post all the related information shortly. You are NOT suppose to take into account missed time in the RS. You ARE supposed to judge him by his end of the season form ("playoffs" -- although I shy away from that word because some people only end up playing 3 playoff game and I want you to judge based on how he his playing at the end of the year...April, May, June...is he healthy, how well is he playing?

ElGee · Post #4 » by **ElGee** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:52 am

Shaquille O'Neal related In/Out (WOWY)

GSP · Post #5 » by **GSP** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:57 am

1993 - 4.5
1994 - 5
1995 - 6
1996 - 6
1997 - 7.5
1998 - 7.5
1999 - 8
2000 - 9
2001 - 9
2002 - 8.5
2003 - 6.5
2004 - 7
2005 - 5.5
2006 - 6
2007 - 4
2008 - 4.5
2009 - 4.5
2010 - 3.5
2011 - 2

JordansBulls · Post #6 » by **JordansBulls** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:21 pm

Shaquille O'Neal
1993 +8.0 WS (49.0)
1994 +15.0 WS (56.0)
1995 +15.0 WS (56.0)
1996 +14.0 WS (55.0)
1997 +15.0 WS (56.0)
1998 +16.0 WS (57.0)
1999 +17.0 WS (58.0)
2000 +21.0 WS (62.0)
2001 +20.0 WS (61.0)
2002 +18.0 WS (59.0)
2003 +13.0 WS (54.0)
2004 +12.0 WS (53.0)
2005 +10.0 WS (51.0)
2006 +8.0 WS (49.0)
2007 +6.0 WS (47.0)
2008 +4.0 WS (45.0)
2009 +3.0 WS (44.0)
2010 +2.0 WS (43.0)
2011 +0.0 WS (41.0)

Dipper 13 · Post #7 » by **Dipper 13** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:18 pm

JordansBulls wrote:Shaquille O'Neal
2007 +6.0 WS (47.0)

Perhaps I have misunderstood your model here (Winshares?). How can you rank 2007 Shaq over 1966 Wilt? Did you use the roster strength against him? Lets not forget how they all tanked in the playoffs and lost 2 of the last 3 games, despite Wilt outplaying Russell in those 3 games.

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1243777#p35356356

JordansBulls wrote:Wilt Chamberlain
1966 - +5.0 WS (46.0)

SideshowBob · Post #8 » by **SideshowBob** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:27 pm

1993 +4.0
1994 +5.0
1995 +5.5
1996 +5.5
1997 +5.5
1998 +6.5
1999 +5.5
2000 +9.0
2001 +9.0
2002 +8.0
2003 +7.0
2004 +6.0
2005 +5.0
2006 +5.0
2007 +2.5
2008 +2.5
2009 +2.5
2010 +1.0
2011 +0.0

RayBan-Sematra · Post #9 » by **RayBan-Sematra** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:50 pm

1993 +5.0
1994 +6.5
1995 +8.0
1996 +7.0
1997 +7.0
1998 +9.0
1999 +7.5
2000 +10.0
2001 +9.5
2002 +9.0
2003 +9.0
2004 +7.5
2005 +5.5
2006 +6.0

colts18 · Post #10 » by **colts18** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:26 pm

ElGee wrote:
colts18 wrote:I assume we aren't supposed to take his injuries into account. Should I judge him by his playoff form?

Do you have the in/out Sri data for Shaq? There is a large sample size of games missed for him

Yes I will post all the related information shortly. You are NOT suppose to take into account missed time in the RS. You ARE supposed to judge him by his end of the season form ("playoffs" -- although I shy away from that word because some people only end up playing 3 playoff game and I want you to judge based on how he his playing at the end of the year...April, May, June...is he healthy, how well is he playing?

I need clarification if I should consider end of regular season Shaq or the 100% motivated playoff form Shaq. Because thats a huge difference. Its really fair to consider 100% Shaq when he was 100% motivated for basically 3 seasons of his careers.

Narigo · Post #11 » by **Narigo** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:33 am

1993- +3.5
1994- +6.0
1995- +6.0
1996- +5.5
1997- +4.5
1998- +6.5
1999- +5.5
2000- +8.0
2001- +7.5
2002- +7.0
2003- +6.0
2004- +5.5
2005- +5.5
2006- +4.5
2007- +3.5
2008- +2.0
2009- +2.5
2010- +1.0
2011- 0

ElGee · Post #12 » by **ElGee** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:49 pm

colts18 wrote:
ElGee wrote:
colts18 wrote:I assume we aren't supposed to take his injuries into account. Should I judge him by his playoff form?

Do you have the in/out Sri data for Shaq? There is a large sample size of games missed for him

Yes I will post all the related information shortly. You are NOT suppose to take into account missed time in the RS. You ARE supposed to judge him by his end of the season form ("playoffs" -- although I shy away from that word because some people only end up playing 3 playoff game and I want you to judge based on how he his playing at the end of the year...April, May, June...is he healthy, how well is he playing?

I need clarification if I should consider end of regular season Shaq or the 100% motivated playoff form Shaq. Because thats a huge difference. Its really fair to consider 100% Shaq when he was 100% motivated for basically 3 seasons of his careers.

100% motivated Shaq.

Gregoire · Post #13 » by **Gregoire** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:01 am

The thread was dead?

Gregoire · Post #14 » by **Gregoire** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:11 am

1993 +5.0
1994 +6.5
1995 +8.0
1996 +6.5
1997 +6.5
1998 +6.5
1999 +7.5
2000 +9.0
2001 +9.0
2002 +8.5
2003 +8.0
2004 +8.0
2005 +6.0
2006 +5.0
2007 - 3.5
2008 - 3.0
2009 - 1.0
2010- 0.5
2011 - 0

ceiling raiser · Post #15 » by **ceiling raiser** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:42 am

In SRS:

1993 +6.5
1994 +7.0
1995 +7.5
1996 +7.5
1997 +8.5
1998 +7.5
1999 +7.0
2000 +10.0
2001 +10.0
2002 +8.0
2003 +7.5
2004 +6.0
2005 +5.5
2006 +5.0
2007 +3.0
2008 +3.5
2009 +3.5
2010 +3.0
2011 +2.0

EDIT: Updated 11/13/13