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2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59)

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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#921 » by Jukeness » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:39 am

Nah, no ****ing prospects, I want and I think we need someone that can immediately contribute. I never can tell with those international porspects, I just feel like they might turn out like crap.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#922 » by Grits n Gravy » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:43 am

Turnover_21 wrote:If the top wing prospects are off the board I would seriously look into drafting a center prospect, mainly Alex Len. He would be in a perfect spot here slowly developing behind Pekovic. He's got much better physical tools than Pek and should be a good partner for Rubio for years to come. Gobert is another possible candidate.

i think adams is the man if we are going to draft a center project. he's a perfect fit as a defensive minded, rim protecting, athletic 7 footer. i think he can defend pretty well from day one(though the rest of his game is not ready) and develop into one of the best defensive center's in the league.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#923 » by [RCG] » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:47 am

I'm all for Len if we're sitting at #9 and he is the only guy of the consensus top-9 left.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#924 » by NewWolvesOrder » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:53 am

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Turnover_21 wrote:If the top wing prospects are off the board I would seriously look into drafting a center prospect, mainly Alex Len. He would be in a perfect spot here slowly developing behind Pekovic. He's got much better physical tools than Pek and should be a good partner for Rubio for years to come. Gobert is another possible candidate.

i think adams is the man if we are going to draft a center project. he's a perfect fit as a defensive minded, rim protecting, athletic 7 footer. i think he can defend pretty well from day one(though the rest of his game is not ready) and develop into one of the best defensive center's in the league.


at # 9?
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#925 » by Grits n Gravy » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:12 am

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Turnover_21 wrote:If the top wing prospects are off the board I would seriously look into drafting a center prospect, mainly Alex Len. He would be in a perfect spot here slowly developing behind Pekovic. He's got much better physical tools than Pek and should be a good partner for Rubio for years to come. Gobert is another possible candidate.

i think adams is the man if we are going to draft a center project. he's a perfect fit as a defensive minded, rim protecting, athletic 7 footer. i think he can defend pretty well from day one(though the rest of his game is not ready) and develop into one of the best defensive center's in the league.


at # 9?

i mean you could probably trade back to get him but trying to speak as a non new zealand homer i'd be more than happy taking him at number 9. i think he has a higher upside than most in the draft. i don't see what shabazz has in his game that warrants a top 10 selection(where he's currently mocked - i think he has possibly the worst intangibles in the first round) and what adams doesn't have(projecting forward). i think he has some of the best intangibles and qualities in the draft. very good nba body, size strength and quick feet which makes him very good in pick n roll defense and hedging. he's very unselfish offensively and while he's limited there i think he can become competant - on the level of say bogut, who at his best was a pretty efficient mid teens scorer.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#926 » by MinneOOPalis » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:14 am

I feel as though washington would draft alex len over shabazz if they were both available.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#927 » by jade_hippo » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:29 am

Not a lot of mocks are set up for team needs yet. Wash and Cleveland not likely to take guards, Sacto and Detroit not likely to take bigs. Phoenix Charlotte and Orlando likely take BPA.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#928 » by MinneOOPalis » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:38 am

Bogut was the number 1 pick and was considered to be a top 5 center at one point. Steven Adams has no chance of that.

but he would still be a nice backup.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#929 » by Klomp » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:34 am

jade_hippo wrote:if we draft another guard from Syracuse I'm becoming a Heat fan. Just on our own history we should avoid this guy, questionable shooting is an even bigger red flag. MCW shouldn't even be an option.

I'm not far behind. That just shows how little I want to do with McCollum.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#930 » by Klomp » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:36 am

Len is a guy I'm interested in. Seems like he'd be a good fit in the Adelman offense. Adds some more intenational flavor as well.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#931 » by Grits n Gravy » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:54 am

Sakuragi_ wrote:Bogut was the number 1 pick and was considered to be a top 5 center at one point. Steven Adams has no chance of that.

but he would still be a nice backup.

i don't think it's fair to say that about a 19 year old, you can say an unlikely chance. bogut has had about 2 healthy years and yes when healthy he has been right on that cusp of that in the past. imo adams has better physical tools to work with and i can only guess had far less development than bogut would have had at the same age(adams only started playing seriously about 4-5 years ago).

looking at per 40 pace adjusted stats for both len and adams:
adams
13.2 ppg
11.6 rpg
1.1 apg
1.2 spg
3.7 bpg
23.4 per

len
17.5 ppg
11.5 rpg
1.1 apg
0.3 spg
3 bpg
24.7 per

adams is just a month younger but also had only one ncaa season to len's two.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#932 » by Krapinsky » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:47 pm

I think when you're comparing per 36 in college stats you're stretching the imagination a bit. If you watched both players it's rather obvious Len is much, much better.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#933 » by Krapinsky » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:57 pm

Klomp wrote:
jade_hippo wrote:if we draft another guard from Syracuse I'm becoming a Heat fan. Just on our own history we should avoid this guy, questionable shooting is an even bigger red flag. MCW shouldn't even be an option.

I'm not far behind. That just shows how little I want to do with McCollum.


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MCW has played one game since then :lol:
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#934 » by Klomp » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:50 pm

Krapinsky wrote:MCW has played one game since then :lol:

You and your facts...
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#935 » by Krapinsky » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:53 pm

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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#936 » by moss_is_1 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:11 pm

Klomp wrote:
jade_hippo wrote:if we draft another guard from Syracuse I'm becoming a Heat fan. Just on our own history we should avoid this guy, questionable shooting is an even bigger red flag. MCW shouldn't even be an option.

I'm not far behind. That just shows how little I want to do with McCollum.

I think at worst McCollum would provide a very good 6th man for us. You can't ignore our lack of shooting, and with Rubio's size McCollum and him would be fine most of the time. It's all about matchups, look at Denver / GS playing Jack/Curry and Miller / Lawson a lot of the time.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#937 » by Klomp » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:00 pm

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jade_hippo wrote:if we draft another guard from Syracuse I'm becoming a Heat fan. Just on our own history we should avoid this guy, questionable shooting is an even bigger red flag. MCW shouldn't even be an option.

I'm not far behind. That just shows how little I want to do with McCollum.

I think at worst McCollum would provide a very good 6th man for us. You can't ignore our lack of shooting, and with Rubio's size McCollum and him would be fine most of the time. It's all about matchups, look at Denver / GS playing Jack/Curry and Miller / Lawson a lot of the time.

You mean like how Rubio and Ridnour is fine? Like that?
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#938 » by Saltine » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:04 pm

LOL...

we need size at SG. We have been getting torched there for years, hell I'd rather trade our picks for cash and sign Allen from Memphis before we grab a combo PG to play SG again. We either get a real wing, or a backup to Pek, or we've wasted a draft.

I'd rather have Shved backup Ricky, then move Derrick, Luke, and JJ with our picks for the fragile Eric Gordon, at least he'll be a SG for %75 of a season.

Oh, because I'm nuts, I did the math, we can afford to keep Pek, Bud and add Gordon. If we move those three and our $2 million salary #9 pick. If Pek and Bud make no more than $16 million combined, we can keep Steamer and Dante as well.

Is this a good idea, probably not, though perhaps EG's injury curse will cancel the Portland curse we inherited with Brandon Roy...
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#939 » by Grits n Gravy » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:05 pm

Krapinsky wrote:I think when you're comparing per 36 in college stats you're stretching the imagination a bit. If you watched both players it's rather obvious Len is much, much better.

although i only watched one game of len's i can certainly agree that len is the better offensive player and more fluid there. defensively i think adams is and will be far superior. we don't need another offensive center. we need a guy like asik or chandler.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#940 » by NewWolvesOrder » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:26 pm

Are their any legit highlights of Adams playing college ball this year. I couldn't find any.

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