The 2013 NBA Free Agency Thread

Deeptu McPullup · Post #21 » by **Deeptu McPullup** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:48 am

Hey folks, just signed up and thought I'd start off chiming in here:

Despite the headlines, Ariza strikes as a definite opt out threat this offseason. His exact quote was one of, but not both of, the following:

I don't know many people who are going to leave money on the table and I'm not one of the people to do that, so most likely

I use a composting toilet in Washington because I want to plant a tree and keep a part of myself here forever.

OK, I'll just save everyone the suspense and confess that I made up the second quote.

As to the first, wow, I'm misting up over here....

Somehow, that moderately committal, off the cusp mercenary response got turned into definitive headlines that blared "Emeka Okafor, Trevor Ariza won't opt out of current contracts."

If Ariza's agent suspects that he can get more money on the open market - and there's great-green-gobs-of-greasy-grimy cap space available this summer - Ariza probably parts ways.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, but there's still a real possibility, especially if we're poised to draft a wing high.

Post #22 » by **nate33** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:55 pm

sfam wrote:Jaret Jack is playing like a stud in the playoffs so far, and, apparently, is planning to resign w/Golden State. This means our Webster MLE plan looks intact. But Beno Udrih is way overpaid right now, and probably won't be making nearly that much next year. If Orlando goes PG in the draft, I wonder if Udrih is available for the BAE. If not him, Jamaal Tinsley might be good to bring in for that or less.

Jarrett Jack is playing his way into a pretty big contract. I don't think Golden State can afford him. I don't think we can either.

doclinkin · Post #23 » by **doclinkin** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:02 pm

hoopalotta forgot his log-in? Otherwise: welcome Deeptu! Post lots and lots!

Deeptu McPullup · Post #24 » by **Deeptu McPullup** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:19 am

Hey now, I'm just trying to hustle after lose balls and get into my grove at this point, Doc.

Deivy202 · Post #25 » by **Deivy202** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:08 am

No good SF's in Free agency other than Paul Peirce who I doubt would come cheap. Only guy we should get thats worth the money if right is Josh Smith to play PF who is doing it big right now in the playoffs.
We need to just draft well and wait the year after I don't see to many that can help .

Post #26 » by **nate33** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:06 pm

What about Gary Neal for the Bi-Annual Exception?

He'd be a nice combo guard off the bench.

GhostsOfGil · Post #27 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:17 pm

Deeptu McPullup wrote:Hey now, I'm just trying to hustle after lose balls and get into my grove at this point, Doc.

This guy's got realgm steeze. I can already tell.

verbal8 · Post #28 » by **verbal8** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:25 pm

nate33 wrote:What about Gary Neal for the Bi-Annual Exception?

He'd be a nice combo guard off the bench.

I think the Spurs will re-sign Neal. I think Blair might be available, because he would cost too much for his minutes to keep.

Post #29 » by **nate33** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:32 pm

verbal8 wrote:
nate33 wrote:What about Gary Neal for the Bi-Annual Exception?

He'd be a nice combo guard off the bench.

I think the Spurs will re-sign Neal. I think Blair might be available, because he would cost too much for his minutes to keep.

I'm sure they would like to, but at what price? San Antonio needs to spend a ton of money to resign Splitter and presumably to resign Ginobili to a one-year deal. How much money to they want to spend? We all know that they're going to falter down the stretch in these playoffs. They can't win it. They're too old.

And does Gary Neal want to keep playing in San Antonio where he is a 4th guard behind Parker, Ginobili and Green, or does he want to come here where he can be a 25 mpg 3rd guard?

FAH1223 · Post #30 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:49 pm

nate33 wrote:
I'm sure they would like to, but at what price? San Antonio needs to spend a ton of money to resign Splitter and presumably to resign Ginobili to a one-year deal. How much money to they want to spend? We all know that they're going to falter down the stretch in these playoffs. They can't win it. They're too old.

And does Gary Neal want to keep playing in San Antonio where he is a 4th guard behind Parker, Ginobili and Green, or does he want to come here where he can be a 25 mpg 3rd guard?

I wouldn't say that. Duncan is playing great ball, Parker is getting healthy as is Ginobli. They have this whole week off to get Splitter back ready too.

They can win the West and challenge Miami if they play disciplined particularly their younger players. OKC is not beating them 4 out of 7 this year. I thought last year was a fluke. Lost in that series was that Duncan had his way with Ibaka and Perkins in the low post.

verbal8 · Post #31 » by **verbal8** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:51 pm

If he is available for the Bi-Annual Exception, he would be a great addition for the Wizards. Even better would be to find the next Gary Neal.

I think the Spurs may be willing to make some exceptions to their usual cost efficient moves in what will likely be Duncan's last season. I think Mills(not that good) and Blair(too expensive) are gone. Stephen Jackson is gone. Resigning Neal would allow them to use the full MLE on another player.

I think Neal and Green can both get significant minutes. Neal is the PG back-up and Green is the SF back-up. They both can play some SG. With the way San Antonio likes to rest the vets(in terms of games and minutes), there are a decent number of minutes available.

nate33 wrote:
verbal8 wrote:
nate33 wrote:What about Gary Neal for the Bi-Annual Exception?

He'd be a nice combo guard off the bench.

I think the Spurs will re-sign Neal. I think Blair might be available, because he would cost too much for his minutes to keep.

I'm sure they would like to, but at what price? San Antonio needs to spend a ton of money to resign Splitter and presumably to resign Ginobili to a one-year deal. How much money to they want to spend? We all know that they're going to falter down the stretch in these playoffs. They can't win it. They're too old.

And does Gary Neal want to keep playing in San Antonio where he is a 4th guard behind Parker, Ginobili and Green, or does he want to come here where he can be a 25 mpg 3rd guard?

FAH1223 · Post #32 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:54 pm

verbal8 wrote:If he is available for the Bi-Annual Exception, he would be a great addition for the Wizards. Even better would be to find the next Gary Neal.

I think the Spurs may be willing to make some exceptions to their usual cost efficient moves in what will likely be Duncan's last season. I think Mills(not that good) and Blair(too expensive) are gone. Stephen Jackson is gone. Resigning Neal would allow them to use the full MLE on another player.

I think Neal and Green can both get significant minutes. Neal is the PG back-up and Green is the SF back-up. They both can play some SG. With the way San Antonio likes to rest the vets(in terms of games and minutes), there are a decent number of minutes available.

I think Neal may be expendable. They have a couple other young guards in De Colo and Corey Joseph has been getting some burn in the playoffs as well.

20MexicanosIn1Van · Post #33 » by **20MexicanosIn1Van** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:29 pm

What do you guys think about Kyle Korver on this team? I think he would be great on this team, but how much would it cost to snatch him from a contender where I am sure he wants to go?

Post #34 » by **nate33** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:44 pm

20MexicanosIn1Van wrote:What do you guys think about Kyle Korver on this team? I think he would be great on this team, but how much would it cost to snatch him from a contender where I am sure he wants to go?

We can't afford both Korver and Webster. Given the choice between the two, I'd take Webster.

Webster is much younger, a better defender, better at finishing on the break, and will probably be cheaper. Korver is a better offensive player in the half court because he can be used coming off curls a la Rip Hamilton, which is why he'll probably cost more. While that would be nice to have, I think it's less needed on a team that runs the offense through Wall. I'd rather have Webster's better D and finishing ability.

verbal8 · Post #35 » by **verbal8** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:51 pm

20MexicanosIn1Van wrote:What do you guys think about Kyle Korver on this team? I think he would be great on this team, but how much would it cost to snatch him from a contender where I am sure he wants to go?

I think the full MLE might be overpaying for him, but I think he might get it. The interesting thing is their don't seem to be any contenders who would have the full MLE available(all seem above or close to the luxury tax).

Dark Faze · Post #36 » by **Dark Faze** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:57 pm

If we draft Oladipo I wonder if bringing in Jamison would be a bad idea. He played great ball for LA this year and he was a classy professional here in DC. He'd be our back up PF or SF depending on who's injured at the time, basically taking all of Singletons minutes.

Post #37 » by **nate33** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:15 pm

Dark Faze wrote:If we draft Oladipo I wonder if bringing in Jamison would be a bad idea. He played great ball for LA this year and he was a classy professional here in DC. He'd be our back up PF or SF depending on who's injured at the time, basically taking all of Singletons minutes.

At this point, Jamison would be death to our defense. His already bad defense has taken a significant turn for the worse. I'd take him for the vet minimum or the BAE, but he'll probably cost more than that.

Nivek · Post #38 » by **Nivek** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:16 pm

I would not be in favor of bringing Jamison back, unless it was the kind of signing that happened a few days before training camp and the team had already struck out on signing other guys for frontcourt depth. He's a good guy, but he a) didn't play "great ball" for the Lakers this year; and b) his defense is even worse now than it was when he was in DC previously.

dobrojim · Post #39 » by **dobrojim** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:58 pm

and it was woefully poor (D) then

he's not the answer for us as far as getting a stretch 4

jivelikenice · Post #40 » by **jivelikenice** » Tue May 7, 2013 4:25 am

I keep going back & forth on Martell and the MLE. On one hand is a great "team" guy and his shooting compliments Wall greatly. However he's not great defensively, can't create his own shot, and has health issues. I'd sign him to a Danny Green type deal 9 times out of 10 but is this the one other time? We're over the cap so any chunk of the MLE pretty much knocks us out of the running for any other FA of significance. I mean wouldn't this team be better off with a Jarret Jack or a Nate Robinson as a third guard and starting Ariza at the 3? Nate can be that bench scorer for us and can share the court with John or Brad. He also gives us a insurance policy in case John does miss any significant action. Using the MlE is big....I just don't want to waste it when better options might be out there. A lineup of Wall, Beal, Ariza, Okafor,Néne with Nate, Seraphin, Booker, and our first round pick is an easy playoff team. We also could still use the BAE on a '12 Martell type of FA like a Wes Johnson....or give Martell the max allowable raise to his current deal and tell him he'll get paid when we have cap space next summer.