Trade Thread (REVENGE OF THE NERDS II: NERDS IN PARADISE)

Onus · Post #261 » by **Onus** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:53 am

i didn't say that we agreed who would be better in 3 or 4 years but that klay has more value than barnes does right now, which you clearly restated.

Mylie10 · Post #262 » by **Mylie10** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:05 am

Onus wrote:i didn't say that we agreed who would be better in 3 or 4 years but that klay has more value than barnes does right now, which you clearly restated.

Fair enough.

cj03 · Post #263 » by **cj03** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:01 am

Onus wrote:i feel like we have enough assets already 30 mil in expiring, 2 promising prospects, and our pick.

You think we have enough assets to really be a championship contender? Keep in mind we'll only have 20 mil cap space with 6 guys in the fold for 2014...Being 40 mil under the luxury tax threshold is very different from being 40 mil under the actual cap. I suppose we have Bird Rights to Bogut, but there's no guarantee we want to keep him considering his injury history. So basically 6 guys take up 35 mil, and we only have 20 mil to sign free agents outside of our team. Perhaps a sign and trade may be possible...any way I see it we have to get rid of Lee.

Coxy · Post #264 » by **Coxy** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:49 am

Lee for Gordon/Biyombo

Do we need to add anything to that?

Then

Klay/Jefferson/XXXX for Love? Not sure what we need to add there..........

Steph/Jack
Rush/Gordon/Jack
Barnes/Rush
Love/Biyombo
Bogut/Ezeli/Biedrins

Sexy team.

Left*My*Heart · Post #265 » by **Left*My*Heart** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:04 pm

I don't want Love. We knock Lee's defense, but Love isn't much better if at all. In the MIT Sloan sports Conference, Love was ranked 48th out of 50 players that were evaluated in post defense.

Onus · Post #266 » by **Onus** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:09 pm

cj03 wrote:
Onus wrote:i feel like we have enough assets already 30 mil in expiring, 2 promising prospects, and our pick.

You think we have enough assets to really be a championship contender? Keep in mind we'll only have 20 mil cap space with 6 guys in the fold for 2014...Being 40 mil under the luxury tax threshold is very different from being 40 mil under the actual cap. I suppose we have Bird Rights to Bogut, but there's no guarantee we want to keep him considering his injury history. So basically 6 guys take up 35 mil, and we only have 20 mil to sign free agents outside of our team. Perhaps a sign and trade may be possible...any way I see it we have to get rid of Lee.

To make a trade for a difference maker should the chance arise.

Jester_ · Post #267 » by **Jester_** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:35 pm

Left*My*Heart wrote:I don't want Love. We knock Lee's defense, but Love isn't much better if at all. In the MIT Sloan sports Conference, Love was ranked 48th out of 50 players that were evaluated in post defense.

Love is a better defender than Lee and a significantly better offensive player and rebounder. Huge upgrade.

TaylorMonkey · Post #268 » by **TaylorMonkey** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:37 pm

Jester_ wrote:
Left*My*Heart wrote:I don't want Love. We knock Lee's defense, but Love isn't much better if at all. In the MIT Sloan sports Conference, Love was ranked 48th out of 50 players that were evaluated in post defense.

Love is a better defender than Lee and a significantly better offensive player and rebounder. Huge upgrade.

I don't think Love's "better" defense is that significant.

Lee's a much better passer though. But Love's rebounding has more impact. At least he boxes out.

whocurrz · Post #269 » by **whocurrz** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:43 pm

Maybe there is something to be made with Milwaukee. Lee would fit well next to their other bigs who are offensively limited and gives them an allstar.

Lee + Draymond +2015 pick for Ilyasova, Henson, Moute.

Ilyasova started out the year slow but has really turned it on lately after Skiles left. We get a stretch 4 can rebound and is a better defender than Lee, a backup big in Henson and solid perimeter defender in Moute.

Let Landry walk and bring back Jack and we are improved team with better assets. Ilyasova has a longer contract than Lee but is young and should benefit from having a much more talented surrounding cast on offense than he has on the Bucks.

Quazza · Post #270 » by **Quazza** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:46 pm

No way Hammond does that. After the Harris trade/fiasco, he knows he'd be lynched if he traded Henson for anything less than a superstar

Left*My*Heart · Post #271 » by **Left*My*Heart** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:56 pm

Jester_ wrote:
Left*My*Heart wrote:I don't want Love. We knock Lee's defense, but Love isn't much better if at all. In the MIT Sloan sports Conference, Love was ranked 48th out of 50 players that were evaluated in post defense.

Love is a better defender than Lee and a significantly better offensive player and rebounder. Huge upgrade.

Completely disagree that Love is significantly better defensively and I don't think he is that much of an upgrade offensively either.

Aldridge and Bosh are the kind of PFs we need. I don't see the Warriors going anywhere with Love manning the 4 and the 5, just like with Lee. You will still need a solid defensive center with Love and I'm not sold on Bogut's health.

AussieBuck · Post #272 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:05 pm

Hammond would be dumb enough to do Lee for Ersan and Udoh IMO. That would make the Warriors sexy as hell.

cj03 · Post #273 » by **cj03** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:15 pm

Obviously Henson would be nicer to have than Udoh, but I would totally take either deal for Lee. Besides, the Bucks already have a long, skinny, athletic, lower skilled big in Sanders. Why have both? You can't really play both at the same time.

whocurrz · Post #274 » by **whocurrz** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:42 pm

I think Hammond would possibly do it. Depends on how much faith they have in Ilyasova, but they have no consistent offensive players in their front court. Pairing Lee with Sanders Udoh works and gets them out of Ilyasova's longer contract.

Udoh is definitely more acquirable than Henson, but in that case I wouldn't throw in a future 1st.

DreDay · Post #275 » by **DreDay** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:49 pm

Left*My*Heart wrote:
Jester_ wrote:
Left*My*Heart wrote:I don't want Love. We knock Lee's defense, but Love isn't much better if at all. In the MIT Sloan sports Conference, Love was ranked 48th out of 50 players that were evaluated in post defense.

Love is a better defender than Lee and a significantly better offensive player and rebounder. Huge upgrade.

Completely disagree that Love is significantly better defensively and I don't think he is that much of an upgrade offensively either.

Aldridge and Bosh are the kind of PFs we need. I don't see the Warriors going anywhere with Love manning the 4 and the 5, just like with Lee. You will still need a solid defensive center with Love and I'm not sold on Bogut's health.

With Bosh this team can go to the WCF and contend. I'm not even joking. Bosh has every tool as an offensive player, and a Curry/Bosh PNR would be unstoppable as Bosh is the best mid range shooter and Lee misses too many. Not to mention Bosh plays defense as well.

As for the Milwaukee deal, ill do it easily. It's time for GSW to feast on poor FOs like teams were doing to them before.

GSForever · Post #276 » by **GSForever** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:47 pm

I'd happily take both Bosh and Udoh next year. Might give up some pts in the paint. But you wouldn't be able to guard the pick and roll. Curry hits the J everytime

GSForever · Post #277 » by **GSForever** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:48 pm

I'd happily take both Bosh and Udoh next year. Might give up some pts in the paint. But you wouldn't be able to guard the pick and roll. Curry hits the J everytime

cj03 · Post #278 » by **cj03** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:33 am

Bosh would be acquired in the 2014 offseason. But I agree oaklandwarriors, he's basically Lee with a better jumper and much better D. He is getting older, but bigs tend to age better than wings, so that's why he would be my pick over Wade or another wing.

Coxy · Post #279 » by **Coxy** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:53 am

cj03 wrote:Bosh would be acquired in the 2014 offseason. But I agree oaklandwarriors, he's basically Lee with a better jumper and much better D. He is getting older, but bigs tend to age better than wings, so that's why he would be my pick over Wade or another wing.

Wouldn't go near Wade now. He's ageing like a 2 yr old opened carton of semi skimmed banana flavored milk.

EvanZ · Post #280 » by **EvanZ** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:19 pm

Coxy wrote:
cj03 wrote:Bosh would be acquired in the 2014 offseason. But I agree oaklandwarriors, he's basically Lee with a better jumper and much better D. He is getting older, but bigs tend to age better than wings, so that's why he would be my pick over Wade or another wing.

Wouldn't go near Wade now. He's ageing like a 2 yr old opened carton of semi skimmed banana flavored milk.

except he had a great season