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This team is so poorly managed.

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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#21 » by Schad » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:47 pm

"Tommy Lasorda" isn't an anagram of "Blue Jays"


It is, however, an anagram of 'Tom's Mayo: Lard'.

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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#22 » by b0na f1de » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:56 pm

Yosemite Dan might be onto something. Gibbons teams' have consistently proven to be incompetent, and aimless at the plate. You have to ignore 2006 though, when they had a .349 wOBA (2nd in MLB) and a 14.5% k rate (3rd lowest in MLB).

If you just completely ignore that happened............Yosemite Dan makes sense at something.
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#23 » by Yosemite Dan » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:03 pm

b0na f1de wrote:Yosemite Dan might be onto something. Gibbons teams' have consistently proven to be incompetent, and aimless at the plate. You have to ignore 2006 though, when they had a .349 wOBA (2nd in MLB) and a 14.5% k rate (3rd lowest in MLB).

If you just completely ignore that happened............Yosemite Dan makes sense at something.


Keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel all warm and toasty as the Jays keep falling in the standings. It may be early but these everyday players are doing what they want and are not listening to him or his coaches. It happens almost every game, it's not an anomoly and something is definately wrong in the clubhouse.
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#24 » by b0na f1de » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:13 pm

Yosemite Dan wrote:
b0na f1de wrote:Yosemite Dan might be onto something. Gibbons teams' have consistently proven to be incompetent, and aimless at the plate. You have to ignore 2006 though, when they had a .349 wOBA (2nd in MLB) and a 14.5% k rate (3rd lowest in MLB).

If you just completely ignore that happened............Yosemite Dan makes sense at something.


Keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel all warm and toasty as the Jays keep falling in the standings. It may be early but these everyday players are doing what they want and are not listening to him or his coaches. It happens almost every game, it's not an anomoly and something is definately wrong in the clubhouse.


I didn't really say anything to myself, fangraphs did.
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#25 » by Scorpion King » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:25 pm

John Gibbons cant be fully blamed. Who was responsible for hiring inexperienced batting coach like Chat Mottola same for Pete Walker ?

Is it AA or Gibbons ?
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#26 » by Mehar » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:31 pm

Go away or smarten up. I don't even know what you are trying to get out of these little wheedling and prodding posts. What, you want Randle to feel...bad about the Blue Jays? Or that the rest season is hopeless on April 20th? What are you aiming for? At least a tool like Mehar is understandable, he just desperately wants recognition from a bunch of anonymous strangers. I have no idea why you choose to post the way you do.[/quote]

Hey buddy shut your mouth and keep your name out of my mouth. Dan has his own opinions and he is entitled to them, but do not bring me into your conversations and mention me as a "tool". I also have no idea sometimes why you post the way you do. You are the classic tool and are full of crap, because you attack others because they do not see the way things you do. I respectfully had a disagreement with you last week, and you took it to an another level with your name calling. I could care less about how many posts you have. I do not want recognition from everyone. I could care less about that. The only person wanting recognition is you tool. Keep your name out of my mouth, start showing respect to others, or if not, i hope the MODS get rid of you once and for all. Start acting like an adult and understand the fact that others are entitled to their own opinions like Randle, J-Roc, etc.
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#27 » by kwamebargnani » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:34 pm

Manager is not the problem. His bullpen management has been superb. Blame AA for assembling such **** bench. Two regulars get injured, and we have Mark DeRosa and Kawasaki playing everybody.
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#28 » by The_Hater » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:58 pm

kwamebargnani wrote:Manager is not the problem. His bullpen management has been superb. Blame AA for assembling such **** bench. Two regulars get injured, and we have Mark DeRosa and Kawasaki playing everybody.


Most team's have lousy benches. If they were good players, they'd be starters here or somewhere else.

The bench is way down the list of biggest problems with this team, poor starting pitching and a lineup full of slumping hitters are clearly at the top of any list.
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#29 » by J-Roc » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:47 am

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J-Roc wrote:Don't bother Dan. People around here will only blame the likes of "Boneface" and Adam Lind, and injuries.


I love this post. Allow me to paraphrase your last month on the Blue Jays forum: "People don't disagree with me because I display an immense ignorance of a large swath of topics and provide nothing of value when attempting to communicate with other human beings. It's because I am a realist and they are clearly just homers."

Here's a thought: the people in this thread that disagree with Yosemite Dan were critical of the Jays all afternoon, and have been commenting on the hilariously awful D, and poor hitting all season. They just don't think the Jays are losing baseball games because "Tommy Lasorda" isn't an anagram of "Blue Jays", or whatever other inane thought you've dreamt up this week.

The contrarian stance you take to try and hide your ignorance of basically every topic you comment on is obvious and obnoxious. People don't like you, not because you are a voice of reason and they are incurable homers, but because you are so confidently ignorant it is enormously off putting. Especially when combined with your budding persecution complex. You are the Blue Jays board mosquito. The annoying **** of the animal kingdom, who also sometimes spread malaria.

Go away or smarten up. I don't even know what you are trying to get out of these little wheedling and prodding posts. What, you want Randle to feel...bad about the Blue Jays? Or that the rest season is hopeless on April 20th? What are you aiming for? At least a tool like Mehar is understandable, he just desperately wants recognition from a bunch of anonymous strangers. I have no idea why you choose to post the way you do.


And yet the post right above yours, someone takes aim at the two specific players I mentioned as excuses for the losing. As for the rest of your rant, people vote with the ignore button and they....no, actually you....keep coming back. :lol:
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#30 » by Ado05 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:51 pm

I really hope Gibbons and co. are working on the fundamentals with the players.
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#31 » by -MetA4- » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:43 pm

Yosemite Dan wrote:Keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel all warm and toasty as the Jays keep falling in the standings. It may be early but these everyday players are doing what they want and are not listening to him or his coaches. It happens almost every game, it's not an anomoly and something is definately wrong in the clubhouse.


Brilliant response to a post that absolutely roasted you.../sarcasm.

Let me explain this easily: a hitter is, who he is. "Make them be more selective", "tell them to stop swinging for the fences"...are you serious? Gee, why doesn't someone tell Adam Dunn to stop striking out 35% of the time? Why doesn't he shorten up his swing and maybe improve on his .200 BA? How about when a team employs a dramatic shift, often playing with no one at third, against a notorious pull hitter? Why doesn't the hitter simply change his approach and hit the ball to the wide open part of the field? Because thats not how it **** works.

We are fielding a lineup of notoriously poor hitters, and the remaining few "good" hitters are either struggling/coming off injury, or were never "selective" hitters in the first place. Arencibia is a no-walk, high-strikeout player. Bautista and Encarnacion are both coming off injury and are in slumps (Encarnacion has been getting better). Lawrie is fresh off the DL and is way behind. Cabrera is a career low-walk, high contact swing player. Rasmus' problem isn't his "approach", its the fact that he seemingly forgot how to hit and has glaring holes all over his swing in which he cant hit anything. Lind has sucked for 3+ seasons now. Davis and Bonifacio are not, and never will be "selective" batters.

So whats the magic fix here? Make the notoriously poor hitters flip some magic switch that makes them figure out how to work an at-bat?
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#32 » by MikeM » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:54 pm

TBH, I think if we still had Farrell, we would not have the amount of wins we have now.

Just look at Gibby. Kawasaki's already hitting leadoff. Gibby does not give a F. He puts the players where they're supposed to be.
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Re: This team is so poorly managed. 

Post#33 » by Ong_dynasty » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:10 am

-MetA4- wrote:Brilliant response to a post that absolutely roasted you.../sarcasm.

Let me explain this easily: a hitter is, who he is. "Make them be more selective", "tell them to stop swinging for the fences"...are you serious? Gee, why doesn't someone tell Adam Dunn to stop striking out 35% of the time? Why doesn't he shorten up his swing and maybe improve on his .200 BA? How about when a team employs a dramatic shift, often playing with no one at third, against a notorious pull hitter? Why doesn't the hitter simply change his approach and hit the ball to the wide open part of the field? Because thats not how it **** works.

We are fielding a lineup of notoriously poor hitters, and the remaining few "good" hitters are either struggling/coming off injury, or were never "selective" hitters in the first place. Arencibia is a no-walk, high-strikeout player. Bautista and Encarnacion are both coming off injury and are in slumps (Encarnacion has been getting better). Lawrie is fresh off the DL and is way behind. Cabrera is a career low-walk, high contact swing player. Rasmus' problem isn't his "approach", its the fact that he seemingly forgot how to hit and has glaring holes all over his swing in which he cant hit anything. Lind has sucked for 3+ seasons now. Davis and Bonifacio are not, and never will be "selective" batters.

So whats the magic fix here? Make the notoriously poor hitters flip some magic switch that makes them figure out how to work an at-bat?


see Meta4, you solved the problems in 3 paragraphs. I mean if you can do that surely Gibbons who is an experienced manager can do it in two.

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