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Post#41 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Apr 2, 2013 4:00 pm

Tiago Splitter got 3 years/$11M (total) when he came over.

Scola got 3 years/$10M.

I don't see how Tomic could deserve more than that.
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Post#42 » by pickIBL » Tue Apr 2, 2013 4:38 pm

StocktonShorts wrote:Tiago Splitter got 3 years/$11M (total) when he came over.

Scola got 3 years/$10M.

I don't see how Tomic could deserve more than that.


Well the main difference is I include up to a 1.5 million dollar buyout in my figure. Maybe you get the buyout down to 1 million. The other difference is a 4 year versus a 3 year contract. Mobile 7-2 guys that are polished like this don't fall off trees... if you remember I started out at 3 years 12 million... but as the season has gone along I've had to adjust that figure.
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Post#43 » by erudite23 » Wed Apr 3, 2013 7:12 pm

I had written Tomic off the last couple seasons as it seemed he had flatlined and stopped improving. I don't know that he could ever get a ton of run as a starter, with how weak and almost frail he seems to be. But he could provide a nice dimension off the bench to begin with and then see where it goes from there. I would definitely be in favor of the Jazz bringing him over on a 2 year deal with a team option for a 3rd year as long as it didn't get to be higher than 3m per season. Any more than that and I'm not so sure.
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Post#44 » by pickIBL » Wed Apr 3, 2013 7:28 pm

you might want to rethink that... especially considering how well barcelona is doing... and you talk like Tomic needs to play along with an enforcer or something. He's playing with Lorbek. Tomic has to hold his own in the middle... and he does... rather well... this season. Thus I had to adjust his salary requirements. I'm not sure he doesn't win out next year and start with Favors.

4 years starting @ 4 million. And he does that because he is stuck with 2 more years plus a team option with Barcelona. He signed that right out of an off year... so he wont turn down a good Jazz offer this summer. It's his chance to get paid.
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Post#45 » by Winglish » Wed Apr 3, 2013 9:35 pm

There is good reason why AK-47 went overseas and won MVP of the league. European teams play for passing and ball movement. The players for the most part are not active in the weight room like NBA players. Some guys figure this out when they come over (a la Memo). Others never get it. Tomic would need to get stronger for sure if he wanted a successful career in the NBA. I like his game and think he could help off the bench.
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Post#46 » by pickIBL » Tue May 7, 2013 12:14 am

Tomic 1st team Euroleague. Congrats.
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Post#47 » by StocktonShorts » Tue May 7, 2013 12:19 am

Other members of the first team were Rudy Fernandez and Nenad Krstić, for some context.
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Post#48 » by Matt007b » Tue May 7, 2013 5:13 am

Would rather see Tomic/Kanter/Favors over here than Jefferson/Milsap coming back honestly...I wonder what the buyout is with Barcelona?
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Post#49 » by DelaneyRudd » Tue May 7, 2013 6:46 am

I agree, it's a major achievement to make the NBA. Pablo Prigioni makes this a much more likely event that an older rookie will come over and make a name for himself in the largest economy and third most populated country in the world.
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Post#50 » by pickIBL » Tue May 7, 2013 4:21 pm

pretty high company I'd say. Denver sure could have used Rudy's shooting & OKC sure could have used Krstic in the finals last year.
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Post#51 » by The59Sound » Tue May 7, 2013 4:49 pm

pickIBL wrote:pretty high company I'd say. Denver sure could have used Rudy's shooting & OKC sure could have used Krstic in the finals last year.


I don't think "his company was two other guys capable of being on an NBA roster" is all that impressive. I'm not necessarily opposed to having Tomic; I just don't think our expectations should be that high, or that we should commit any significant dollars to him.
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Post#52 » by pickIBL » Tue May 7, 2013 5:03 pm

what type of contract would Krstic get in the NBA?
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Post#53 » by StocktonShorts » Tue May 7, 2013 6:11 pm

pickIBL wrote:what type of contract would Krstic get in the NBA?


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Post#54 » by pickIBL » Tue May 7, 2013 6:42 pm

I had a general idea... I was just making the point... that 3 or 4 million is reasonable for a 1st team EuroLeague Center. Krstic's last year in the league you note was around 5.5 million.
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Post#55 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue May 7, 2013 6:42 pm

don't know where to post it:

Kevin Arnovitz listing David Blatt as one of 7 coaches ready to coach in the NBA in his column:

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David Blatt, Maccabi Tel Aviv head coach


If basketball is an American game gone global, then Blatt is its quintessential ambassador. Raised near Boston, he has spent the last two decades establishing himself as one of Europe’s premier coaches, currently with Maccabi and during the 2012 Olympics with the Russian national team.

It’s been a few years since the persistent chatter about an NBA team -- Toronto the most popular hypothetical -- hiring a head coach out of Europe. Whenever that line of inquiry is resuscitated, Blatt is the most oft-mentioned name, along with Ettore Messina (formerly of Mike Brown’s staff in Los Angeles) and Sergio Scariolo (head coach at Milano, and the Spanish national team that’s won gold at the last two FIBA EuroBasket championships).

Blatt’s American upbringing and playing career at Princeton under Pete Carril make him a logical trailblazer should an NBA team want to take a plunge. Blatt wouldn’t likely be lured by an assistant’s spot on the bench nor by a consultant’s title similar to Messina’s with the Lakers.

“[Blatt] would want some authorship of the roster and a seat at the table,” says a member of an NBA front office who keeps a close watch on Europe. “Mike D’Antoni is the analog.”

D’Antoni was the last real import, and no NBA team has expressed public interest in a coaching candidate from Europe recently. Still, the prospect of a mind like Blatt’s taking the reins of an NBA team is a fascinating thought exercise. Given Blatt's body of work, characterizing such a hire a risk would be silly.
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Post#56 » by pickIBL » Tue May 7, 2013 8:28 pm

Blatt is a no brainer in my book. Hopefully he will be available next summer. I suspect he might turn down a bobcats offer. The one sticking point is that as noted Blatt might want to meddle in the FO. This is not Europe and we don't have the one year/roster turnover situations... so I can understand giving Blatt a voice... but he should have nothing more than that when it comes to the FO.
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Post#57 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue May 7, 2013 8:56 pm

i agree. but i think quite a few coaches have a voice when it comes to the roster, since they are the ones who need to coach those players and establish a system around them. but like you said - a voice, not more than that.

as for the bobcats - i wouldn't go near it, since no coach manages to hang in there for long. and since their FO is clueless, he's probably not even on their radar anyway. i wonder what he can accomplish with the nets' roster.
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Post#58 » by BringtheD » Fri May 10, 2013 12:54 am

This is the best tomic news that I've heard since forever. better news would be him in a jazz uniform.
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Post#59 » by erudite23 » Fri May 10, 2013 3:41 pm

You never know how the transition will go. I think he could be a Luis Scola type player if he reaches his ceiling in the NBA. He's obviously skilled enough to do damage. If he can hold up against other bigs--in an increasingly smaller league--then we could have something. But no one knew that Manu would be Manu when he came over. No one thought Memo would become an All Star. Its hard to project. I'm at least optimistic that he can contribute now. I had basically written him off before.
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Re: Ante Tomic 

Post#60 » by maccca3232 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:10 am

Pretty quiet offseason so far.

Anyone have anything new on Tomic?

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