Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Sorry, CCJ, McDermott is going back to Creighton: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... enior-year

With McDermott out, I like Mike Muscala or Erik Murphy as 2nd round targets.

[gambitx777]

McDermott would not have made it to the second round. But i do not hate muscala in the second round, but i think we should use our second round picks to bolster our guard depth, and go for bigs in the first round.

[FAH1223]

Sorry, CCJ, McDermott is going back to Creighton: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... enior-year

With McDermott out, I like Mike Muscala or Erik Murphy as 2nd round targets.

I just wish we kept our 2nd round picks but you know Ernie will pick a Euro who can't shoot.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

McDermott's dad is the coach. Creighton wil be a top-20 team.

[verbal8]

Sorry, CCJ, McDermott is going back to Creighton: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... enior-year

Obviously there is the injury risk aspect, but other than that I think it is a solid decision.

If he moves up 5 spots, say from 20 to 15, he can make $2 million more over his rookie deal. I think similar production against Big East competition would warrant that. He projects to be an NBA role player, so getting out of the rookie deal isn't a huge factor. Playing time in terms of overall minutes would probably be about similar, but he will be playing a far more important role on his college team.

[nate33]

Sorry, CCJ, McDermott is going back to Creighton: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... enior-year

Obviously there is the injury risk aspect, but other than that I think it is a solid decision.

If he moves up 5 spots, say from 20 to 15, he can make $2 million more over his rookie deal. I think similar production against Big East competition would warrant that. He projects to be an NBA role player, so getting out of the rookie deal isn't a huge factor. Playing time in terms of overall minutes would probably be about similar, but he will be playing a far more important role on his college team.

I don't see him moving up at all. The guy is already the entire focus of his team's offense, and he is posting numbers that are pretty much impossible to improve upon. The knock against McDermott has never been his statistical production. He's got the best numbers in college basketball. The knock against McDermott is he has no position in the NBA. I don't see how he's going to change that.

He must improve his handles and lateral quickness in the hopes of being a full time SF in the Dunleavy mold. Otherwise, he needs to bulk up and substantially boost his rebounding totals in an attempt to be a stretch four.

[AFM]

After watching some more of his scouting reports, I'm really liking CJ McCollum. Dude is just a straight up baller IMO.

[Ruzious]

After watching some more of his scouting reports, I'm really liking CJ McCollum. Dude is just a straight up baller IMO.

My impression is he's a lot like a better Jordan Crawford. He's a better 3 point shooter, and he gets to the line more.

[Ruzious]

Sorry, CCJ, McDermott is going back to Creighton: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... enior-year

Obviously there is the injury risk aspect, but other than that I think it is a solid decision.

If he moves up 5 spots, say from 20 to 15, he can make $2 million more over his rookie deal. I think similar production against Big East competition would warrant that. He projects to be an NBA role player, so getting out of the rookie deal isn't a huge factor. Playing time in terms of overall minutes would probably be about similar, but he will be playing a far more important role on his college team.

I don't see him moving up at all. The guy is already the entire focus of his team's offense, and he is posting numbers that are pretty much impossible to improve upon. The knock against McDermott has never been his statistical production. He's got the best numbers in college basketball. The knock against McDermott is he has no position in the NBA. I don't see how he's going to change that.

He must improve his handles and lateral quickness in the hopes of being a full time SF in the Dunleavy mold. Otherwise, he needs to bulk up and substantially boost his rebounding totals in an attempt to be a stretch four.

Yeah, I think he's got to show he can get a little bigger and play the 4. Face 4 has pretty much got to be his NBA position, imo. I agree with those who think he should have come out - because next year's draft should be better and he'll be a year older and losing a year's salary that he'll never get back - but if he can impress that he can play the 4, it could end up helping him.

[WizTom]

Perhaps McDermott realizes that there's a very good chance he spends at least part of his career abroad, in Europe or elsewhere, so he wants to extend his time here. (Looking back, I certainly wish I could have extended my college years!) The difference in what he may earn in the NBA as a marginal roster guy coming out this year vs. next could be significant to people like us, but for a guy who has the skill to be in consideration to play pro ball, I'd bet he figures he can make up the difference overseas, anyway.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Well like CCJ said, I think the main motivation to return was to play for his dad.

So what about Patrik Murphy as a 2nd round target? 6-10 PF from florida, former teammate of Beal, shot 45% from 3.

[pancakes3]

If Erick Murphy and Patric Young fused together to be 1 player, it would be awesome. However, an SEC white forward has a pretty good track record in the NBA. I think he'll be a fine prospect.

[fishercob]

NBAdraft.net is reporting that Marcus Smart may enter the draft after all.

[nuposse04]

NBAdraft.net is reporting that Marcus Smart may enter the draft after all.

That would be music to my ears....Chances of Bennett/Len increase while chances of Muhammad/Zeller/Oladipo decrease.

[Ruzious]

NBAdraft.net is reporting that Marcus Smart may enter the draft after all.

Good. While McDermott's decision might hurt him some, Smart staying would almost definitely cost him major dollars. And good forthe Wiz - he makes the top of the draft stronger.

Larkin apparently has changed his mind and is coming out.

[Ruzious]

NBAdraft.net is reporting that Marcus Smart may enter the draft after all.

That would be music to my ears....Chances of Bennett/Len increase while chances of Muhammad/Zeller/Oladipo decrease.

Meh. Well, at least his presence increases the trade value of the Wiz pick.

[nuposse04]

I think had Len/Bennett not been there when our turn rings up, we absolutely should trade out. Those are the only two realistic guys around that area that could have a longterm positive impact for us. I'm not a believer in Zeller as some aren't a believer in Muhammad. I think Oladipo is a glorified role player who won't pay any real dividends for a season or two.

[sfam]

I think had Len/Bennett not been there when our turn rings up, we absolutely should trade out. Those are the only two realistic guys around that area that could have a longterm positive impact for us. I'm not a believer in Zeller as some aren't a believer in Muhammad. I think Oladipo is a glorified role player who won't pay any real dividends for a season or two.

The problem with trading out is you're getting an even less impactful player. I rarely think this makes sense in basketball. A number of the players available around 8-12 will have the potential to be solid contributors. Far more chance than those you get in the 20s for instance.

[go'stags]

Any chance Larkin lasts until our second rounder? If he is there do we pull the trigger? I doubt he is there though.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Sorry, CCJ, McDermott is going back to Creighton: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... enior-year

Obviously there is the injury risk aspect, but other than that I think it is a solid decision.

If he moves up 5 spots, say from 20 to 15, he can make $2 million more over his rookie deal. I think similar production against Big East competition would warrant that. He projects to be an NBA role player, so getting out of the rookie deal isn't a huge factor. Playing time in terms of overall minutes would probably be about similar, but he will be playing a far more important role on his college team.

I don't see him moving up at all. The guy is already the entire focus of his team's offense, and he is posting numbers that are pretty much impossible to improve upon. The knock against McDermott has never been his statistical production. He's got the best numbers in college basketball. The knock against McDermott is he has no position in the NBA. I don't see how he's going to change that.

He must improve his handles and lateral quickness in the hopes of being a full time SF in the Dunleavy mold. Otherwise, he needs to bulk up and substantially boost his rebounding totals in an attempt to be a stretch four.

Certainly, it helps to maximize one's handles and lateral quickness. Also, strength gains with mass to the extent mobility is still optimal is any athlete's goal.

That said, I think Doug McDermott needs to be Doug freaking McDermott. He makes shots from anywhere on the court. He moves like Rip Hamilton and Reggie Miller, only more from mid post and at the rim from exclusively perimeter. McDermott's game is IMO already somewhat like Linas Kleiza's, Wally Sczerbiak's, Brian Cook's, Anthony Tolliver's, Kyle Singler's, and on offense, Kevin Love's. None of those guys have great handles or tremendous lateral movement. Singler is the only one with an above-the-rim game. Love is by far the best rebounder.

McDermott IMO can shoot with any and all those guys. He's probably a more prolific scorer than all but Love and Szcerbiak at his NBA peak. (But I think he's maybe a better overall player than Wally S.)

We'll see in the 2014 draft.