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Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III

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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#801 » by stevemcqueen1 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:12 pm

nate33 wrote:His mock also has Detroit with the #7 and us with the #8. Has that coin flip actually taken place yet?

It really might suck because in several scenarios, Detroit took Bennett one pick before us, sticking us with Shabazz.


I haven't seen anything about the coin flip yet.

I wouldn't cry if we ended up with Shabazz at 8. Hopefully he'd come in and keep his head down and just play his role. He could help us right away as the go to scorer off the bench plus provide injury insurance for Martell and Beal. Bazz + Beal + Webster + Ariza is four excellent wings.

But I still want a good big man the most. If we don't get one, I think we had better pray that Seraphin or Vesely turn their careers around because it's going to be hard to find a cheap good big outside the draft, and Okafor and Nene get hurt.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#802 » by pancakes3 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:14 pm

I'm assuming that Wall, Webster, and Wittman all want that 2-way stretch PF which is really a no-duh. However the problem comes in the execution. Nobody will trade a good PF for our crappy PFs even if there was a mid-lotto pick involved.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#803 » by MikeTheKid » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:15 pm

thinker07 wrote:Exit interview quotes from Wall, Martell, and Wittman all spoke to the need for more veterans NOT rookies. Could it be 2009 all over again???


Hearing Witt on 106.7 yesterday evening with Lavar and Chad it sounds like they will definitely use the Lotto pick on Bennett or Otto, Witt likes them to compliment Wall and Beal and possibly the 2nd rounders get traded or something like that. But of course this is EG running the draft so we'll probably trade the 1st to Philly for Kwame Brown and Lavoy Allen.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#804 » by FAH1223 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:30 pm

thinker07 wrote:Exit interview quotes from Wall, Martell, and Wittman all spoke to the need for more veterans NOT rookies. Could it be 2009 all over again???


The Wizards will have another lottery pick in the NBA draft, but Wittman and several of his players, including Wall, all felt that Washington needed to add another veteran rather than focus on developing another prospect. Wall is also looking to cash in on a season in which he established career highs in scoring (18.5 points per game) and field goal percentage (44.1). He is eligible for a contract extension this summer before becoming a restricted free agent in the summer of 2014 and is seeking a five-year, maximum-contract deal.


It sure looks like it. :x
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Post#805 » by No-Man » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:50 pm

Players I'd love to trade for using the pick and maybe expirings.

Horford
Jeff Green
Gallinari
Pau Gasol
Ryan Anderson
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#806 » by verbal8 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:52 pm

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TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Would love for the Wizards to take Norvel Pelle with one of our 2nd round picks. Kid reminds me of Deandre Jordan. Would be a decent big to have in the rotation a year or two from now.

Can't find anything on him, other than 6'10" and under 200 lbs. Was Jordan that skinny when he came in? Did Pelle even play?


Here is his story:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the ... ncaab.html
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#807 » by FAH1223 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:06 pm

Fischella wrote:Players I'd love to trade for using the pick and maybe expirings.

Horford
Jeff Green
Gallinari
Pau Gasol
Ryan Anderson


Pau Gasol is a free agent in 2014 and he'll be turning 34 then.

All the others are young though. And I doubt they get traded for a pick in one of the worst drafts ever.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#808 » by theboomking » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:24 pm

I just played the ESPN lotto, and they seem to have our preferences ranked as Porter, Bennett, Len, Shabazz, Oladipo.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#809 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:55 pm

montestewart wrote:
TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Would love for the Wizards to take Norvel Pelle with one of our 2nd round picks. Kid reminds me of Deandre Jordan. Would be a decent big to have in the rotation a year or two from now.

Can't find anything on him, other than 6'10" and under 200 lbs. Was Jordan that skinny when he came in? Did Pelle even play?



He was the number one center in the 2011 class. He didn't play college ball because he was academically ineligible but he has been working with a trainer. The kid is a raw but his best case scenario is Deandre Jordan. We have to keep drafting bigs and hope a few of them pan out.

Sadly now it looks like the Wizards will try to trade the pick for a veteran. That would be a bad move. We are a 29 win team, not a veteran away from being a championship contender. EG needs to be fired soon, i'm nervous about the draft and us trading or blowing the pick.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#810 » by forbes20 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:04 pm

Why is there a coin toss with Detroit? Yes, we have the same record, but we lost all 4 games to Detroit this year. What is the tie breaker?
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#811 » by forbes20 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:06 pm

Why is there a coin toss with Detroit? Yes, we have the same record, but we lost all 4 games to Detroit this year. What is the tie breaker?
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#812 » by Benjammin » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:14 pm

forbes20 wrote:Why is there a coin toss with Detroit? Yes, we have the same record, but we lost all 4 games to Detroit this year. What is the tie breaker?


Coin toss. That's just the way they do it.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#813 » by miller31time » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:35 pm

Even if we lose the coin-toss, it's not the worst thing in the world.

Pretty sure last time we lost a coin toss, it was with the Clippers -- and we ended up with John Wall.
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Post#814 » by mg » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:41 pm

Also New Orleans lost their coin flip last year but still ended up winning the lottery.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#815 » by sfam » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:48 pm

Up until recently, Leonsis's perspective was to build through the draft (up until the Flip Forsberg for Martin Erat trade on the Caps). I really hope we stay with the draft pick, but you have to wonder if Vesely's pick has soured him some on this. I still think Bennett is the right move here. You get a rookie salary for the next few years, and a potential star to boot.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#816 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:14 pm

sfam wrote:Up until recently, Leonsis's perspective was to build through the draft (up until the Flip Forsberg for Martin Erat trade on the Caps). I really hope we stay with the draft pick, but you have to wonder if Vesely's pick has soured him some on this. I still think Bennett is the right move here. You get a rookie salary for the next few years, and a potential star to boot.



Yep, I hope to heck that they don't trade the pick. This draft is, imo, underrated. There certainly isn't the kind of franchise-changing star at the top. In fact, I kind of hope we don't get the #1 because I'm not sold on Noel at all. I haven't seen enough out of him to say with any kind of confidence that he'll ever develop a good offensive game.

But, I really like some of the guys mentioned in the 4-8 range.

I'd be very happy with Burke, Len or Porter. I'd be out-of-my-skin excited if we could figure out a way to get one of them plus McDermott later.

I am very concerned about the coin flip because I could very well see Burke, Len, Porter all going in the 4-7 range.

Of course tempering all of my enthusiasm is the fact that we have Ernie Grunfail making the pick. There is NOTHING in his track record to suggest that he's ever done better than achieve par (except Michael Redd).
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#817 » by fishercob » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:19 pm

sfam wrote:Up until recently, Leonsis's perspective was to build through the draft (up until the Flip Forsberg for Martin Erat trade on the Caps). I really hope we stay with the draft pick, but you have to wonder if Vesely's pick has soured him some on this. I still think Bennett is the right move here. You get a rookie salary for the next few years, and a potential star to boot.


I think it's important to not be dogmatic about any course to add talent. Be nimble and prepared to act on any opportunity that comes your way. Saying "we're going to build through the draft" is potentially very limiting. It should all depend on the situation.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#818 » by FAH1223 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:23 pm

miller31time wrote:Even if we lose the coin-toss, it's not the worst thing in the world.

Pretty sure last time we lost a coin toss, it was with the Clippers -- and we ended up with John Wall.


No, we won the coin flip with the Clippers in 2009... however, we ended up with the #5 pick while LAC got the #1 and drafted Blake Griffin.

And of course we know what happened with the #5 pick.

Wall came the next year in 2010.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#819 » by sfam » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:25 pm

fishercob wrote:
sfam wrote:Up until recently, Leonsis's perspective was to build through the draft (up until the Flip Forsberg for Martin Erat trade on the Caps). I really hope we stay with the draft pick, but you have to wonder if Vesely's pick has soured him some on this. I still think Bennett is the right move here. You get a rookie salary for the next few years, and a potential star to boot.


I think it's important to not be dogmatic about any course to add talent. Be nimble and prepared to act on any opportunity that comes your way. Saying "we're going to build through the draft" is potentially very limiting. It should all depend on the situation.

Building through the draft implies they will spend more resources on scouting and player development. If they do this, its not that limiting. If, instead, its just a jingle or throw-away line, then yeah, I agree, they should be very flexible, since they wouldn't be spending the resources to build through the draft.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III 

Post#820 » by The Consiglieri » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:43 pm

theboomking wrote:I just played the ESPN lotto, and they seem to have our preferences ranked as Porter, Bennett, Len, Shabazz, Oladipo.


That works for me. :) Actually sounds like we kind of have a clue, which is rather different. Hoping we win the coin toss and move up to top 3. Winning the coin toss is pretty big, probably gives us our choice among 2-3 options nearly we all like to some extent.

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