Brooklyn Nets 2013 Draft Prospects

[HelloBrooklyn]

What do you guys think of Isaiah Austin? 7 foot freshman who still has room to grow, 7'4 wingspan, and with some the most unique skillset. The guy has descent handles for a 7 footer and can shoot. I've never seen him play just highlights. However, he looks pretty good.

The only knock I have in him is that he has a skinny body frame. However, if he can play PF this guy will have some intriguing potential

[Jersey Generals]

He can't play power forward. He runs and moves as if he's in quicksand.

[Jersey Generals]

It just hit me that we gave Atlanta a pick in the very late teens to very early 20's as well in the JJ trade...

What type of GM not only gives the pick swap option in back to back years with no protection for taking on the 2nd worst contract in the NBA for expirings, but also includes a 2017 2nd round pick, and then also includes a 2013 1st round pick but doesn't even include a stipulation such as "the worst of Houston and their own 2013 1st round pick"?

WTF man? Billy King is a certified window licker.

What are you talking about, man? That was a great trade! You just don't know anything.

[NyCeEvO]

It just hit me that we gave Atlanta a pick in the very late teens to very early 20's as well in the JJ trade...

What type of GM not only gives the pick swap option in back to back years with no protection for taking on the 2nd worst contract in the NBA for expirings, but also includes a 2017 2nd round pick, and then also includes a 2013 1st round pick but doesn't even include a stipulation such as "the worst of Houston and their own 2013 1st round pick"?

WTF man? Billy King is a certified window licker.

That's why I laughed when a Knick fan was arguing with me and trying to say that BK was good GM.

People just don't understand how inept he is when it comes to understanding the value of the assets you have.

[N Ireland Nets]

What do you guys think of Isaiah Austin? 7 foot freshman who still has room to grow, 7'4 wingspan, and with some the most unique skillset. The guy has descent handles for a 7 footer and can shoot. I've never seen him play just highlights. However, he looks pretty good.

The only knock I have in him is that he has a skinny body frame. However, if he can play PF this guy will have some intriguing potential

There really isn't much between most of the centers entering the draft.

Outside of Len and Gobert the rest could all be at least backup big men in the NBA.

I really think the strides that Nogueira where he has really vastly improved in one season as a 20 year old in the 2nd best league in the world in the ACB.

That's why he's such an interesting prospect in my eyes. I'd love to get a late round 1st on top of our current 1st round pick to go and add the likes of Lucas Nogueira to our roster or assets.

[N Ireland Nets]

It just hit me that we gave Atlanta a pick in the very late teens to very early 20's as well in the JJ trade...

What type of GM not only gives the pick swap option in back to back years with no protection for taking on the 2nd worst contract in the NBA for expirings, but also includes a 2017 2nd round pick, and then also includes a 2013 1st round pick but doesn't even include a stipulation such as "the worst of Houston and their own 2013 1st round pick"?

WTF man? Billy King is a certified window licker.

That's why I laughed when a Knick fan was arguing with me and trying to say that BK was good GM.

People just don't understand how inept he is when it comes to understanding the value of the assets you have.

If you break down the assets he has had and the players he has added, it's really a joke.

Williams, Johnson and Wallace brought in, with Wallace having been available as a free agent so shouldn't of cost us a thing.

Johnson could've been had for any expiring deals because his deal is so bad.

King had the advantage of being able to spend as much money as he wanted no matter what the tax cost was yet he has brought up a decent to good team who aren't contenders.

King is a joke but one of the areas he seems to have done well and I'll give him credit for is his drafting.

Brooks, Taylor, Toko & Bogdanovic all have more value than the position they were selected in my view.

[Petrofor3]

So just like Saric said, unless he was a likely lotto pick he wouldn't enter the draft.

Don't no why I convinced myself that he would be around whenever we select in the 1st round.

Aw well, who do we take then?

Wouldn't mind big Jeff Withey

Saric would have been a first round pick but he made the right move not to enter the draft. Missing all that time as he had no team stunted his progression. Saric needs to work on his shooting but the kid works hard and is not your typical lazy Croatian from the dalmatian coast. There is some shady things with Dario with his father trying to ruin his own sons career and nobody knows who paid for Dario's buyout. I used to think Saric was a sure thing to become a good NBA player but with all the drama he has had to go through im not so sure if he is going to be just another eternal talent who never makes it.

[Petrofor3]

Apparently Saric's gent is running the show as now he is entering the draft. Saric is preojected to be a mid to late first round pick. Wojo has confirmed this from yahoo.

[NyCeEvO]

James McAdoo returning to UNC so you can stratch him off the list of possible candidates.

[N Ireland Nets]

Been super busy lately but after watching the Nike Hoops Summit and talking to a few people who have seen him quite a few times, I'm really liking Sergey Karasev. For 19 years old he is an old head on young shoulders and with him being a real 3 point threat he could be a nice pick up late in the draft. Yes he is a SF but he is a completely different type of player to Toko. Sergey is a more polished prospect where as Toko is all energy and grit.

I'm actually really starting to like this draft, there is a lot of good players but I'd hate it with a passion if I was a lottery team due to the real limited number of future stars, if any.

But this draft really could produce the best player at 20th overall when we look back in a few years and therefore it's an exciting draft for Brooklyn.

Anyway have a look at the Nike Hoop Summit which helps give a better idea on a few international players entering the draft either this year or in 2014.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtrJ3kWJVz0[/youtube]

[N Ireland Nets]

DraftExpress just made a post breaking down how the different players performed throughout the Nike Summit, in training etc.

Sergey Karasev, 6'7, Shooting Guard/Small Forward, Triumph, 1993, Russia

One of the first international players we evaluated this season, and for a good reason, Sergey Karasev is years ahead of the learning curve of the average 19 year-old European prospect, and it showed all week in Portland.

Having already appeared in the Olympics for the Russian national team and leading the country's top basketball league, the PBL, in scoring, Karasev is likely the most productive young prospect in all of European basketball. Able to attend the Nike Hoop Summit thanks to some fortunate scheduling that did not force him to miss any game action for Triumph Lyubertsy, he was clearly the most mature player in attendance.

The son of a coach and former player, Karasev impacted the World Select Team's practices and the game itself with his high basketball IQ, even when he wasn't scoring. An extremely savvy passer, Karasev is unselfish and possesses excellent court vision. Forcing very little this week, he was content to take a complimentary role, but still managed to impress with his feel for the game and decision-making.

Karasev did most of his damage offensively in catch and shoot situations, taking advantage on the occasions when he found himself open. Shooting the ball with great range and effortless mechanics with his feet set, Karasev impressed scouts with his prolific perimeter shooting both in drills and game action to the point that it was surprising to see him miss at times. Making 38% of his 3-pointers this season, Karasev's numbers belie his consistency from the perimeter given the defensive pressure he regularly faces.

When Karasev did attack, he showed deft touch on his pull-up jump shot and the ability to create for teammates. Lacking great foot speed and strength, particularly as a finisher around the rim, Karasev is not a prolific threat off the bounce one-on-one, but can take what defenders give him.

His defensive potential is the biggest question mark regarding his NBA potential at this point. Karasev put good effort in on this end of the floor, but needs to continue to add strength to his 197 pound frame and work on his technique if he's able to handle the very athletic wing players he'll face on a nightly basis in the NBA. His 6-9 wingspan isn't terrible, and he certainly didn't embarrass himself, even matching up with Andrew Wiggins on a daily basis, but he'll have to continue to improve here to show he can hold his own.

An aggressive, decisive, and confident scorer in the European game, Karasev showed the ability to seamlessly translate his game into a smaller role this week, a promising sign considering the role he'd likely be asked to play early in his NBA career. Having already put his name in the draft and extremely flexible with regard to when he would like to make the jump to the NBA, Karasev is among the most intriguing international prospects in this draft and certainly helped himself in Portland.


From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2RUhTuh2R
http://www.draftexpress.com

Here's a short video of the international team practicing. Karasev is the number 10 and has a smooth stroke. I'm starting to like him more and more due to his experience at such a young age and also because he fill's a huge hole as a spot up shooter on our roster who can also score so he's not just a novak/morrow type of player.

Then spend the $3m to get back in for a late 1st rounder to pick up another big man. But check out the videos anyway.

So who do you guys want to take?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmpFm2Q-lpQ&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

[N Ireland Nets]

As playoffs and therefore season comes to a close we will be depending on hitting the jackpot with a pick in the 20's at this years draft.

It really is crazy important we somehow find a good player to add in the 1st round.

[N Ireland Nets]

So I was looking at more tape of Dario Saric and he's just a really intriguing prospect. He just isn't normal and for some people that's a bad thing and others good.

He has one of the highest ceilings in this entire draft because he does so many things well with a very high basketball IQ. He's so skilled for a big man he is starting to remind me of a Lamar Odom type of big man miss match. Don't get me wrong, Saric isn't ready to do big things for Brooklyn if we draft him because he needs developed and therefore he would be a project pick still. But it would be worth it in my view.

At this point I don't know if he has the quickness to be able to compete at SF in the NBA, I've got a feeling he's going to end up a stretch 4 but I could be wrong time will tell. The thing is he isn't a normal stretch the floor 4 where his shooting spaces the floor out due to his shot not being very consistent. It's all about the skills and passing with Saric. He will find the open man every time without fail BUT he is perfectly capable of getting to the rim to score himself.

Anyway as I said I've been watching his games a lot more recently and from the start of the season at Cibona he is starting to really get into the groove in the playoffs by the looks of it becoming more and more comfortable.

Looking back the Nike Hoops summit at Karasev etc in 2012 it got me thinking about prior Nike Summits and how players performed. I watched the 2011 and 2012 summits to see how players did and decided to jot down how Saric got on in both.

in 2011, Saric played against Beal, Davis, Teague, Gilchrist, Rivers & McAdoo. His stats were interesting for being younger than everyone else:

15mins playing time, 7 points (3-6FGM), 6 rebounds (3 Off & 3 Def) 1 assist. Nothing spectacular but a nice performance in limited minutes for someone going at the competition being a year younger.

Then I looked at last years summit (2012) which let me look again at players such as Noel, McGary & Shabazz. Outside of McGary the other 2 are lotto picks this year with Noel probably going 1st overall. On the world team was Wiggins, who is most likely going number 1 overall in 2014 and Anthony Bennett also who is a highly touted top 5 pick in the 2013 draft. So again I looked at the tape of the game and it looked clear to me that Saric completely outplayed Bennett at the PF position who did little to nothing apart from nail a deep 3 to ice the game down the final few secs of the clock.

Saric Stats
25mins playing time, 13 points (5-10FGM), 14 rebounds (4 Off & 10 Def) and 5 assists (most assists in the game from both sides).

This has to be remembered that Saric played some minutes at SF, mostly PF and even some at center. His passing looked very good while his defense needs worked he did fine on that end. Rebounding wise Saric is a good rebounder who boxes out well and attacks the ball on both ends of the glass. Passing wise Saric should've had more assists but the World team missed quite a few open looks and even a point blank dunk, the guy CJ Watson'd a dunk haha.

That was a year ago against players who will be drafted higher than Saric and while Noel et all all played in the NCAA Saric had another season against men in professional basketball. I really like Saric's game and believe he could turn into something special but it's going to take plenty of patience from the organization to let Saric adjust and find a position he will be comfortable with.

Anyway, baring in mind this was a year ago have a look at the 2012 Nike Hoops summit:

The times Saric is in the game wearing number 12:

1st half
0:37:00mins - 0:55:00mins
01:14:00mins - 01:21:00mins (halftime)

2nd half
01:38:00mins - 01:40:00mins
01:42:00mins - 01:58:00mins <------ Probably Saric's best stint on the floor
02:03:00mins - 02:09:0mins
02:16:00mins - 02:32:00mins Game Ends

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmmK7FU43U8&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

We're going to be in an interesting position I believe on draft night outside of trading up. We could quite possibly have to choose between the likes of Saric, Karasev, Adams, Withey, Dieng, Adetokunbo and Mitchell. If we spend our $3m which you know we will, we should be able to purchase a late 1st this year due to the new lux tax and perceived lack of talent in this years draft.


I'd love to walk away from the draft this year with Saric or Karasev and then Nogueira with a bought late 1st rounder. At the minutes that's what I'd be looking to do in this draft.

Another highly risky option could be to move up late lotto if someone like Rudy Gobert began to slid which is anticipated. Maybe target the OKC or Dallas pick to move up to using Brooks, Bogdanovic, our pick & $3m. Bogdanovic is a lottery pick in 2013 if he was in the draft but it's a question of whether or not the Nets are willing to wait till 2014 for Bogs to join the Nets.

We have some options on draft night and I'm expecting big things. But so long as we get a big man to play backup center behind Lopez, anything else is a bonus because Blatche is capable of starting at PF for us until we spunk our last assets trying to find a PF going forward using Humps big expiring and future picks.

[deepblueday]

i've enjoyed your posts in this thread, NIN.

i'm still intrigued by tony mitchell. despite his misguided approach and horrible underachieving as a creative option, it isn't difficult for me to envision him in a much more defined NBA role as a garbage man. it's not often you have the opportunity to draft a player this late that's a 99%er in terms of athleticism, and who has demonstrated solid instincts and skill on both sides of the ball.

[deepblueday]

btw anyone else completely not ready to buy into this "bogdanovic is a lotto pick" party line? i mean, sure, i hope he turns out great or we parlay him for real value, but is there any indication whatsoever that this 6'8 sort of flabby, slow footed shooter is going to be able to keep up and/or guard anyone at the NBA level?

[N Ireland Nets]

btw anyone else completely not ready to buy into this "bogdanovic is a lotto pick" party line? i mean, sure, i hope he turns out great or we parlay him for real value, but is there any indication whatsoever that this 6'8 sort of flabby, slow footed shooter is going to be able to keep up and/or guard anyone at the NBA level?

He's played against NBA teams and performed well. He's a very talented lad who a lot of teams had interest in at the deadline again, looking to trade for him to bring him over this summer.

In fact nearly all the interest at the deadline in Nets players was for Toko, Teletovic & Bogdanovic.

BTW deepblueday, about Mitchell, I haven't watched him nearly enough to make a judgement on any of the NCAA guys so I only talk about talented I've watched because i wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about then.

So why not say why you like Mitchell etc because I really no next to nothing about him.