Round 1: Bears draft offensive lineman Kyle Long

[bearadonisdna]

That Dt was the best player on the board but the bears cant overinvest in Dline.
Peppers, mcclellin, Melton ( franchise tag) Paea (second round pick).

There is already plenty assets allocated to the dline.
Cbs we have 2 pro bowlers.

The real only alternative to me would have been oggletree. And even that has its talking points.

Could've definitely used Eifert. I wanted him so badly.

but we just signed a starting Te.

[Jake0890]

That Dt was the best player on the board but the bears cant overinvest in Dline.
Peppers, mcclellin, Melton ( franchise tag) Paea (second round pick).

There is already plenty assets allocated to the dline.
Cbs we have 2 pro bowlers.

The real only alternative to me would have been oggletree. And even that has its talking points.

Could've definitely used Eifert. I wanted him so badly.

but we just signed a starting Te.

didn't we just sign an OLineman too? and didn't we draft Carimi two years ago? We already have too many linemen.

As shown by the Patriots' success, two TEs are great. There's no reason we had to get Long there. Waaaaay better players available.

[Bulls69]

Someone drafted the wisconsin center on day 1. Thats projected as a bigger reach than what the bears did.

The team that drafted that wisco center was targeting long which is why they went center when bears took long off the board. (This is what i heard on radio from draft insiders)

The Cowboys drafted the Center but Jerry Jones is the owner and GM so he is not going to fire him own self.

[BullHeaded]

Someone drafted the wisconsin center on day 1. Thats projected as a bigger reach than what the bears did.

The team that drafted that wisco center was targeting long which is why they went center when bears took long off the board. (This is what i heard on radio from draft insiders)

The Cowboys drafted him... I initially hoped we'd be targeting him or Schwenke for our round 2 pick. He's a very good C prospect. I don't think that was as terrible of a pick as some make it out to be. The truth is, we still need a center, although that's competing with some other needs too.

[BullHeaded]

That Dt was the best player on the board but the bears cant overinvest in Dline.
Peppers, mcclellin, Melton ( franchise tag) Paea (second round pick).

There is already plenty assets allocated to the dline.
Cbs we have 2 pro bowlers.

The real only alternative to me would have been oggletree. And even that has its talking points.

DL should be in the need column for sure. Drafting a solid DT means $8m in savings when we need to let Melton go next year and helps us re-sign Cutler (probably gets us halfway there) or re-sign our two corners.

Also... if there is a great DE available, I think we need to start considering sliding Peppers inside a la Dan Hampton to accomplish the same goal of compensating for the loss of Melton. For as many times as we hear people saying McClellan should be a LB, Peppers to DT is more plausible. He's actually played snaps there under Marinelli last year, he has the same DL coach, and there is no way a guard could handle him against the pass OR run.

[CalilLove89]

The one thing about Phil Emery is that he has no concept of value in a draft pick. I sure hope Long works out but he just cheated himself. His only out is if the Bears thought he was the last best lineman and he would be gone by round 2. But even then they could have drafted Ogletree and traded up or into another 2nd rounder or higher one in that case.
Oh Phil, Phil, Phil....

Maybe yes, maybe no. Do you think you know more about evaluating draft prospects than Emery? I know for sure that I don't. Do you think media guys like Kiper and Mayock know more? I don't. In fact, I believe that some of the media guys get played mercilessly by GMs before and during the draft. They then base their predictions on misinformation they're given by the professionals who are actually responsible for making draft decisions. Happens every year.

Still, as fans, we buy into what the media guys are sellin' (and yes, I realize that some of the media guys are former players and NFL execs...but none are currently getting paid to make draft decisions). Then, when our team's GM makes a pick that doesn't match up with what the media guys predicted, the media guys start screaming how the pick sucked or that he "reached." Fans then adopt the media views (for those fans who base their opinions on endless hours of video study, I apologize).

Pro Football Weekly's Publisher Hub Arkush provides an example of what I'm talking about. This morning, he bemoaned the fact that the Bears didn't select Florida DT Shariff Floyd at #20. Arkush stated that "everyone around the NFL agreed that Floyd was a top-10 talent." Since Floyd lasted until the Vikings took him at #23, clearly NFL GMs are not included in Arkush's "everyone around the NFL" group. I assume that Arkush was referring to his colleagues who are either amateur talent evaluators or former pros who currently don't have a paying gig with a NFL team.

According to Emery, he and his staff believed that Long was the best offensive lineman at the Senior Bowl. Several of the OLs who were picked before Long played in the Senior Bowl including the first and 4th overall picks. If Emery even kind of believes what he said about Long, I can understand why he took him at #20.

Here's the thing. Mel Kiper has been dead wrong in his first round assessments dozens of times over the years, but no matter how often he's wrong, he keeps his job. If Emery is consistently wrong, he gets fired. As a fan, you can certainly fire on Emery if you like...it doesn't cost you anything and you'll have lots of company today. As for me, I just hope Emery turns out to be right and that Arkush is once again proven to be the pompous douche I know and detest.

Please, you could make the same arguments about angelo when he was here. Getting a paycheck from an NFL team does not make you infallable.

[fleet]

Alright, on to the evaluations no matter if milk was spilled...

Tony Wise sees him as a left tackle, which is not surprising since he was consulted by the Bears on this and Emery said anything was possible:
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blog ... ty=chicago

[bearadonisdna]

Alright, on to the evaluations no matter if milk was spilled...

Tony Wise sees him as a left tackle, which is not surprising since he was consulted by the Bears on this and Emery said anything was possible:
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blog ... ty=chicago

The Bears feel he can play 4 oline positions. All guard and tackle positions.

[transplant]

well transplant, Emery has possibly or probably reached in the first round twice now and passed up more established players for guys that he could have gotten later... and maybe in the 3rd and 4th last year....Just by reading those expert opinions. No I dont know more and I dont think I do. All I know is what I can read.

Emery trusts his own judgement and he certainly should do that. But hes a pretty jumpy jittery guy in the draft by outward appearances.

Thanks for the open-mindedness. It's more than I had a right to expect.

Frankly, within 2 or 3 seasons either Emery will be hailed as a genius or he'll be out of work. I don't see an in-between for him.

[bearadonisdna]

To be perfectly honest i may draft kyle long in the realgm game.

Im targeting offensive lineman in the draft and im not sure i can get a better one than him.