OFFICIAL JETS NFL DRAFT THREAD

[moocow007]

1 Month Countdown to the Draft has begun.

Thursday, April 25th is the magical day where (hopefully) some serious components of the Jets future will be unveiled.

So let's have some discussions on who the Jet's should go after. Hopefully their get the Revis trade down with at least a few days before the draft so that we can also throw that into the discussion mix.

Here's a list of Jets Picks by Round

ROUND 1

Pick 9

ROUND 2

Pick 39

ROUND 3

Pick 72

ROUND 4

Pick 106

ROUND 5

Pick 141

ROUND 6

Pick 178

ROUND 7

Pick 215

Have added a poll with some of the most discussed names thus far including some of the hot names that seems to be rising on boards after the combine and Senior Bowl performances. Left out guys that IMO already are locks to be gone by 9 (due to general consensus or positional needs by teams drafting ahead vs. best by position).

Guys that are sure bets to be gone by 9 and why...

Luke Joeckel - he's top 2-3 in most everyone's draft, and generally the consensus no.1 overall pick, and is being talked about as a once in a lifetime OT...so he aint dropping.

Dee Miliner - by far the best CB and a potential game changer...enough teams needing stud CB for him to drop to 9.

Eric Fisher - another guy that is on most everyon'es top 5-6, not quite Joeckel cool, but an extremely safe pick and loads of teams looking for line help.

Geno Smith - he might fall to 8, but no way he gets past Buffalo at 8...no way.

Shariff Floyd - the Raiders apparently love this guy and will be taking him if he's still on the board at 3.

Everyone else is fair game even though guys like Jordan and Ansah have rocketed up mocks. Have included a WR that is getting a lot of buzz from combine (Tavon Austin) with folks comparing him to the next Percy Harvin. Also names that have been linked to the Jets are on there.

[moocow007]

The latest rumor also has it that the most likely landing spot for Revis is Tampa. Tampa currently holds the 13th overall pick. I've heard talk that the Jets and Tampa are discussing 1st and 2nd this year and possibly a 3rd that could turn into a 2nd next year. I'm sure that's what the Jets are asking. Feeling is that Tampa's options are fading away with FA CB's going off the board so while the Jets may not be able to get all that, but it appears that at least the 1st rounder is going to happen.

As far as fit goes? I don't think anyone is a guarantee.

Chance Warmack might be the closest thing to a sure thing on my list but he's a offensive lineman. Real nice physical tools though and has a good track record.

The two high upside defensive guys that could fit in extremely, extremely well with Rex Ryan are Dion Jordan and Ziggy Ansah. But are gigantic (6'7" and 6'6" respectively) athletic freaks that haven't really been playing organized football all that much (the catch) but have the physical tools, style and (especially for Ansah) the intelligence to pick things up quickly. Of course, anytime you talk physically impressive but raw nightmares of Vernon Gholston come to mind, but both these guys appear to be cut from a different mold than Gholston. Ansah is being talked about as a JPP clone and Jordan as someone that the NFL hasn't seen before in terms of DE with the type of length and speed he has.

Star Loutoulelei was a top 3-4 lock for a while but his stock has fallen a bit, though he's apparently moving back up. Was talked about as a beastly defensive lineman and someone that opposing offensive lines would have to double up consistently.

Barkevious Mingo is probably the fastest DE/OLB in the group and has terrific physical tools.

Jarvis Jones is the most proven/decorated DE of the group and has the most experience among the defensive ends in the draft. Would be a "safe" pick if the Jets go with DE.

Tavon Austin is a short WR at 5'9" (his main/only drawback) but he's deadly after the catch and is very skilled and breaking defenses...also is terrific as a return man. An extremely good route runner. All that adds up to the perfect type of receiver for a QB that doesn't have a cannon (see Jets).

[Grover]

I voted for someone else and I was thinking Lane Johnson at right tackle but I would still advocate trading down to about #14 and just ahead of the Saints, Rams and Steelers who are probably looking at the same players as the Jets.

[moocow007]

I voted for someone else and I was thinking Lane Johnson at right tackle but I would still advocate trading down to about #14 and just ahead of the Saints, Rams and Steelers who are probably looking at the same players as the Jets.

Im expecting them to trade Revis and expecting it to be the Bucks so they should have 2 1st round picks to work with.

[Grover]

I think we fans have had smoke blown up our asses on a Revis trade and the potential return though if it has any legs it will occur on draft night when this year's Tampa picks must be made. Most of the reports center around 2014 first and second round picks or a 2013 first (13th) and a conditional pick in 2014.

As for the draft. though I do expect the Jets to select one of Ansah, Jordan, Mingo or Jones, I can't help having visions of Gholston revisited and prefer a lower risk pick like Warmack with all of the Georgia Bulldogs mocked in the first three rounds and how he was able to blow holes through their line and take out linebackers at the second level. Johnson was a bit of a reach but not replacing Howard at right tackle last year should have resulted in Ryan's firing alone and I have seen no right tackles mentioned as potential free agents as yet. Perhaps Gaither on a one year flier as he is no longer a starting caliber left tackle. I am convinced this will be a heavy defense focused draft and we will see how much power Ryan still has over Woody Johnson and the pawn that is hopefully not Idzik.

[thebuzzardman]

Gee, I can hardly wait for another offseason where offensive line is a glaring glaring need and the front office does jack sh*t about it and then wonders why the QB sucks as he runs for his life half the plays. Not that cantchez is any good, but the O line was a recipe for disaster anyway you slice it.

[j4remi]

If Geno Smith gets past Philly at 4, I could see him falling to us...do we take him?

I can't believe Flynn went for a 5th and a conditional...I'd have taken that in a heartbeat.

[TheGarden]

1. KC- Luke Joeckel
2. JAX- Dion Jordan or Eric Fisher
3. OAK- Shariff Floyd
4. PHI- Dion Jordan or Eric Fisher
5. DET- Dee Milliner
6. CLE- Jarvis Jones
7. AZ- Lane Johnson
8. BUF- Jonathan Cooper or Chance Warmack
9. NYJ- Eugene Smith

[j4remi]

1. KC- Luke Joeckel
2. JAX- Dion Jordan or Eric Fisher
3. OAK- Shariff Floyd
4. PHI- Dion Jordan or Eric Fisher
5. DET- Dee Milliner
6. CLE- Jarvis Jones
7. AZ- Lane Johnson
8. BUF- Jonathan Cooper or Chance Warmack
9. NYJ- Eugene Smith

I was thinking the Jets might manage to trade that pick to an eager team for a QB...but honestly, what team would be in love with him to the point of trading up. There aren't many glaring QB needs to be filled and the teams ahead of us (who've scouted him heavily) all wound up looking for other options. Tough call here.

Edit: Also, wtf are the Jets doing with the O-Line...have they signed ANYONE!? Could they be planning to draft replacements?

[Grover]

It would be a difficult decision to pass on the consensus number one quarterback, especially in New York with Sanchez, but I am hoping for both Smith and Barkeley to go before nine and see who might slide. Our own Jeff Risdon has been more accurate than most at mocking players over the last couple of years and he currently is showing both going before the Jets pick. I will continue to hope for as much trading back for extra picks as possible while willing to accept 2014 picks for Revis if the Jets can add one or more of Harris, Holmes or Tebow to the deal to open additional cap space for additional free agents following the draft who have a much better chance of earning a starting spot than a sixth round draft pick. The number of bodies just does not add up when you look at the history of the small number of picks that actually become reliable starters.

[thebuzzardman]

Keep checking here for the 100th time to see if Jets dealt that ahole Revis before he holds out for the 10th time on a "new" contract.

I think the guy is awesome as a player but to tie up 1/4 of the cap on a cornerback? Nah, let someone else do that.

Then again, he IS one of the handful of draft picks the Jets have gotten right in the last 30 years.

[thebuzzardman]

1. KC- Luke Joeckel
2. JAX- Dion Jordan or Eric Fisher
3. OAK- Shariff Floyd
4. PHI- Dion Jordan or Eric Fisher
5. DET- Dee Milliner
6. CLE- Jarvis Jones
7. AZ- Lane Johnson
8. BUF- Jonathan Cooper or Chance Warmack
9. NYJ- Eugene Smith

I was thinking the Jets might manage to trade that pick to an eager team for a QB...but honestly, what team would be in love with him to the point of trading up. There aren't many glaring QB needs to be filled and the teams ahead of us (who've scouted him heavily) all wound up looking for other options. Tough call here.

Edit: Also, wtf are the Jets doing with the O-Line...have they signed ANYONE!? Could they be planning to draft replacements?

Once again, the Jets are completely ignoring offensive line woes, then will be scratching their heads as running game and QB look like straight ass.

[j4remi]

Keep checking here for the 100th time to see if Jets dealt that ahole Revis before he holds out for the 10th time on a "new" contract.

I think the guy is awesome as a player but to tie up 1/4 of the cap on a cornerback? Nah, let someone else do that.

Then again, he IS one of the handful of draft picks the Jets have gotten right in the last 30 years.

He's not gonna hold out, that's for certain. He has 3 million dollars in bonuses tied to pre-requisites that include attending preseason workouts and training camp on time. So he's got 3 million reasons to stick around for a change.

Once again, the Jets are completely ignoring offensive line woes, then will be scratching their heads as running game and QB look like straight ass.

It's funny because no matter what QB the Jets have, it won't matter much if the guy is getting battered every other play and the running game can't be established thanks to a weak line and no true number one RB.

[Grover]

Another decent signing of Laron's little brother Dawan, who knows Ryan's system and can at least be a good special teamer. Rated the sixty-ninth safety last year, he probably gets a one year deal and is in the mix for strong safety though he is lousy at coverage. Though Geno Smith is coming in for a visit this week and I am seeing more mocks that have the Jets trading up, I'm hoping this is a total smoke screen and they are trying to entice a team to trade up. One mock had the Bills trading the eighth pick to the 49ers for their first, the Chiefs second plus a few lower round picks. If the 49ers want Austin at eight they can have him at nine as the value at the end of the first round and start of the second is much better value.

Reading up on Colon shows he was a right tackle who was moved inside. Maybe he is projected to be in the Damien Woody mold at 330+ size to blow open holes and push Howard to the bench and some two tight end sets. If Warmack and Jones become the nine and thirteen picks in the first round, assuming the most recent Revis rumors come true, perhaps Warford in the second, Darius Slay as a potential Revis replacement and Cornelius Washington as the other outside linebacker in the third and Trevardo Williams for depth and third down pressure in the fourth might satisfy both the offensive line woes and begin to fill the defensive box. Alabama tight end Michael Williams ought to be around in the fifth and the two sixths and seventh could go small school or character red flag guys who got passed over with an eye toward defensive line depth, running backs and receivers.

[thebuzzardman]

Another decent signing of Laron's little brother Dawan, who knows Ryan's system and can at least be a good special teamer. Rated the sixty-ninth safety last year, he probably gets a one year deal and is in the mix for strong safety though he is lousy at coverage. Though Geno Smith is coming in for a visit this week and I am seeing more mocks that have the Jets trading up, I'm hoping this is a total smoke screen and they are trying to entice a team to trade up. One mock had the Bills trading the eighth pick to the 49ers for their first, the Chiefs second plus a few lower round picks. If the 49ers want Austin at eight they can have him at nine as the value at the end of the first round and start of the second is much better value.

Reading up on Colon shows he was a right tackle who was moved inside. Maybe he is projected to be in the Damien Woody mold at 330+ size to blow open holes and push Howard to the bench and some two tight end sets. If Warmack and Jones become the nine and thirteen picks in the first round, assuming the most recent Revis rumors come true, perhaps Warford in the second, Darius Slay as a potential Revis replacement and Cornelius Washington as the other outside linebacker in the third and Trevardo Williams for depth and third down pressure in the fourth might satisfy both the offensive line woes and begin to fill the defensive box. Alabama tight end Michael Williams ought to be around in the fifth and the two sixths and seventh could go small school or character red flag guys who got passed over with an eye toward defensive line depth, running backs and receivers.

You don't think Geno Smith is good enough to pick if he's still there at 9? I know Jets brought in QB's to compete with Sanchez, but it seems pretty sure they are not sold on him. Or is next years draft more QB rich and Jets figure this is 2 -3 year rebuild (which it sure looks like to me)

[Grover]

He might be a better quarterback than Sanchez but I do not see a franchise quarterback or anything near it. He is not accurate, does not read defenses well and would cost a chance at picking someone potentially better at a position of need. Anyone can be a bust but with the recent signings of some of the top flight quarterbacks establishing new heights to the value of the position, I could definitely see the Jets taking him or even falling for a trade up. With Ducasse and Howard blocking for him, he may not even have a chance to prove me wrong but I hope he would do just that.

As to next year, Bridgewater is the favorite to be the number one pick as of now but I think I read that there are likely to be three other first round quarterbacks as well.

[j4remi]

You don't think Geno Smith is good enough to pick if he's still there at 9? I know Jets brought in QB's to compete with Sanchez, but it seems pretty sure they are not sold on him. Or is next years draft more QB rich and Jets figure this is 2 -3 year rebuild (which it sure looks like to me)

Geno is in the twenties of overall talent rank on draft boards...That makes me nervous and the that teams with QB needs above us have gone for stop gaps instead is really worrying. The other thing is, I don't think they trust that Rex will be around next season...a new HC may want to bring in a QB of his choosing and that would mean our 9th pick has to go to make room for the new teacher's pet.

[Grover]

Though Idzik should have the ultimate say at the draft, Woody Johnson reminds me of an early George Steinbrenner and he loves the back pages of the newspaper. He'll get more and much longer attention for the Jets with a quarterback than any other position so I will not rule Smith at nine or thirteen if Revis is dealt. If they are still on the board I think the Jets will select in order of who remains from Jordan, Jones, Mingo and Ansah but I might throw Lotulelei in there as well. He is not an ideal nose tackle but the value proposition of those positions will outweigh the offensive guards that will inevitably slide and the defensive line has little depth. I would hope they would address the offensive line in day two but I fear we may be looking at free agent retreads on the offensive line and at safety after the draft. I think it was Walter Footbal that mentioned the Jets had spent conderable time looking at the quarterback Dysart from Miami of Ohio and I could see a big back like Knile Davis or Leveon Bell along with a tight end and receiver. Maybe I'm behind the times for wanting to rebuild a team in the trenches.

[j4remi]

If we stay in place at the draft, I actually think I'd prefer to go with one of the two great G's available and Tavon Austin. Might even be able to trade back a couple of places, add an extra pick and still get both. Every available pass rusher has question marks, those two are sure things.

[Pharmcat]

trade down you need as many picks possible

no qb

get that next year