If you took over as GM today, what would you do?

[Ruzious]

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Like it, but wouldn't mind hanging onto Booker, especially with the nene-injured risk. Wonder what other value could be offered.

We are under the cap so we can take back up to 150% of outgoing salary. We would only need to send out $5.5M. Vesely + Seraphin alone is enough. Booker doesn't need to be included. Better yet, make it Vesely + SIngleton + a resigned minimum salary vet like Cartier Martin.

I really would like to get back a mid or late first rounder though. I wonder if Milwaukee would make the same trade with Ilyasova where we send out #7 + Vesely and Seraphin for Milwaukee's #15 and Ilyasova. We then draft McCollum at #15.

PG Wall/McCollum
SG Beal/McCollum
SF Webster/Ariza
PF Ilyasova/Booker
C Okafor/Nene

I don't think that's true. If we're under the cap, it's by pennies, and that 150% rule applies only if you remain under the cap after the trade. And if you're right that they're under, then they won't have the MLE to use to sign Webster.

Besides that, players like Vesely and Seraphin likely have minimal trade value and again - Milwaukee is very unlikely to trade Ilyasova. They need him or someone who does what he does. They have zero use for a Vesely or Seraphin. If the Wiz wanted Ilyasova, they should have made an offer when he was a UFA last offseason.

[nate33]

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Like it, but wouldn't mind hanging onto Booker, especially with the nene-injured risk. Wonder what other value could be offered.

We are under the cap so we can take back up to 150% of outgoing salary. We would only need to send out $5.5M. Vesely + Seraphin alone is enough. Booker doesn't need to be included. Better yet, make it Vesely + SIngleton + a resigned minimum salary vet like Cartier Martin.

I really would like to get back a mid or late first rounder though. I wonder if Milwaukee would make the same trade with Ilyasova where we send out #7 + Vesely and Seraphin for Milwaukee's #15 and Ilyasova. We then draft McCollum at #15.

PG Wall/McCollum
SG Beal/McCollum
SF Webster/Ariza
PF Ilyasova/Booker
C Okafor/Nene

I don't think that's true. If we're under the cap, it's by pennies, and that 150% rule applies only if you remain under the cap after the trade. And if you're right that they're under, then they won't have the MLE to use to sign Webster.

Besides that, players like Vesely and Seraphin likely have minimal trade value and again - Milwaukee is very unlikely to trade Ilyasova. They need him or someone who does what he does. They have zero use for a Vesely or Seraphin. If the Wiz wanted Ilyasova, they should have made an offer when he was a UFA last offseason.

I meant under the luxtax, not under the cap. The exception is 150% as long as you stay under the luxtax after the deal is complete. If we take on the extra $2M in Vesely + Seraphin for Ilyasova swap, we will still be under the luxtax by a country mile.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Was hoping someone with good knowledge of the cap could run down this scenario and see if it's a plausible cap scenario.


1st pick #8 (center; Len, Dieng, Zeller)
2nd pick #37 (stretch 4; McDermott, Murphy)
3rd pick sold for cash

Resign Webster MLE. Resign Price & Barbosa vet min.

Okafor, Len, Seraphin
Nene, Booker, Vesely, McDermott
Ariza, Webster, Singleton
Beal, Barbosa, Temple
Wall, Price

[hands11]

Was hoping someone with good knowledge of the cap could run down this scenario and see if it's a plausible cap scenario.


1st pick #8 (center; Len, Dieng, Withey)
2nd pick #37 (Muscala)
3rd pick Murphy, Pierre or Wolters

Resign Webster MLE. Resign Price ? ( maybe ) & Barbosa vet min (maybe).

Okafor, Len, Seraphin
Nene, Booker, Muscala
Ariza, Webster
Beal, Barbosa, Temple
Wall, Temple

Updated more to my liking

Lots of ways to get this done. Very fluid situation. Of course I like CJM, Otto, VO as well. Hard for me to see Otto landing here though. Just to other more important needs. No reason they can't keep Trevor A and Webster around 3 more years. They are only 26/27


Wall exist interview.
http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... ec17ed0000

Nene exit interview
http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... ec17ed0000

Looking forward to see more of these from Beal, Webster, Trevor A, etc.

[nate33]

Was hoping someone with good knowledge of the cap could run down this scenario and see if it's a plausible cap scenario.


1st pick #8 (center; Len, Dieng, Zeller)
2nd pick #37 (stretch 4; McDermott, Murphy)
3rd pick sold for cash

Resign Webster MLE. Resign Price & Barbosa vet min.

Okafor, Len, Seraphin
Nene, Booker, Vesely, McDermott
Ariza, Webster, Singleton
Beal, Barbosa, Temple
Wall, Price

Yes. That easily fits under the luxtax threshold. If we decline the 4th year option on Vesely's contract, we could set ourselves up for max contract in 2014 (we'd have to let Okafor, Ariza and Seraphin walk though). By max contract, I mean max for a guy coming off the rookie scale (just under $14M in Year 1). A max for a 7-year player would still be out of our range.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Was hoping someone with good knowledge of the cap could run down this scenario and see if it's a plausible cap scenario.


1st pick #8 (center; Len, Dieng, Zeller)
2nd pick #37 (stretch 4; McDermott, Murphy)
3rd pick sold for cash

Resign Webster MLE. Resign Price & Barbosa vet min.

Okafor, Len, Seraphin
Nene, Booker, Vesely, McDermott
Ariza, Webster, Singleton
Beal, Barbosa, Temple
Wall, Price

Yes. That easily fits under the luxtax threshold. If we decline the 4th year option on Vesely's contract, we could set ourselves up for max contract in 2014 (we'd have to let Okafor, Ariza and Seraphin walk though). By max contract, I mean max for a guy coming off the rookie scale (just under $14M in Year 1). A max for a 7-year player would still be out of our range.

Thanks Nate, that sounds pretty good to me. I'm really diggin this as a basic course of action. It's not doing much, keeping things as is for the most part. This team was playing good once Wall came back. Let's add some pieces here and there, and keep some future flexibility open.

I like the idea of trying to get our center of the future with our 1st rounder. Len is topping my list, but others are worth consideration IMO such as Dieng, Zeller, Withey, Adams.

At 37 I think we can get a good shooter for the stretch 4 off the bench, McDermott, Murphy, Kelly are candidates.

That's probably enough rookies... sell the later 2nd rounder, or maybe a draft-n-stash scenario.

Re-sign F/G Webster is important. Price and Barbosa are vets that could provide valuable depth behind Wall and Beal in the backcourt.

Summer 2014 add another draft pick and hopefully has some decent cap space to bring in a good young player entering prime to add to our established core.

By that time we could be a team coming off a playoff appearance, a good solid foundation in place, still a lot of up and coming youth, and decent cap space.

[Dat2U]

My fantasy offseason:

Wizards trade 8th pick (2013 draft) & Emeka Okafor to Kings for:
DeMarcus Cousins & Marcus Thornton

Wizards draft Doug McDermott & Isaiah Canaan.

Wizards trade Trevor Ariza & Kevin Seraphin to Jazz for:
Paul Millsap (S&T)

Wizards trade Nene to Clippers for:
Eric Bledsoe & Caron Butler

Wizards sign Martell Webster & ZaZa Pachulia

New roster:

C DeMarcus Cousins / ZaZa Pachulia
F Paul Millsap / Trevor Booker / Doug McDermott / Chris Singleton / Jan Vesely
F Martell Webster / Caron Butler
F Bradley Beal / Marcus Thornton
G John Wall / Eric Bledsoe / Isaiah Canaan

[nate33]

My fantasy offseason:

Wizards trade 8th pick (2013 draft) & Emeka Okafor to Kings for:
DeMarcus Cousins & Marcus Thornton

Wizards draft Doug McDermott & Isaiah Canaan.

Wizards trade Trevor Ariza & Kevin Seraphin to Jazz for:
Paul Millsap (S&T)

Wizards trade Nene to Clippers for:
Eric Bledsoe & Caron Butler

Wizards sign Martell Webster & ZaZa Pachulia

New roster:

C DeMarcus Cousins / ZaZa Pachulia
F Paul Millsap / Trevor Booker / Doug McDermott / Chris Singleton / Jan Vesely
F Martell Webster / Caron Butler
F Bradley Beal / Marcus Thornton
G John Wall / Eric Bledsoe / Isaiah Canaan

I like most of it. We don't have the cap room for both Webster and Pachulia so it would have to be one or the other. Frankly, just do that first trade for Cousins and the rest is details.

After making the Cousins trade, I think I'd want to keep Nene around for another season or at least a half-season so he can help keep Cousins in line. I don't think he has the trade value to land Bledsoe anyhow, not unless he comes back healthy first.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Yes, nate, I agree. Dat, your first deal is great. That is enough trading, right there.

I think you add too much and risk ruining chemistry by having too many potent, relatively youthful, starter talents coming off the bench. Get Cousins and M. Thornton and draft McDermott. Keep Nene (unless you can trade him instead of Okafor). I think McDermott and Canaan both would prove to be very good rookies, too.

That #8 for Cousins would not be a bad way for the Wizards to go ...

[fishercob]

Yes, nate, I agree. Dat, your first deal is great. That is enough trading, right there.

I think you add too much and risk ruining chemistry by having too many potent, relatively youthful, starter talents coming off the bench. Get Cousins and M. Thornton and draft McDermott. Keep Nene (unless you can trade him instead of Okafor). I think McDermott and Canaan both would prove to be very good rookies, too.

That #8 for Cousins would not be a bad way for the Wizards to go ...

Cousins is a good target because he's someone that you could see being made available under certain circumstances. There will be a regime change in that franchise -- likley a sweeping one if Seattle wins their sale bid -- and they may want to start fresh. They'll have the latitude from fans to suck for a while because they'll just be so happy to have the team back and they may not want DMC as the face of their new franchise.

Similarly, the trade market for Cousins could be somewhat limited because of teams being unwilling to take the risk on his character issues (he is reportedly hated by some of his teammates), particularly with a large extension due soon.

I'm not even convinced the Kings would want Okafor, as he would potentially harm their epic tank efforts. They might prefer Seraphin, the pick and a smaller contract filler for COusins.

While a three-big rotation of Okafor, Nene and Cousins wouldn't solve any spacing issues, we'd beat the leaving hell out of people inside.

[hands11]

My fantasy offseason:

Wizards trade 8th pick (2013 draft) & Emeka Okafor to Kings for:
DeMarcus Cousins & Marcus Thornton

Wizards draft Doug McDermott & Isaiah Canaan.

Wizards trade Trevor Ariza & Kevin Seraphin to Jazz for:
Paul Millsap (S&T)

Wizards trade Nene to Clippers for:
Eric Bledsoe & Caron Butler

Wizards sign Martell Webster & ZaZa Pachulia

New roster:

C DeMarcus Cousins / ZaZa Pachulia
F Paul Millsap / Trevor Booker / Doug McDermott / Chris Singleton / Jan Vesely
F Martell Webster / Caron Butler
F Bradley Beal / Marcus Thornton
G John Wall / Eric Bledsoe / Isaiah Canaan

What the rule again if you sign a RFA which cousins is the following year.

[nate33]

What rule are you talking about? If you sign a RFA, you sign a RFA. The only rule I can think that applies would be the fact that Sacramento would have the right to match our offer.

[hands11]

What rule are you talking about? If you sign a RFA, you sign a RFA. The only rule I can think that applies would be the fact that Sacramento would have the right to match our offer.

Sorry. Should have been more clear in that question. Do they get draft compensation ?

If not, why not just wait on more year and get Cousin for free. He would still only be 24 and he should be more mature and developed by then.

[nate33]

No draft compensation. If Sacramento doesn't want to match, they get squat.

That said, it is sometimes the case that the team in Sacramento's position will tell Washington: "we will refrain from matching your offer if you give us a pick". At that point, it's poker. Does EG call their bluff or give up the pick?

[hands11]

No draft compensation. If Sacramento doesn't want to match, they get squat.

That said, it is sometimes the case that the team in Sacramento's position will tell Washington: "we will refrain from matching your offer if you give us a pick". At that point, it's poker. Does EG call their bluff or give up the pick?

Right.

Cousins would be stuck leaving millions on the table for one more year if he wanted to go where ever he wants after that or sign a better deal for a team he wants to leave. In which case you are back to needing to trade for him.

In the process, I guess he could make a sink and make things really uncomfortable for SAC but thats not good for anyone when that happens.

I guess for all parties involved, it a lot cleaner to just make a good offer. If they are going to match let them do it and then work a trade. Looks like they have plenty of room to match so no pressure for them really there.

It easier for the player to go where they want when they are on the backside of a good deal that is paying them well. That way they aren't leaving money on the table. At 6M, he would be leaving money on the table if he signed that last QO.

[hands11]

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2013/4/27 ... -situation

Cap break down

[Dat2U]

I really want to make a play for the 2014 draft. Here's the best suggestions I've seen so far.

Nene to Nets for Humphries & Nets 2014 1st rounder

Okafor to Blazers for Matthews, Freeland, Jeffries & 2014 1st rounder

Our 2013 1st rounder (8th overall) for a 2014 unprotected 1st rounder (depends on team... potential to swap players as well)

[montestewart]

I really want to make a play for the 2014 draft. Here's the best suggestions I've seen so far.

Nene to Nets for Humphries & Nets 2014 1st rounder

Okafor to Blazers for Matthews, Freeland, Jeffries & 2014 1st rounder

Our 2013 1st rounder (8th overall) for a 2014 unprotected 1st rounder (depends on team... potential to swap players as well)

Any of these moves would help offset what was, to me, a misguided strategy to acquire veterans. With additional picks, decent position, and decent drafting (yeah, I know that's a lot to hope for), young players would be joining a fairly veteran Wall, an apparently wise-beyond-his-years Beal, maybe Webster, and some other experienced and reasonably priced role players. That seems enough veteran depth to grow with.

[Butter]

The Blazers might be willing to take on overpaid veterans, but they definitely would not give up assets to do it. They have some decent cap space this year, but to take on high priced, aging/injury veterans, I imagine they would want compensation back.

[verbal8]

I think the Blazers might be the best option to acquire a 2014 pick. It probably would require giving up the pick this year to get a 2014 pick. I think Nene or Okafor may have some appeal to the Trailblazers. Center seems to be their big weakness.

I think the Okafor deal is fair if the 2014 pick(Okafor to Blazers for Matthews, Freeland, Jeffries & 2014 1st rounder) is lotto protected.