OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon

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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#321 » by LakerFanMan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:27 pm

Antrim wrote:They absolutely are going to catch whoever did this. They already have someone in custody and have searched an apartment. I wouldn't be surprised if by today we all knew who did this.


The guy they have in custody is some guy someone saw "running from the scene after the explosion" and tackled. It aired on a bunch of new channels last night. Apparently, he saw him "doing something suspicious" than running from the scene after the bomb went off. I wouldn't get my hopes up on that one, but you never really know.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#322 » by Pimpwerx » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:33 pm

Antrim wrote:They absolutely are going to catch whoever did this. They already have someone in custody and have searched an apartment. I wouldn't be surprised if by today we all knew who did this.

I don't even think we had the identities of the 9/11 bombers that quickly. Apparently, the feebs held their presser and announced...nothing. They don't have undetonated bombs, and I don't believe they have a suspect in custody. They have a person of interest, but I don't think he's been confirmed to be in custody right now.

When you think about it, what would be used to find the person? Cameras would have to be in the perfect place to capture a face. It's more likely they get that picture from eyewitness cameras than from security or surveillance cams. If the bomber used gloves and sterilized, there's not gonna be fingerprints or enough DNA to trace. If the bomber isn't even in the national database, then it wouldn't even matter. There are too many variables. They'd have a chance if it was remote-detonated by cellphone, because they can trace all the calls to and from the nearby towers. I believe they might even be able to triangulate the location of the suspicious calls, and then track down camera images from that location. However, I don't expect it. I don't mind being wrong here, but I'm not keeping my hopes up. PEACE.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#323 » by sir G Wallace » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:39 pm

Every case is different. There is a reason why they have investigators, FBI and CIA employed. Different cases have different evidence so lets not act like it is any use to predict if there is going to be any legitimate arrests or whatever.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#324 » by Pimpwerx » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:47 pm

sir G Wallace wrote:Every case is different. There is a reason why they have investigators, FBI and CIA employed. Different cases have different evidence so lets not act like it is any use to predict if there is going to be any legitimate arrests or whatever.

Short of the bomber being a moron, forensic evidence is gonna be at a minimum. It doesn't preclude tips or the emergence of some lucky cameraman, but for the most part, stuff like this can't be traced.

I don't think I'm speculating much here. There are countless bombs recovered and disposed of each year, in this country. I'd like to believe they catch most of the people behind them, but I find that really hard to believe. PEACE.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#325 » by Antrim » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:51 pm

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sir G Wallace wrote:Every case is different. There is a reason why they have investigators, FBI and CIA employed. Different cases have different evidence so lets not act like it is any use to predict if there is going to be any legitimate arrests or whatever.

Short of the bomber being a moron, forensic evidence is gonna be at a minimum. It doesn't preclude tips or the emergence of some lucky cameraman, but for the most part, stuff like this can't be traced.

I don't think I'm speculating much here. There are countless bombs recovered and disposed of each year, in this country. I'd like to believe they catch most of the people behind them, but I find that really hard to believe. PEACE.


This one wasn't recovered and disposed, it killed at least 3 people and injured over 150+ during a public celebration. Every single law enforcement agency is using its resources to find whoever is responsible of this. It will happen, sooner rather than later.

What's the last terrorist attack where the attackers were not identified? I can't recall any, besides maybe Madrid.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#326 » by Flash4thewin » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:53 pm

Have any groups or organizations claimed credit for the attack?
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#327 » by Duffman100 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:13 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:Have any groups or organizations claimed credit for the attack?


I don't think so. In fact, I read somewhere that Pakistani Al-Qaeda said they had no involvement.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#328 » by TankCommander » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:28 pm

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Hook_Em wrote:What if they don't catch the people who did this??


Obama's already promised that they would punish someone. Since most Americans seem to care about this much more than the closure of Guantanamo Bay, he might follow through on this promise. I think someone will go down soon - whether it's the guilty party or not.


they couldn't close guantanamo because congress voted to block any funding for it, when you have a clear divide of the executive and legislative branch the president's power is limited (well at least compared to the parliamentary style we have in Canada).
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#329 » by LLJ » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:31 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:Have any groups or organizations claimed credit for the attack?


Everyone's looking for some terror group, it would be a bitter pill for the public to swallow if it ended up being just some crazy teenaged kid who made a homemade bomb for kicks.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#330 » by Flash3 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:53 pm

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I agree, this looks more like a crazy person just trying to kill innocent ppl

Whether it be related to an attack from overseas or someone who's white, born in the states....it's still referred to as an act or terrorism.[/quote]

The Newton shooting wasn't. The Movie Theater shooting wasn't. They weren't deemed terrorist acts - but instead acts by people who have mental issues.

It's a double standard.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#331 » by ceremony816 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:00 pm

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He was looking away and walking away from that scene and that sound.
"What would be the purpose of being on the roof anyways" That would be my first question too.

Rooftop is good for signal and coordination.


Coordinate what? "Ok light the fuse now!!!"
Do you know how IED's are detonated?


Uhhhh, do you? The complex ones are detonated via cell phone or radio. Sometimes there is a spotter/distraction to signal when to detonate. Not sure what kind of IED encounters you've had.

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Pretty sure he was stating the obvious. You don't need to be on a roofto "coordinate" something you can do with a cell phone. And since the event is televised it's not like you couldn't do it from your living room.[/quote]

No but to say it was fused is absurd. No modern day bomb is going to be detonated via fuse, especially something like this.

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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#332 » by theokie » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:02 pm

Flash3 wrote:
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I agree, this looks more like a crazy person just trying to kill innocent ppl

Whether it be related to an attack from overseas or someone who's white, born in the states....it's still referred to as an act or terrorism.


The Newton shooting wasn't. The Movie Theater shooting wasn't. They weren't deemed terrorist acts - but instead acts by people who have mental issues.

It's a double standard.


OKC bombing was done by a white American, and labeled a terrorist attack. Don't see the double standard applying there. Same with Ted Kacyznski, the unabomber, US citizen, labeled a terrorist.

Acts of terror and acts performed by mentally disturbed teenagers have significantly different agendas and purpose behind what they do, or try to do. Like some kind of political or religious reason, as opposed to wanting to merely take your own life and put other people in pain on the way out.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#333 » by mopper8 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:04 pm

Terrorism suggests some sort of political or social agenda. Hence why OKC bomber would be considered a terrorist but the guy from Newtown wouldn't. It's unclear whether the marathon bomber(s) had any agenda at all, so labeling it a terrorist attack would be premature IMO
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#334 » by bigbadstevenson » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:33 pm

TankCommander wrote:
bigbadstevenson wrote:
Hook_Em wrote:What if they don't catch the people who did this??


Obama's already promised that they would punish someone. Since most Americans seem to care about this much more than the closure of Guantanamo Bay, he might follow through on this promise. I think someone will go down soon - whether it's the guilty party or not.


they couldn't close guantanamo because congress voted to block any funding for it, when you have a clear divide of the executive and legislative branch the president's power is limited (well at least compared to the parliamentary style we have in Canada).


Presumably, Obama understood that there might be obstacles to fulfilling his promise. He made it anyway, and it probably got him some votes. I'm sure that he was expecting it to.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#335 » by CB-Blazer » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:45 pm

Presumably, Obama understood that there might be obstacles to fulfilling his promise. He made it anyway, and it probably got him some votes. I'm sure that he was expecting it to.


Didn't he say the same thing about Benghazi?

Either way, I can't think of an instance where something as terrible as has happened during any presidency that didn't yield similar comments.

However, I think we will catch the persons, if you look at similar instances in US history; we always have.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#336 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:08 pm

Hi everyone, live in Boston. The roof picture isn't anything. Every year people who are residents of that building use that roof access to watch the parade. The bomb that went off was at the front door of that same building. That's a residential building, peoples homes.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#337 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:09 pm

Hi everyone, live in Boston. The roof picture isn't anything. Every year people who are residents of that building use that roof access to watch the parade. The bomb that went off was at the front door of that same building. That's a residential building, peoples homes.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#338 » by Th3RaptorSwag » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:44 pm

The Associated Press reports that the bombs "were fashioned out of pressure cookers and packed with shards of metal, nails and ball bearings ... the explosives were put in 6-liter pressure cookers, placed in black duffel bags and left on the ground. They were packed with shrapnel."

Wow..

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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#339 » by Dirkules » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:51 pm

Antrim wrote:
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Hook_Em wrote:What if they don't catch the people who did this??

You mean, what if the most-likely scenario unfolds? Nothing, man. Unless this was a remote-detonated device, via cellphone, I don't see how they can trace this. Security cam video of a person(s) making those drops is unlikely o give a detailed enough image to ID the one(s) at fault. Unfortunately, I don't expect them to ever find the ones responsible for this. I hope they do, though. PEACE.


They absolutely are going to catch whoever did this. They already have someone in custody and have searched an apartment. I wouldn't be surprised if by today we all knew who did this.


Looks to me like they're just grasping at straws. Just saw on the news that they're now offering a $50,000 reward for info leading to a capture. Can't ever recall a situation like this where a reward was offered if they didn't at least have some solid leads. I've seen enough shows on TV like, "The First 48" to know that once they start asking the public to help, they're starting to get desperate. I wouldn't be surprised if by this time tomorrow the reward was doubled and we'll have an FBI spokesperson on national tv asking the public for help.

I think that eventually the person(s) responsible will be caught but I think it's going to be more like the bombing in Atlanta during the 96 olympics. It will take them awhile to actually know the suspect(s) and even longer to catch them. I think we're in for the long haul on this one.
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Re: OT: Bombing / Explosions at the Boston Marathon 

Post#340 » by Paradise » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:14 pm

Th3RaptorSwag wrote:The Associated Press reports that the bombs "were fashioned out of pressure cookers and packed with shards of metal, nails and ball bearings ... the explosives were put in 6-liter pressure cookers, placed in black duffel bags and left on the ground. They were packed with shrapnel."

Wow..

Condolences for the losses, praying for Boston.


It seems more and more like a bunch of disgraceful american citizens who want to ruin an event where people are celebrating Patriots Day. They probably know this so they will treat it as a terrorist attack to scare someone into coming out from hiding to lessen the severity.

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