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Roster speculation 

Post#1 » by eagle13 » Wed May 1, 2013 5:18 pm

With the drafted & un-drafted rookies selected/signed most everyone who will make the final roster is with us now. Even if a vet FA is signed and plays well, odds are TT will cut them like Muir last pre-season in favor of the younger player.

OFFENSE-24
GB has typically kept 24 or 25 offensive players on 53 man roster. I see 24 this year.

OL-8
GB has typically kept 9 OL on 53 man roster until last season when TT kept only 7 OL – the same number that are usually active on the 46 man game day roster. He’ll likely keep 8 this year depending on rookie development, veteran injury recovery and talent at other positions. IF TT wants 5 TE or 6 WR or 4 RB this year the OL has to give up a spot.

The 3 interior starters- Sitton Lang EDS - are all that’s set. Bulaga is a starting OT but whether he’s on left or right depends on the rest of the OL candidates. IF Bulaga moves to LT Barclay is likely starting RT. If Bulaga stays RT Barclay is almost certain to stick as backup at RT & RG. That’s 5 guys. Will the two 4th rdrs be like which past 4th rdr – successful like Sitton or bust like Barbre? Probably somewhere in between to begin. So unless one or both clearly stink – both are almost a lock for roster spot b/c they would likely be signed away by another team if GB put them on the PS. I doubt either are the starting LT as Tretter is already targeted for C & Bakhtiara may be destined for G. This means unless VanRoten clearly out- performs them he’ll be cut and Pack will rely on two rookies as the interior reserves with Barclay. That’s 7 guys and still no LT. Newhouse, Sherrod, Datko, Bulaga and Bakhtiara are the candidates. Pick your poison. We’ve debated this plenty

RB/FB-3/1
GB has kept 3 RB & 1 FB for a couple years since the 3 FB year of Hall, Quinn & Kuhn. Lacy & Franklin are locks. Harris out played Starks & Green last season and that’s the likely result of TC competition among the 3. TT won’t keep a mediocre 4th RB over a 6th WR or extra TE. And Kuhn sticks one more year.

WR-6
TT likes his WR. He’s kept 6 and likely will again. Jordy, JJ & Cobb are the guys. Then 2nd yr guys Boykins & Ross and 7th rdrs Johnson & Dorsey. Unless Boykin regresses like Biodrel did last year he’ll be #4. Will Ross prove himself as THE Return guy? If not he’s gone. Johnson & Dorsey will likely be tried as KPR but have no previous experience. Guessing Ross claims KPR and CJ beats out Dorsey who goes to PS.

TE-4
TT loves TE & ILB b/c their size/speed profile is ideal for ST. Last year he kept 5. Finley is uncontested starter. Mulligan owns a spot as a blocker. IF Quarless is 100% he’s #2 – if not he could be cut. IF Williams doesn’t make a jump he’s likely gone. Taylor was exceptional on ST. I expect he sticks and the battle is between Q & DJ as I expect only 4 are kept this year as OL or DL gets the extra roster spot. IF both excel then Taylor may go or the defense loses a spot.

QB-2
TT stays with 2. Battle between harrill & Campbell for #2 and PS.


DEFENSE- 26
GB has typically kept 24 to 26 defensive players on 53 man roster. I see 26 this year.

DL-7
Raji & Pickett are sure starters. Jones & Wilson battle for other base starting DE. 5th rdr Boyd sticks as another run stuffer. He’d get signed away if we put him on PS like 7th rdr Guy was last year. No sense TT volume drafting if he’s going to give them away. Neal & Daniels are doing a good job as inside rushers & will be joined by Jones. Worthy will start on PUP. That’s 7 and TT usually keeps 6 - but- unless Boyd excels enough to allow Wilson release - w/ Pick’s age & his & Raji’s contract up I think DL gets the coveted extra spot this year.

OLB-4
Clay, Perry, Moses are sure. 6th rdr Palmer could stick but also would be safe on PS if someone else steps up – maybe Lattimore moves back? Depth is provided by swing ability of Jones.

ILB-5
Hawk, Bishop, Jones, Manning & Francois are set. Lattimore is good on ST but unless he returns to OLB he’s gone. 7th rdr Barriington goes PS.

CB-6
Tramon & Shields probably start. Hayward is Nickel slot. House may get dime or possibly take Tramon’s spot if he falters. 5th rdr Hyde will be inactive while he learns. Bush is great ST gunner & decent 5th CB.

S-4
Burnett is SS. Richardson backs him up. Not drafting one of the plentiful FS signals confidence in McMillian who again competes w/ Jennings. TT won’t sign a vet like Rhodes. Why? The young guys are a year better.

ROSTER – 53

OFFENSE – 24
QB Rodgers / Harrill
RB Lacy / Franklin / Harris
FB Kuhn
WR Cobb / Boylan / CJohnson
WR Nelson / JonesJ / Ross
TE Finley / Quarless / Mulligan / Taylor
LT Bulaga / Newhouse
LG Lang / Bakhtiara
C EDS / Tretter
RG Sitton
RT Barclay

DEFENSE – 26
LDE Raji / Neal
NT Pickett / Boyd
RDE JonesD / Wilson / Daniels
LOLB Perry / Lattimore
LILB Bishop / JonesB
RILB Hawk / Francois / Manning
ROLB Matthews / Moses
LCB Williams / House / Hyde
RCB Shields / Hayward / Bush
SS Burnett / Richardson
FS McMillian / Jennings

DEFENSIVE SUB-PACKAGES
NB Hayward / Hyde
DM House / Jennings
DT Neal / Daniels
DT JonesD / Raji
CLB JonesB / Manning

SPECIAL TEAMS - 3
K Crosby
P Masthay
LS Goode
KR Ross / Nelson
PR Ross / Cobb

PRACTICE SQUAD - 7
Campbell QB
Palmer- OLB -6th
Dorsey WR -7th
Barrington ILB -7th
Datko OT
Means CB
Miller NT

PUP
Worthy DE

How do you guys see it?
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Re: Roster speculation 

Post#2 » by emunney » Wed May 1, 2013 6:00 pm

I like this even though it's a pointless exercise:

OFFENSE (25)

QB (2)- Rodgers, Coleman
RB (5)- Lacy, Harris, Franklin, Harris, Green
FB (0)- NO FB WHAAAAAA? It's time.
WR (5) - Cobb, Nelson, Jones, Ross, Johnson
TE (5)- Finley, Quarless, Bostic, Taylor, Mulligan
OL (8) - Sherrod, Lang, EDS, Sitton, Bulaga, Bakhtiari, Tretter, Barclay

DEFENSE (25)
DL (6) - Jones, Raji, Wilson, Neal, Boyd, Daniels
LB (9) - Matthews, Perry, Bishop, Hawk, Jones, Manning, Moses, Palmer, Lattimore
CB (6) - Shields, Williams, Hayward, House, Hyde, Nixon
S (4) - Burnett, McMillian, Jennings, Richardson

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Re: Roster speculation 

Post#3 » by Newz » Wed May 1, 2013 6:06 pm

emunney wrote:RB (5)- Lacy, Harris, Franklin, Harris, Green


Did you mean to include Starks?
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Post#4 » by Wilford Brimley » Wed May 1, 2013 6:08 pm

Good stuff. Gonna be exciting to see how this shakes out.

Got to think WR Johnson gets picked up if we put him on the PS.

Guys whos hould be worried, IMO: Starks, Benson (too bad, I thought he played well, just no room for him), AQ or DJ Williams, Kuhn (I think he stays, God only knows why), off the top of my head.
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Post#5 » by Wilford Brimley » Wed May 1, 2013 6:10 pm

Newz wrote:
emunney wrote:RB (5)- Lacy, Harris, Franklin, Harris, Green


Did you mean to include Starks?


Not sherrif serious.
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Re: Roster speculation 

Post#6 » by Newz » Wed May 1, 2013 6:14 pm

Wilford Brimley wrote:
Newz wrote:
emunney wrote:RB (5)- Lacy, Harris, Franklin, Harris, Green


Did you mean to include Starks?


Not sherrif serious.


Harris can't take up two roster spots... Unless there is another Harris that I'm forgetting about.
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Re: Roster speculation 

Post#7 » by RiotPunch » Wed May 1, 2013 6:32 pm

emunney wrote:I like this even though it's a pointless exercise:

OFFENSE (25)

QB (2)- Rodgers, Coleman
RB (5)- Lacy, Harris, Franklin, Harris, Green
FB (0)- NO FB WHAAAAAA? It's time.
WR (5) - Cobb, Nelson, Jones, Ross, Johnson
TE (5)- Finley, Quarless, Bostic, Taylor, Mulligan
OL (8) - Sherrod, Lang, EDS, Sitton, Bulaga, Bakhtiari, Tretter, Barclay

DEFENSE (25)
DL (6) - Jones, Raji, Wilson, Neal, Boyd, Daniels
LB (9) - Matthews, Perry, Bishop, Hawk, Jones, Manning, Moses, Palmer, Lattimore
CB (6) - Shields, Williams, Hayward, House, Hyde, Nixon
S (4) - Burnett, McMillian, Jennings, Richardson

Same ol' specialists (3)


No Pickett?
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Post#8 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Wed May 1, 2013 6:45 pm

I'm for any depth chart that doesn't include da Kuhn.
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Post#9 » by emunney » Wed May 1, 2013 6:54 pm

Harris accelerates so fast he appears to occupy two roster spots at the same time. Newhouse is spared.

OFFENSE (25)

QB (2)- Rodgers, Coleman
RB (4)- Lacy, Harris, Franklin, Green
FB (0)- NO FB WHAAAAAA? It's time.
WR (5) - Cobb, Nelson, Jones, Ross, Johnson
TE (5)- Finley, Quarless, Bostic, Taylor, Mulligan
OL (9) - Sherrod, Lang, EDS, Sitton, Bulaga, Bakhtiari, Tretter, Barclay, Newhouse

DEFENSE (25)
DL (6) - Jones, Raji, Wilson, Neal, Boyd, Daniels
LB (9) - Matthews, Perry, Bishop, Hawk, Jones, Manning, Moses, Palmer, Lattimore
CB (6) - Shields, Williams, Hayward, House, Hyde, Nixon
S (4) - Burnett, McMillian, Jennings, Richardson

Same ol' specialists (3)

RiotPunch wrote:No Pickett?


Correct. We save over 5m and put it toward Raji, Shields and Neal.
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Post#10 » by RiotPunch » Wed May 1, 2013 8:30 pm

Don't see the point in cutting Pickett for this year with Worthy's injury and the fact that he's a FA after the season anyways. He's still a huge part of our defense.
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Post#11 » by emunney » Wed May 1, 2013 8:32 pm

The point is he's expensive and old and we need the money for longer term propositions.
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Post#12 » by RiotPunch » Wed May 1, 2013 8:43 pm

I could see a pay cut, but not letting him go altogether. Could be wrong, since TT went DL early, but I feel like the near $12M we still have left for this year is enough to extend those guys, or at least 2 of the 3. I think we should wait a season to pay Raji big bucks too. Make him earn it since there are question marks surrounding him.
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Post#13 » by emunney » Wed May 1, 2013 8:56 pm

I'm making the projection based on the assumption that he'll take a step back and the younger guys will step up. I doubt we keep more than 6 DL considering we only play 2 on most snaps. IIRC Pickett played about half our snaps last year. I see that number declining whether or not he does, and I think he will. So Boyd replaces Pickett for 1/10 the cost.

Could very well not happen. I probably just threw it out there because I secretly wanted to have this discussion.
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Post#14 » by RiotPunch » Wed May 1, 2013 9:04 pm

Yeah, I mean he is definitely a guy we need to replace very soon. You just took me by surprise having it happen this season. :) But hell, if Boyd plays at or above Pickett's level in TC and Worthy continues his speedy recovery, then I could get behind releasing Pickett... I just think those might be too high of expectations.

But, who ever knows for sure with Ted? You could be right.
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Post#15 » by eagle13 » Wed May 1, 2013 9:11 pm

boyd is an exciting prospect but green. He'll learn over the season. But IF we want to win Pickett is needed especially since defending the run needs the most help. Next year will be interesting w/ both Pick & Raji FAs and Jordy & JJ & Finley also.
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Post#16 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed May 1, 2013 9:49 pm

eagle13 wrote:TT won’t sign a vet like Rhodes. Why? The young guys are a year better.


No, it's because he doesn't want to tempt himself.

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Post#17 » by jakecronus8 » Wed May 1, 2013 9:52 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:
eagle13 wrote:TT won’t sign a vet like Rhodes. Why? The young guys are a year better.


No, it's because he doesn't want to tempt himself.

:eyebrows:

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Post#18 » by gbmb34 » Thu May 2, 2013 5:06 am

Cutting Pickett would be a step in the wrong direction. When he was out last year, GB's run d went from below average to awful.
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Post#19 » by emunney » Thu May 2, 2013 1:20 pm

He played every game last year. He left the Saints game early but came back the next week. The Saints ran for 45 yards on 19 carries. You must be thinking of Wilson.
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Post#20 » by gbmb34 » Thu May 2, 2013 6:00 pm

emunney wrote:He played every game last year. He left the Saints game early but came back the next week. The Saints ran for 45 yards on 19 carries. You must be thinking of Wilson.


You're right about last year. I was thinking about the Super Bowl season. Sad that it was that last ago :(
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