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Re: Nuggets @ Warriors game 6 

Post#21 » by Teens On Acid » Fri May 3, 2013 5:39 am

game's done man it's not worth breaking your heart even more over
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Post#22 » by torotoe » Fri May 3, 2013 7:45 am

DaFan334 wrote:Can someone get a clip or pic of that blown out of bounds call? I'm seriously baffled no media seems to have noticed it besides Altitude. A tie game with 11 seconds left is a huge difference.


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Post#23 » by floppymoose » Fri May 3, 2013 8:30 am

Are they allowed to decide it wasn't out at all on replay? That might have been the problem. They might have to stick with the out of bounds call and only be allowed to decide who touched it last before it went "out".

I found this doc:
http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/media ... ations.pdf

It seems to support the idea that they only get to decide who it went out off of. I don't think they get to overrule the out of bounds issue itself.
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Post#24 » by CaptainFanchini » Fri May 3, 2013 10:58 am

No Gallo, no party :(
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Post#25 » by darivo » Fri May 3, 2013 3:26 pm

ok, another second quarter where Jack owned Miller in every transition.

Karl-Miller never was able to stop it.
It was a very easy baskets, and in the second Q i think Denver had some chances to broke the match.

Evan and Randolph were out of the rotation. i think it was a very bad new for the team.

Karl was owned by Jackson. Miller was the worst thing in this round (with D.Lee out), no Deffense no easy ball movement in attack. He didn't his teammates better with him.

The refs was like they are in home games.
too much contact in the zone and only 4ft for lawson.
No ft for Wilson.
some very questionable fouls for McGee and Kostas.
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Post#26 » by ChuckS » Sat May 4, 2013 12:01 pm

darivo wrote:ok, another second quarter where Jack owned Miller in every transition.

Karl-Miller never was able to stop it.



I believe those to be false statements. I always liked Jack, and thought he played very well in the series. I thought he was particularly impressive in the first three games but that Karl's adjustments helped in the last three.

I remember, in that second quarter, thinking: "Oh, oh, Dre's shooting is off again this game, "they" are going to crucify him...but at least they can't whine about his defense, this time." I underestimated.

I thought that quarter was least demonstrative of Jarrett's good play in the series. In fact, I thought it was one of his poorest, or at least most mediocre.

He did make two baskets (the same as Dre), but also missed five other attempts. He had a turnover to a steal, and another on a 24 second shot clock violation. He also had no assists.

Do not misunderstand me. His performance was hardly a disgrace, considering his overall series excellence. But, on the other hand, to imply he was dominant in that quarter is, quite frankly, IMO, just wrong.
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Post#27 » by darivo » Sat May 4, 2013 5:31 pm

Hello

Maybe my English is poor and sometimes I have some difficulties to write in the right way (i'll try to improve this summer hehehhe)
My principal reason against Miller's defense is about his ability to allow easy basket.

Jack got 2 or 3 easy basket in transition. Miller didn't stop him; he never do that.

I think Miller is the worst defender in the NBA so far.
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Re: Nuggets @ Warriors game 6 

Post#28 » by ChuckS » Sun May 5, 2013 10:24 am

darivo wrote:Maybe my English is poor and sometimes I have some difficulties to write in the right way (i'll try to improve this summer hehehhe)


Hi Darivo -- I understand the difficulty but think you actually do a very good job. I think your posts are both understandable and enjoyable. I just sometimes differ with your analysis.

darivo wrote:Jack got 2 or 3 easy basket in transition. Miller didn't stop him; he never do that.


My experience has been that every point guard, most shooting guards, and many small forwards blow by any and every player in every game, at any given time. That is a fact of life and basketball. I'm sure you've watched Lawson, CP3, and Westbrook. To attack a player because his man got two baskets in a quarter just seems silly to me. In any event I thought Dre's defense was very good in that quarter, and thought criticism was so inappropriate as to seem the continuation of a compulsive agenda.

darivo wrote:I think Miller is the worst defender in the NBA so far.


That is your absolute right and I commend your strong belief and tenacity. Sadly, however, you are wrong. Miller is nowhere close to even being the worst defender on the team.

Karl attempted to fix a mistake by taking "your man", Evan, out of the starting lineup. It was rather a drastic action because I can't remember him playing him the rest of the series. That, at least gave us a chance to win, although it proved inadequate to "cork the bottle after the Genie was out". Iguodala was on Klay to start and throughout much of the series and actually held him to under his average and kept him from exploding. We were decimated by Steph and Jarrett and, in fairness, the awesome play of Bogut.

I will not fault Lawson, or anyone else, including Miller, for being unable to stop the best shooter in the game when he is red hot. So that left Fournier, who made Jack look like the second best shooter in basketball.

You can doubt me, and even be as skeptical of defensive metrics as am I, but "82Games.com" lists Evan Fournier as having the thirteenth (13th) "best" opponent production on the team. By the way, that is
significantly below where they list Miller.

Karl wised up, and I became a believer, but I suspect our natural instinctive love and protective instincts for youth will never allow some to believe the truth. Unlike the Asian countries we, at least on internet basketball sites, seem to minimize the value of the wisdom, experience, and learned technique of veterans. (That is only my observation. I could be, and maybe even am, undoubtedly wrong.)

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