"1 Shy of Success" : The story of the 2013 Nets
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We fell 1 short of all our realistic goals this season, and of everything we fans wanted for this season to be a good jump off point and to consider it successful:
50 wins. We fell short if that by 1. Because we lost to a raptors team with nothing to play for in game 81 of the season. not a huge deal, but they were clearly gunning for 50 wins, and for a higher seed, and fell short. disappointing.
The atlantic division. We certainly all wanted it. we got close several times. We fell short... we finished in 2nd instead of first. 1 spot shy. again, disappointing.
A first round playoff win. we had HCA. we got it to 7 games. our opponent was decimated with injuries. and we lost, without putting up much of a fight. we fell 1 game short of getting to round 2. disappointment.
The first big game in brooklyn/barclays history, and it ends in giant disappointment. just a bad way to kick off the franchise in brooklyn. hard to call a 49 win season where you make the playoffs upsetting after recently losing 70 games, but i certainly am more upset now then i was at the end of that season.
this team might have been a winning team, but it still has that disappointing loser stench all over them.
50 wins. We fell short if that by 1. Because we lost to a raptors team with nothing to play for in game 81 of the season. not a huge deal, but they were clearly gunning for 50 wins, and for a higher seed, and fell short. disappointing.
The atlantic division. We certainly all wanted it. we got close several times. We fell short... we finished in 2nd instead of first. 1 spot shy. again, disappointing.
A first round playoff win. we had HCA. we got it to 7 games. our opponent was decimated with injuries. and we lost, without putting up much of a fight. we fell 1 game short of getting to round 2. disappointment.
The first big game in brooklyn/barclays history, and it ends in giant disappointment. just a bad way to kick off the franchise in brooklyn. hard to call a 49 win season where you make the playoffs upsetting after recently losing 70 games, but i certainly am more upset now then i was at the end of that season.
this team might have been a winning team, but it still has that disappointing loser stench all over them.
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I'm not sure why anyone expected anything above what we saw from this fraudulent team this year.
They beat up on garbage teams, and got their asses handed to them by teams worth a damn night after night.
Won't be any different next year either with garbage like Johnson, Wallace, and Lopez on the roster.
They beat up on garbage teams, and got their asses handed to them by teams worth a damn night after night.
Won't be any different next year either with garbage like Johnson, Wallace, and Lopez on the roster.
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Wallace and JJ...smh. Can't believe we're committed to these two useless players for the next 3 years.
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Could someone actually put together all of the trash-talking that Joe Johnson did this season? Talk about a guy that never backed himself up. Two examples off the top of my head:
Talked trash about the Knicks, played like **** in 3 out of 4 games.
Talked about how we were a confident team that should win this series, played like **** in 6 out of 7 games, including the game 7.
I'm tired of having this guy talk up a big game and then expect other players to follow through on it for him...how about you actually step up when you talk a big game instead of disappearing like you have your entire career? **** ing loser.
I honestly feel that much of that loser mentality and lack of effort and passion comes from him. Looks half asleep the whole time he's out there...never looks like he cares...and worst of all, almost EVERY TIME he touches the ball, he kills ball movement and devolves the possession into lazy, boring, half-assed ISO basketball for himself. That's what kills our intensity more than anything imo.
Talked trash about the Knicks, played like **** in 3 out of 4 games.
Talked about how we were a confident team that should win this series, played like **** in 6 out of 7 games, including the game 7.
I'm tired of having this guy talk up a big game and then expect other players to follow through on it for him...how about you actually step up when you talk a big game instead of disappearing like you have your entire career? **** ing loser.
I honestly feel that much of that loser mentality and lack of effort and passion comes from him. Looks half asleep the whole time he's out there...never looks like he cares...and worst of all, almost EVERY TIME he touches the ball, he kills ball movement and devolves the possession into lazy, boring, half-assed ISO basketball for himself. That's what kills our intensity more than anything imo.
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PetroNet wrote:We fell 1 short of all our realistic goals this season, and of everything we fans wanted for this season to be a good jump off point and to consider it successful:
50 wins. We fell short if that by 1. Because we lost to a raptors team with nothing to play for in game 81 of the season. not a huge deal, but they were clearly gunning for 50 wins, and for a higher seed, and fell short. disappointing.
The atlantic division. We certainly all wanted it. we got close several times. We fell short... we finished in 2nd instead of first. 1 spot shy. again, disappointing.
A first round playoff win. we had HCA. we got it to 7 games. our opponent was decimated with injuries. and we lost, without putting up much of a fight. we fell 1 game short of getting to round 2. disappointment.
The first big game in brooklyn/barclays history, and it ends in giant disappointment. just a bad way to kick off the franchise in brooklyn. hard to call a 49 win season where you make the playoffs upsetting after recently losing 70 games, but i certainly am more upset now then i was at the end of that season.
this team might have been a winning team, but it still has that disappointing loser stench all over them.
Short sighted because the disappointment is always the end result, but this had nothing to do with being 1 shy of anything...you need to examine the big picture and dig a little deeper than the surface.
Throw at numbers and look at the structure of this team, then we can talk about the story of the 2013 Nets.
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jerseyjac wrote:PetroNet wrote:We fell 1 short of all our realistic goals this season, and of everything we fans wanted for this season to be a good jump off point and to consider it successful:
50 wins. We fell short if that by 1. Because we lost to a raptors team with nothing to play for in game 81 of the season. not a huge deal, but they were clearly gunning for 50 wins, and for a higher seed, and fell short. disappointing.
The atlantic division. We certainly all wanted it. we got close several times. We fell short... we finished in 2nd instead of first. 1 spot shy. again, disappointing.
A first round playoff win. we had HCA. we got it to 7 games. our opponent was decimated with injuries. and we lost, without putting up much of a fight. we fell 1 game short of getting to round 2. disappointment.
The first big game in brooklyn/barclays history, and it ends in giant disappointment. just a bad way to kick off the franchise in brooklyn. hard to call a 49 win season where you make the playoffs upsetting after recently losing 70 games, but i certainly am more upset now then i was at the end of that season.
this team might have been a winning team, but it still has that disappointing loser stench all over them.
Short sighted because the disappointment is always the end result, but this had nothing to do with being 1 shy of anything...you need to examine the big picture and dig a little deeper than the surface.
Throw at numbers and look at the structure of this team, then we can talk about the story of the 2013 Nets.
You want the story about the 2013 Brooklyn Nets?
No heart from the players. No leadership from the coach, the franchise player, the front office, and ownership.
Add that together, and you get what we received: a 1st rd knock out.
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jerseyjac wrote:PetroNet wrote:We fell 1 short of all our realistic goals this season, and of everything we fans wanted for this season to be a good jump off point and to consider it successful:
50 wins. We fell short if that by 1. Because we lost to a raptors team with nothing to play for in game 81 of the season. not a huge deal, but they were clearly gunning for 50 wins, and for a higher seed, and fell short. disappointing.
The atlantic division. We certainly all wanted it. we got close several times. We fell short... we finished in 2nd instead of first. 1 spot shy. again, disappointing.
A first round playoff win. we had HCA. we got it to 7 games. our opponent was decimated with injuries. and we lost, without putting up much of a fight. we fell 1 game short of getting to round 2. disappointment.
The first big game in brooklyn/barclays history, and it ends in giant disappointment. just a bad way to kick off the franchise in brooklyn. hard to call a 49 win season where you make the playoffs upsetting after recently losing 70 games, but i certainly am more upset now then i was at the end of that season.
this team might have been a winning team, but it still has that disappointing loser stench all over them.
Short sighted because the disappointment is always the end result, but this had nothing to do with being 1 shy of anything...you need to examine the big picture and dig a little deeper than the surface.
Throw at numbers and look at the structure of this team, then we can talk about the story of the 2013 Nets.
look at what structure? we underachieved in every way imaginable.
-Our coach of the month got fired the next month... an embarassment in itself.
-not 1 of our young guys showed much promise. brooks was awful, mirza was a letdown, toko and taylor never saw the floor. nto saying none of those guys can improve but for THIS season it was an enormous disappointment
-all of our fringe guys outside of Bogans and blatche were outright terrible. Stackhouse was a mess outside of 1 knicks game, CJ was up and down and mostly inconsistent. Evans was good early but then thrust into a role he could only fail at with high minutes vs opposing starters. gerald wallace had his worse season as a pro.
- our stars where a giant pile of injury and suck outside of a great second half from dwill and good first half from lopez. JJ was basically what we expected. a non-star who gives you 18 ppg solid defense and not much else. dwill had a terrible first half, sulked, showed 0 leadership even when he did get back to form, and lopez, while become an amazingly efficient scorer pretty much confirmed the "soft" label he has been given around the league and played an embrassing brand of basketball the second half.
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I think this series was very important to the incline of the Nets growth. I really like the improvement of Lopez and looking more of a attacking aggressive player. This lost hopefully put fire behind Lopez and pushes him to continue to improve and not be complacent. Wallace and Johnson are on their downside of their career and so growth will not depend on them or come from them.
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twix2500 wrote:I think this series was very important to the incline of the Nets growth. I really like the improvement of Lopez and looking more of a attacking aggressive player. This lost hopefully put fire behind Lopez and pushes him to continue to improve and not be complacent. Wallace and Johnson are on their downside of their career and so growth will not depend on them or come from them.
at what point did lopez look like an attacking aggresive player? he fade away and strayed from the paint all night.
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MrDollarBills wrote:jerseyjac wrote:PetroNet wrote:We fell 1 short of all our realistic goals this season, and of everything we fans wanted for this season to be a good jump off point and to consider it successful:
50 wins. We fell short if that by 1. Because we lost to a raptors team with nothing to play for in game 81 of the season. not a huge deal, but they were clearly gunning for 50 wins, and for a higher seed, and fell short. disappointing.
The atlantic division. We certainly all wanted it. we got close several times. We fell short... we finished in 2nd instead of first. 1 spot shy. again, disappointing.
A first round playoff win. we had HCA. we got it to 7 games. our opponent was decimated with injuries. and we lost, without putting up much of a fight. we fell 1 game short of getting to round 2. disappointment.
The first big game in brooklyn/barclays history, and it ends in giant disappointment. just a bad way to kick off the franchise in brooklyn. hard to call a 49 win season where you make the playoffs upsetting after recently losing 70 games, but i certainly am more upset now then i was at the end of that season.
this team might have been a winning team, but it still has that disappointing loser stench all over them.
Short sighted because the disappointment is always the end result, but this had nothing to do with being 1 shy of anything...you need to examine the big picture and dig a little deeper than the surface.
Throw at numbers and look at the structure of this team, then we can talk about the story of the 2013 Nets.
You want the story about the 2013 Brooklyn Nets?
No heart from the players. No leadership from the coach, the franchise player, the front office, and ownership.
Add that together, and you get what we received: a 1st rd knock out.
MrDollarBills wrote:I'm not sure why anyone expected anything above what we saw from this fraudulent team this year.
They beat up on garbage teams, and got their asses handed to them by teams worth a damn night after night.
Won't be any different next year either with garbage like Johnson, Wallace, and Lopez on the roster.
I like your first post better, as far as expectations...JJ is only getting older and Wallace the same with his type of mileage...however, I think Lopez rec. valuable playoff experience although we all wish he finished the series like he started it...
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PetroNet wrote:jerseyjac wrote:PetroNet wrote:We fell 1 short of all our realistic goals this season, and of everything we fans wanted for this season to be a good jump off point and to consider it successful:
50 wins. We fell short if that by 1. Because we lost to a raptors team with nothing to play for in game 81 of the season. not a huge deal, but they were clearly gunning for 50 wins, and for a higher seed, and fell short. disappointing.
The atlantic division. We certainly all wanted it. we got close several times. We fell short... we finished in 2nd instead of first. 1 spot shy. again, disappointing.
A first round playoff win. we had HCA. we got it to 7 games. our opponent was decimated with injuries. and we lost, without putting up much of a fight. we fell 1 game short of getting to round 2. disappointment.
The first big game in brooklyn/barclays history, and it ends in giant disappointment. just a bad way to kick off the franchise in brooklyn. hard to call a 49 win season where you make the playoffs upsetting after recently losing 70 games, but i certainly am more upset now then i was at the end of that season.
this team might have been a winning team, but it still has that disappointing loser stench all over them.
Short sighted because the disappointment is always the end result, but this had nothing to do with being 1 shy of anything...you need to examine the big picture and dig a little deeper than the surface.
Throw at numbers and look at the structure of this team, then we can talk about the story of the 2013 Nets.
look at what structure? we underachieved in every way imaginable.
-Our coach of the month got fired the next month... an embarassment in itself.
-not 1 of our young guys showed much promise. brooks was awful, mirza was a letdown, toko and taylor never saw the floor. nto saying none of those guys can improve but for THIS season it was an enormous disappointment
-all of our fringe guys outside of Bogans and blatche were outright terrible. Stackhouse was a mess outside of 1 knicks game, CJ was up and down and mostly inconsistent. Evans was good early but then thrust into a role he could only fail at with high minutes vs opposing starters. gerald wallace had his worse season as a pro.
- our stars where a giant pile of injury and suck outside of a great second half from dwill and good first half from lopez. JJ was basically what we expected. a non-star who gives you 18 ppg solid defense and not much else. dwill had a terrible first half, sulked, showed 0 leadership even when he did get back to form, and lopez, while become an amazingly efficient scorer pretty much confirmed the "soft" label he has been given around the league and played an embrassing brand of basketball the second half.
That this team was built for not much more than maybe semi final appearance...The question is what did you feel this team could do back in the preseason...Regardless, I felt the let down as you did, not questioning that...I am more talking to the fans than anything else...I think Mr. DollarBills touched on it...this key to how you feel about the Nets now as a fan...
Some significant changes need to be made (personnel changes which our I don't believe our front office can make) along with personal improvements and growth of players in the offseason...still even with that, unless Lopez takes over games which I do not foresee or DWill plays more like what we saw in Utah, we are only looking at duplicating this year all over again, maybe a step deeper in the playoffs...
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I think the Nets learned A LOT tonight as did the fans...If you didn't understand before how this team was built more to put fans in the seats than wins in the postseason, you should comprehend that now...
All the talent in the world cannot make up for the relentless energy and passion the Bulls played with, the intelligence on defense which they were coached with and the fortitude as a group, no matter who was injured/sick, they stepped up collectively...
You take a step back and really only see Wallace and Deron last night with that energy or hop in their step that a game 7 should bring out of you...Evans had some energy in spurts w/ some Off reb., but he is just not the defender needed when starting and playing starter minutes...
Finally, the Nets can look in the mirror and say, we're a mediocre team, that sometimes play hesitant uninspired ball...at times our defense looks gutless and no matter how much direction we have (or could have with a different coaching staff); this team seems lost on both sides of the floor, failing to execute or understand how to get an easy basket. Throw in the opposition usually makes more big baskets than we do and your left with a very bad taste in your mouth...
While I still throw in the fact how this is just the Nets first year together as a group, I honestly have seen enough to say, there is not much left to see...yeh they could of won a couple more games, maybe pulled out a game 7 vs a depleted Bulls team, but I still feel if Joe isn't shooting the ball well, if Brook isn't playing assertive basketball and if Deron doesn't enforce his will on the game, we end up behind the 8 ball...
Maybe guys should of stepped up a little more, but I didn't see us playing much better in this grind out type series...When you see the reality of it all, we're a middle of the road team that needs to improve in a lot of areas, and when everything is said and done, I still think we come up short because of our makeup...I truly think people misuse a team playing with heart vs. the mentality necessary to play consistent basketball in grind out type of series...I truly believe this team cares and plays with heart, but they can become passive in the process, lose focus and intensity and we end up watching a struggling team on both ends of floor...(chalk it up as semantics between fans)
We've seen games like game 1 which truly fool you into thinking how capable this Nets team is..A team's character is always shown in the biggest pressure situations...Overall, game 7 was a sub par performance lacking in so many areas, starting and ending with consistency...that is probably the most frustrating part, no matter who you choose to blame, the next night it would of been someone else...Collectively as a group, we're not cohesive enough of a team to be able to overcome the fight the Bulls showed...Every player on the Nets at some point during that series looked to be overwhelmed, over-matched or failed to step up and do their part...
Nets fans know we should of closed out that series, but I'm not sure we could of (or were capable of)...Despite the disappointment as a fan today, mostly because we missed out on a opportunity to challenge the defending champions (a potential significant experience as a team), I'm really not surprised we lost, you are?...The bottom fell out like so many times before, we attempted to recover (give credit that we did show some resilience) but ultimately came up short.
Were you not waiting to see where this team was going to screw up? I think despite winning 49 games this year and the #4 for seed, I've have never had less confidence in a Nets playoff team...Go back to around 97, where the Nets lost to the Bulls w/ Jordan, if you can remember that series, the passion and intensity we played with, I found myself thinking how much that team made me believe despite losing to the last of Jordan's championship teams..If you don't remember that team go back to the 2006 first round playoff vs the Pacesr or the 2007 first round win vs the Raptors...You want to know what Rich Rane wanted from DWill and company, playoff basketball where you see us take it to another level and maintain it.
When you dissect this team's character you wonder how many players are fine with the result chalking it up to their first year together...There was more than enough positives this year, but if you really take long look at this team, you wonder do they have the ability to take it to another level? Or, will we continue to point out the same things year in and year out while watching a middle of road team that could of done more and how we wanted more from them.
Right now you as fans are left with fools gold. Quite honestly, that is exactly what you had at the beginning of the season. Andf that's coming from a fan that wanted to believe.
All the talent in the world cannot make up for the relentless energy and passion the Bulls played with, the intelligence on defense which they were coached with and the fortitude as a group, no matter who was injured/sick, they stepped up collectively...
You take a step back and really only see Wallace and Deron last night with that energy or hop in their step that a game 7 should bring out of you...Evans had some energy in spurts w/ some Off reb., but he is just not the defender needed when starting and playing starter minutes...
Finally, the Nets can look in the mirror and say, we're a mediocre team, that sometimes play hesitant uninspired ball...at times our defense looks gutless and no matter how much direction we have (or could have with a different coaching staff); this team seems lost on both sides of the floor, failing to execute or understand how to get an easy basket. Throw in the opposition usually makes more big baskets than we do and your left with a very bad taste in your mouth...
While I still throw in the fact how this is just the Nets first year together as a group, I honestly have seen enough to say, there is not much left to see...yeh they could of won a couple more games, maybe pulled out a game 7 vs a depleted Bulls team, but I still feel if Joe isn't shooting the ball well, if Brook isn't playing assertive basketball and if Deron doesn't enforce his will on the game, we end up behind the 8 ball...
Maybe guys should of stepped up a little more, but I didn't see us playing much better in this grind out type series...When you see the reality of it all, we're a middle of the road team that needs to improve in a lot of areas, and when everything is said and done, I still think we come up short because of our makeup...I truly think people misuse a team playing with heart vs. the mentality necessary to play consistent basketball in grind out type of series...I truly believe this team cares and plays with heart, but they can become passive in the process, lose focus and intensity and we end up watching a struggling team on both ends of floor...(chalk it up as semantics between fans)
We've seen games like game 1 which truly fool you into thinking how capable this Nets team is..A team's character is always shown in the biggest pressure situations...Overall, game 7 was a sub par performance lacking in so many areas, starting and ending with consistency...that is probably the most frustrating part, no matter who you choose to blame, the next night it would of been someone else...Collectively as a group, we're not cohesive enough of a team to be able to overcome the fight the Bulls showed...Every player on the Nets at some point during that series looked to be overwhelmed, over-matched or failed to step up and do their part...
Nets fans know we should of closed out that series, but I'm not sure we could of (or were capable of)...Despite the disappointment as a fan today, mostly because we missed out on a opportunity to challenge the defending champions (a potential significant experience as a team), I'm really not surprised we lost, you are?...The bottom fell out like so many times before, we attempted to recover (give credit that we did show some resilience) but ultimately came up short.
Were you not waiting to see where this team was going to screw up? I think despite winning 49 games this year and the #4 for seed, I've have never had less confidence in a Nets playoff team...Go back to around 97, where the Nets lost to the Bulls w/ Jordan, if you can remember that series, the passion and intensity we played with, I found myself thinking how much that team made me believe despite losing to the last of Jordan's championship teams..If you don't remember that team go back to the 2006 first round playoff vs the Pacesr or the 2007 first round win vs the Raptors...You want to know what Rich Rane wanted from DWill and company, playoff basketball where you see us take it to another level and maintain it.
When you dissect this team's character you wonder how many players are fine with the result chalking it up to their first year together...There was more than enough positives this year, but if you really take long look at this team, you wonder do they have the ability to take it to another level? Or, will we continue to point out the same things year in and year out while watching a middle of road team that could of done more and how we wanted more from them.
Right now you as fans are left with fools gold. Quite honestly, that is exactly what you had at the beginning of the season. Andf that's coming from a fan that wanted to believe.
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I really don't get the anger........What did you guys really expect from the 2013 Nets?
Before the season started and we were predicting how this season turned out didn't most of us say we were going to be a little above average?......I did not think we were better than the Bulls then and now we know were not.
Would beating the bulls and then losing to the heat in the second round made this season a "Success"? Would that one extra win to make 50 make it a success?......
Before the season started and we were predicting how this season turned out didn't most of us say we were going to be a little above average?......I did not think we were better than the Bulls then and now we know were not.
Would beating the bulls and then losing to the heat in the second round made this season a "Success"? Would that one extra win to make 50 make it a success?......
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Stone wrote:I really don't get the anger........What did you guys really expect from the 2013 Nets?
Before the season started and we were predicting how this season turned out didn't most of us say we were going to be a little above average?......I did not think we were better than the Bulls then and now we know were not.
Would beating the bulls and then losing to the heat in the second round made this season a "Success"? Would that one extra win to make 50 make it a success?......
I saw us losing a close series like we did and would of been surprised if we pulled it out...
You know what bothers me the most despite my low expectations... I truly did not feel a sense of urgency by the Nets (minus a couple of players) that a game 7 should spill out of the home team bringing the passion and energy that wins playoff series...It just was not significant enough to make a difference vs the Bulls.
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Re: "1 Shy of Success" : The story of the 2013 Nets
^^they dodged a bullet in game six and the chickens came home to roost last night. That same uninspired garbage that happened in Chicago happened in Brooklyn.
PetroNet: I'm not sure how Mirza disappointed, he wasn't even developed by the coaching staff or given a chance to properly get into the flow of the NBA game.
Look at what the Knicks did with their Euro import, and look what we did with ours.
PetroNet: I'm not sure how Mirza disappointed, he wasn't even developed by the coaching staff or given a chance to properly get into the flow of the NBA game.
Look at what the Knicks did with their Euro import, and look what we did with ours.
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Re: "1 Shy of Success" : The story of the 2013 Nets
jerseyjac wrote:
That this team was built for not much more than maybe semi final appearance...The question is what did you feel this team could do back in the preseason...Regardless, I felt the let down as you did, not questioning that...I am more talking to the fans than anything else...I think Mr. DollarBills touched on it...this key to how you feel about the Nets now as a fan...
In the preseason i had us a 46-52 win team 55 win ceiling, legit shot to win the atlantic and a lock to win in the first round. we did have 46+ wins, but really fell short of all 3 areas imo. and it isnt so much not reaching those goals. id have been happy winning less games but having a team that played hard. its an embarassment we didint win 50 or get out of round 1, because both of those goals were basically handed to us on a silver platter but we just refused to work to get them
going forward it really depends what we do. i dont see anything changing next year without a motivating coach, oncourt leader, and massive front court defensive upgrade. im fine if lopez stays, but ALOT around him would need SEVERE upgrade. right now he is out clear second best player, and i dont think you can contend or be more then a low level treadmill team with him as your second best player because he doesnt defend and is consinsitent offensively
Some significant changes need to be made (personnel changes which our I don't believe our front office can make) along with personal improvements and growth of players in the offseason...still even with that, unless Lopez takes over games which I do not foresee or DWill plays more like what we saw in Utah, we are only looking at duplicating this year all over again, maybe a step deeper in the playoffs...
yeah, thats basically how i feel. we need to add stephen jackson and maybe nene in a trade. that woudla dd alot of toughness and defense. i dont think we lose to the bulls if we have a stephen jackson type on the floor. we certainly dont blow a 14 point lead
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Stone wrote:I really don't get the anger........What did you guys really expect from the 2013 Nets?
Before the season started and we were predicting how this season turned out didn't most of us say we were going to be a little above average?......I did not think we were better than the Bulls then and now we know were not.
Would beating the bulls and then losing to the heat in the second round made this season a "Success"? Would that one extra win to make 50 make it a success?......
yes. not so much 50 wins but getting a first round win would have made the season a success. losing to miami is nothing to be ashamed of, and we would have to to measure ourselves vs the best and experience going on the road vs them in the playoffs. THAT would have been valuable experience. not blowing a first round series to a team missing 2 or 3 starters and half its bench in 7 games while they did everything they could to hand us the series.
im not really sure how you could have scripted a more disappoint season other then maybe someone having a career ending injury
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MrDollarBills wrote:^^they dodged a bullet in game six and the chickens came home to roost last night. That same uninspired garbage that happened in Chicago happened in Brooklyn.
PetroNet: I'm not sure how Mirza disappointed, he wasn't even developed by the coaching staff or given a chance to properly get into the flow of the NBA game.
Look at what the Knicks did with their Euro import, and look what we did with ours.
1) im not saying mirza disappointing is his fault
2) im not saying mirza cant be good in the future
but, to say he didint disappoint is crazy. he barely played, under either coach, even when we desperatly needed scoring at the 4. blame that on the coaches. he then got that 8 game stretch where he was consitnetly getting rotation minutes, and he played probably his worse bball of the season and certainly did not make the most of that, albeit, small opportunity.
he didint defend, looked lost, didint shoot well during his stretch of playing time, and didnt earn anything in practice with the coaches apperantly.
even with the lowest of expectations, he couldnt have reached them.
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PetroNet wrote:Stone wrote:I really don't get the anger........What did you guys really expect from the 2013 Nets?
Before the season started and we were predicting how this season turned out didn't most of us say we were going to be a little above average?......I did not think we were better than the Bulls then and now we know were not.
Would beating the bulls and then losing to the heat in the second round made this season a "Success"? Would that one extra win to make 50 make it a success?......
yes. not so much 50 wins but getting a first round win would have made the season a success. losing to miami is nothing to be ashamed of, and we would have to to measure ourselves vs the best and experience going on the road vs them in the playoffs. THAT would have been valuable experience. not blowing a first round series to a team missing 2 or 3 starters and half its bench in 7 games while they did everything they could to hand us the series.
im not really sure how you could have scripted a more disappoint season other then maybe someone having a career ending injury
And you forgot to mention that we had HCA too.