The Lebron Thread (Pt. 2)

[SideshowBob]

What do you think of his TOs? Seems to me like they've been bad/unnecessary for the most part.

Bad. This was one of his best seasons ever in terms of taking care of the ball, so this is uncharacteristic. I honestly think he got too much time off at the end of the season, and he's been playing pretty sloppy. This is probably the poorest he's played in the first round in a long time (if not ever).

[SideshowBob]

Win in 4, watch Nets/Bulls go 6 or 7, and you have plenty of time to fix that stuff in practice.

True. It just seems like their RS momentum hasn't quite carried through into the playoffs, or at least not in the same way. They've obviously still been dominant.

[SideshowBob]

Miami Offensive 4 Factors Breakdown

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Game        eFG%      ORB%      TOV%      FT/FGA       ORTG

1           61.0%     34.4%     18.7%    .397          122.4
2           48.7%     29.3%     13.5%    .282          109.3
3           57.0%     29.3%     17.4%    .177          109.3

Series      55.3%     30.7%     16.6%    .280          113.6

Miami Defensive 4 Factors Breakdown

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Game        Op.eFG%   DRB%      Op.TOV%   Op.FT/FGA     DRTG

1           45.7%     77.8%     11.7%    .146          96.8
2           52.8%     88.6%     16.8%    .139          95.9
3           50.7%     77.5%     19.1%    .250          95.6

Series      49.6%     80.8%     15.8%    .177          96.1

[SideshowBob]

Miami with their usual RS TO% of 13 would be sitting at 118-119 ORTG right now.

[PCProductions]

At least three turnovers from these games are simply him being indecisive. He'll drive down the lane and jump for a floater, not shoot, attempt a pass out and it gets intercepted. He's just lost his flow from not having played enough. Also he's been kinda lazy on his defensive rotations in the post. Those are my complaints of his play so far.

However, he's still been way too brilliant to simply **** on him. They've been winning the games, which is most important, and he's the biggest reason why. His passing out of doubles has been quite good despite the turnovers and many of his passes should have been assists that resulted in bricked, open threes from Ray or Rio. His jumper came back to life tonight with a couple jaw dropping contested threes. He's still the same monster when it comes to finishing a drive in transition as well.

I expect the turnovers to wane when he plays more fearsome teams.

[kingkirk]

Miami in this series:

Game 1 - 122.4 ORTG, 96.8 DRTG
Game 2 - 109.3 ORTG, 95.9 DRTG
Game 3 - 109.3 ORTG, 95.6 DRTG

115.3/93.8 with Lebron on the floor tonight.

What a weird series from him so far. 23/8/7 on 69% TS with 5 TOs a game. He's looked pretty mortal for the most part, Milwaukee's done a great job on him.

The definition of coasting, and rightfully so.

Even playing at 80% intensity, he has killed the Bucks at moment.

Don't expect this to continue. He will kick it up to the next gear when he has too.

I don't think Heat or Lebron fans should be concerned with those turnovers. From watching the game today, he just wasn't interested in taking his own shot, even at the detriment of the team.

He won't do that in the next rounds, but he is just trying to get everyone touches at the moment whilst playing 'casual basketball'.

They're 3-0 up, and he isn't on the Cavs anymore where needs to go ham the entire game.

Lebron has expanded his game this season, and part of that which doesn't get mentioned often is the fact that he has learnt how to turn it off and on, and when he needs to push and when he can chill.

A series against the 8th seed who are below .500 is one of those times where you conserve your energy and play casual basketball.

[GSP]

I think Heat will win by 30 next game. Brooklyn or Chicago is in for a beating the more time the Heats spend together and rest the more dangerous theyll be. IMO theyll be at their best in the conference finals and finals Lebron always play his best against top teams

[ardee]

This is a little underwhelming from him.

During his February streak people here (including me) were predicting 30+/10+/7+ from him, the rich man's version of '91 MJ.

It's not like they're murdering the Bucks. Why has he not kicked it up a gear?

[lorak]

This is a little underwhelming from him.

During his February streak people here (including me) were predicting 30+/10+/7+ from him, the rich man's version of '91 MJ.

It's not like they're murdering the Bucks. Why has he not kicked it up a gear?

There's no point in stat padding vs weak opponent, when your team is winning by double digits (+23, +12 and +13). Keep in mind it's LeBron's third straight run to the finals (and in meantime he played in Olympic games), so he has to be careful and save his energy for later rounds, when opponents would be stronger.

[Mutnt]

This is a little underwhelming from him.

During his February streak people here (including me) were predicting 30+/10+/7+ from him, the rich man's version of '91 MJ.

It's not like they're murdering the Bucks. Why has he not kicked it up a gear?

What do you mean they're not murdering the Bucks? Lest time I checked they won the games by 23, 12, 13 with all three games practically being over in the first couple of minutes in the 4th quarter... everything after that was garbage time. Idk, maybe you expected 30-point thrashings every game?

But yeah, I totally envision this happening during the season, anyone can quote me on the matter.

I said that the competition will be just too weak for him to dominate statistically and that's exactly what's happening. He's playing 35 mpg, taking 13 FGA, only doing things in spurts and it's proving to be sufficient. He and the Heat put on one 5,6 minute dominating stretch and it's game over.

With that said, I didn't expect him to average 0.3 steals, 0 blocks and 4.7 TO's in 3 games. That's just awful. The only thing that's still making this series a solid one for LeBron is that's he's shooting 62% from the field and
that he play decent defense. Everything else is below his standards.

[mopper8]

Adjusting for a 3point HCA, and penalizing Miami for the Bucks -1.82 SRS, I get an estimated SRS so far in the playoffs of 13.18 for Miami, so I think it would be premature to start getting critical of Lebron or the team. This is despite them seeming to coast through parts of the game. Last night's game was a +14 games!

[SideshowBob]

Through the first 3 games.

+8.5 offense, -7.5 defense, +13.18 SRS

[toodles23]

Holy cow, with this Westbrook injury, Miami has the easiest path to the championship for any team in a long time.

[TheChosen618]

Holy cow, with this Westbrook injury, Miami has the easiest path to the championship for any team in a long time.

Not really.

I actually think it will be harder for the Heat now. OKC is the easiest opponent out West for Miami because of how well Miami matches up with them. I think chances are the Heat will probably play the Clippers in the Finals and the Clippers probably present the worst matchup among all teams in the NBA against the Heat. Luckily for the Heat though, Vinny Del Negro is a moron and an awful coach. Nevertheless, the Clippers will present more of a challenge to the Heat than the Thunder will.

[PCProductions]

I still don't think the Thunder are the Heat's biggest threat in the West. The matchups from last year basically haven't changed and I think we would've seen yet the same thing happen again. Personally, though I know it sounds weird, I think the Grizzlies are the team that the Heat would not want to face. Spurs are also just as threatening as the Thunder. Clippers and Nuggets are not, however.

[LikeABosh]

Holy cow, with this Westbrook injury, Miami has the easiest path to the championship for any team in a long time.

Not necessarily. Westbrook being out only limits the number of teams Miami could potentially face in the finals. San Antonio and LAC are still around and are just as much of a challenge as OKC

[SideshowBob]

Lebron career RS vs. Mbah a Moute

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G     MP     PTS     TRB     AST     TO     eFG%     TS%     TOR
16    37.8   29.3    7.2     6.5     3.9   .571     .628    .116

Lebron in Miami vs. Mbah a Moute

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G     MP     PTS     TRB     AST     TO     eFG%     TS%     TOR
8     37.3   29.6    7.5     6.1     4.0   .569     .629    .119

[toodles23]

Lebron has just been ridiculously average in this series. Another subpar game so far for him, only 8-0-1 with a turnover so far.

Edit: missing FTs, too. This has to be the worst first round of his career, right? The only other candidate is his first round last year.

[Bled]

His FTs have just been really bad lately. I'm not sure what's going on there. Aside from that, I'm not too worried about Lebron. Milwaukee is not a team that really would cause any team to escalate their level of play. Not really a good test for Miami, these easy match-ups could make Miami complacent which may bite them in the butt later on in the playoffs.

EDIT: I forgot...his TOs definitely need to be controlled. Hopefully in the next round, we'll see a more focused Lebron, especially if Chicago is the next matchup.

[Mutnt]

Meh, his sense of urgency isn't there in the last couple of games, that much is obvious. If you take Game 1 for example, he was all over the place running 100 mph, taking good shots, dunking on people's heads and trying to impact the game in any way he could. After Game 1 he's just lethargically walking up and down the court making the casual plays, one layup here, one jumper there etc.

Can't say I blame him though, Miami is so much better than Milwaukee that they'll easily sweep them even if LeBron decides to only give maximum effort for 6 minutes per game.