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Happy Birthday Kemba Hudley Walker!
To celebrate Kemba's birthday I want to flip flop this as soon as this season and right now. Kemba finished this season with a 18.86 PER, 335.5 VA, and a 11.2 EWA to Jrue's 16.74 PER, 250.5 VA, and 8.4 EWA despite his team losing 13 more games.
Liver_Pooty wrote:Holiday is better than Walker, but it could be flip flop as soon as next season.
To celebrate Kemba's birthday I want to flip flop this as soon as this season and right now. Kemba finished this season with a 18.86 PER, 335.5 VA, and a 11.2 EWA to Jrue's 16.74 PER, 250.5 VA, and 8.4 EWA despite his team losing 13 more games.
They will wage war against the Lamb but the Lamb will triumph them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings - and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." Revelation 17:14 (NIV)
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catch20two wrote:Happy Birthday Kemba Hudley Walker!Liver_Pooty wrote:Holiday is better than Walker, but it could be flip flop as soon as next season.
To celebrate Kemba's birthday I want to flip flop this as soon as this season and right now. Kemba finished this season with a 18.86 PER, 335.5 VA, and a 11.2 EWA to Jrue's 16.74 PER, 250.5 VA, and 8.4 EWA despite his team losing 13 more games.
Kemba is better than Holiday. No question about that.
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I disagree right now. You're forgetting that Holiday managed 18/8 on slightly better shooting numbers, playing with a lot of garbage players as well. Also better defensively. I'll take Holiday right now, but I think Kemba's got the brighter future, particularly if we can get a decent big man around here sometime soon.
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Biz Gilwalker wrote:I disagree right now. You're forgetting that Holiday managed 18/8 on slightly better shooting numbers, playing with a lot of garbage players as well. Also better defensively. I'll take Holiday right now, but I think Kemba's got the brighter future, particularly if we can get a decent big man around here sometime soon.
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Holiday is definitely an above average defender but so is Kemba. Neither are defensive first or second team material right now but the differences in their defense aren't really anything to write home about other than that Holiday can guard some SF's that Kemba can't due to size difference.
However, the size difference IS worth noting. Holiday is way tall for his point guard abilities! It makes a difference. On the other hand, Kemba's handle out classes Holiday's.
However, the size difference IS worth noting. Holiday is way tall for his point guard abilities! It makes a difference. On the other hand, Kemba's handle out classes Holiday's.
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Personally I think the 3 more assist that Jrue averages over Kemba is almost negated by the 2 more turnovers per game he averages as well.
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catch20two wrote:Personally I think the 3 more assist that Jrue averages over Kemba is almost negated by the 2 more turnovers per game he averages as well.
Holiday also put up a robust .496 TS% for a second straight season.
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thruthefire wrote:catch20two wrote:Personally I think the 3 more assist that Jrue averages over Kemba is almost negated by the 2 more turnovers per game he averages as well.
Holiday also put up a robust .496 TS% for a second straight season.
Thanks for the additional info. I forgot to mention earlier that Kemba had a better TS% at .517 this year as well.
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catch20two wrote:thruthefire wrote:catch20two wrote:Personally I think the 3 more assist that Jrue averages over Kemba is almost negated by the 2 more turnovers per game he averages as well.
Holiday also put up a robust .496 TS% for a second straight season.
Thanks for the additional info. I forgot to mention earlier that Kemba had a better TS% at .517 this year as well.
Numbers aside, just watch them play and their skill set. Kemba is superior imo
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Season Report Card: Kemba Walker
Grade: B+
18.9 PER vs 16.3 PER Against; Net +2.6
Strengths: Kemba’s season was one long sigh of relief. Drafted in 2011 as one of the bedrocks of Charlotte’s rebuilding effort, his rookie year was a disappointment (in part for reasons beyond his control). The second year was much better.
A lot of that had to do with Walker’s improving efficiency (see Reasons for Optimism), but he also built on his strengths while taking on an expanded role:
— One of Kemba’s best attributes is his ballhandling, and that paid off in multiple ways. For one, he managed to keep his turnovers relatively low, especially given his role on the team, heavy minutes and a high usage rate. It also helped him put up points: According to MySynergySports.com, the pick-and-roll made up the largest percentage of his scoring plays, and his .87 points per possession was good for 32nd in the league. He also showed improvement in isolation, where Synergy rated him 85th among qualifying players. That gave the Bobcats a decently reliable one-on-one creator that it’s lacked in the past. It also led to some memorable moments.
— Walker still has a ways to go as a defender, but he has active hands and a good sense of timing. He was top-five in total steals, and top-10 in steal percentage among qualifying players. For a team that relied heavily on the fast break, Kemba’s ability to force turnovers came in handy.
— This is an underrated strength: Walker has proven to be very durable, and hasn’t missed a game in his two-year career. The streak continued this season despite a significant increase in playing time. Kemba saw 673 more minutes than his next-closest teammate, the equivalent of 14 48-minute games.
Kemba’s raw totals show off the impact increased playing time and consistent health can have. Walker played the 18th-most minutes in the league, which translated to the 15th-most points, 4th-most steals, 14th-most free throws made, and 19th-most assists. Looking at totals like that isn’t an especially accurate way of measuring a player’s impact on a game-by-game basis, but staying on the floor is its own talent. It also reflects just how heavy of a load Walker was carrying this year.
Weaknesses: Defense is Walker’s most glaring flaw; he’s always going to be undersized for the position, and he doesn’t have the strength to consistently fight through screens. As the team builds an identity on that end and improves their post defense, this will hopefully become less of an problem. A well-coached team can get by with subpar one-on-one defense from their point guard.
— This isn’t necessarily a “weakness,” but Walker has been an average passer so far. His assist percentage was 19th-best among qualifying players, comparable to point guards like Kyrie Irving, Stephen Curry and Ty Lawson. He’s decent enough that his passing isn’t a liability, but he didn’t show much growth this year, either. One thing that could help is acquiring a few more spot-up shooters; it’s hard to drive and kick when there’s no one to kick to. Similarly, Kemba didn’t have a good player to run the pick-and-roll with until Josh McRoberts showed up. As the team improves, it’ll be interesting to see how Walker’s passing game evolves.
Reasons For Optimism: Here’s the big one: Kemba’s field-goal percentage rose from a depressing 36.6 percent to a solid 42.3 percent. That’s about league-average for point guards (43 percent, according to Hoopdata.com). He accomplished it in two ways:
First, Walker improved his FG% on mid-range attempts from 35.0 to 43.4 percent. Kemba relied heavily on that shot, so it was an important development if he’s going to become half-way efficient.
Second, Walker did a better job at getting to the rim. Everyone loves charts, right? Here’s Kemba’s shot distribution in 2011-12:

And here’s 2012-13:

Kemba shifted nearly 10 percent of his shots to within eight feet of the basket. In short, this year Walker took better attempts and improved at the ones he already relied on. That’s a formula for solid (and hopefully sustainable) growth.
— This could be less of a reason for optimism and more of a statistical quirk, but Kemba was much, much better at home than on the road. More charts:

This gist is that Kemba scored more, and much more efficiently, when he was in Charlotte.
For reference, the league averages 45.95 percent from the field at home and 44.60 percent away. That’s a difference of 1.35 percent; Walker shot 6.6 percent better at home. The biggest shift was his three-point shooting, where he went from terrible on the road (26.8 percent) to very good at home (37.8 percent).
Like I said, this could just be randomness in the numbers. But if Kemba can get over his road jitters and find a consistent, high-percentage three-point stroke, it’d go a long way towards making him a complete offensive player.
Reasons For Pessimism: Kemba’s biggest strength is his mid-range game, and he didn’t develop much as a long-range shooter. That ultimately limits his efficiency, and in the short term created some major spacing issues while playing next to Ramon Sessions, Gerald Henderson and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. If he can’t improve on his three-pointers, he’ll top out as a relatively inefficient volume scorer.
It’s also unclear how Walker will play in a more structured offense. Dunlap’s system allowed him to dominate the ball for long stretches, and didn’t feature much ball movement. Last year was similarly chaotic. If the incoming coach installs an offense that requires Walker to be more of a spot-up shooter, he could see his production deflate.
I’m trying to end these recaps on a positive note, so here you go: even if Kemba doesn’t pan out to be a long-term starter, he seems like a legitimate NBA player. You can’t complain too much about a solid contributor with a few elite skills, good potential and a strong work ethic (though I’m sure some will try).
http://queencityhoops.com/blog/2013/05/ ... -walker-2/
Grade: B+
18.9 PER vs 16.3 PER Against; Net +2.6
Strengths: Kemba’s season was one long sigh of relief. Drafted in 2011 as one of the bedrocks of Charlotte’s rebuilding effort, his rookie year was a disappointment (in part for reasons beyond his control). The second year was much better.
A lot of that had to do with Walker’s improving efficiency (see Reasons for Optimism), but he also built on his strengths while taking on an expanded role:
— One of Kemba’s best attributes is his ballhandling, and that paid off in multiple ways. For one, he managed to keep his turnovers relatively low, especially given his role on the team, heavy minutes and a high usage rate. It also helped him put up points: According to MySynergySports.com, the pick-and-roll made up the largest percentage of his scoring plays, and his .87 points per possession was good for 32nd in the league. He also showed improvement in isolation, where Synergy rated him 85th among qualifying players. That gave the Bobcats a decently reliable one-on-one creator that it’s lacked in the past. It also led to some memorable moments.
— Walker still has a ways to go as a defender, but he has active hands and a good sense of timing. He was top-five in total steals, and top-10 in steal percentage among qualifying players. For a team that relied heavily on the fast break, Kemba’s ability to force turnovers came in handy.
— This is an underrated strength: Walker has proven to be very durable, and hasn’t missed a game in his two-year career. The streak continued this season despite a significant increase in playing time. Kemba saw 673 more minutes than his next-closest teammate, the equivalent of 14 48-minute games.
Kemba’s raw totals show off the impact increased playing time and consistent health can have. Walker played the 18th-most minutes in the league, which translated to the 15th-most points, 4th-most steals, 14th-most free throws made, and 19th-most assists. Looking at totals like that isn’t an especially accurate way of measuring a player’s impact on a game-by-game basis, but staying on the floor is its own talent. It also reflects just how heavy of a load Walker was carrying this year.
Weaknesses: Defense is Walker’s most glaring flaw; he’s always going to be undersized for the position, and he doesn’t have the strength to consistently fight through screens. As the team builds an identity on that end and improves their post defense, this will hopefully become less of an problem. A well-coached team can get by with subpar one-on-one defense from their point guard.
— This isn’t necessarily a “weakness,” but Walker has been an average passer so far. His assist percentage was 19th-best among qualifying players, comparable to point guards like Kyrie Irving, Stephen Curry and Ty Lawson. He’s decent enough that his passing isn’t a liability, but he didn’t show much growth this year, either. One thing that could help is acquiring a few more spot-up shooters; it’s hard to drive and kick when there’s no one to kick to. Similarly, Kemba didn’t have a good player to run the pick-and-roll with until Josh McRoberts showed up. As the team improves, it’ll be interesting to see how Walker’s passing game evolves.
Reasons For Optimism: Here’s the big one: Kemba’s field-goal percentage rose from a depressing 36.6 percent to a solid 42.3 percent. That’s about league-average for point guards (43 percent, according to Hoopdata.com). He accomplished it in two ways:
First, Walker improved his FG% on mid-range attempts from 35.0 to 43.4 percent. Kemba relied heavily on that shot, so it was an important development if he’s going to become half-way efficient.
Second, Walker did a better job at getting to the rim. Everyone loves charts, right? Here’s Kemba’s shot distribution in 2011-12:

And here’s 2012-13:

Kemba shifted nearly 10 percent of his shots to within eight feet of the basket. In short, this year Walker took better attempts and improved at the ones he already relied on. That’s a formula for solid (and hopefully sustainable) growth.
— This could be less of a reason for optimism and more of a statistical quirk, but Kemba was much, much better at home than on the road. More charts:

This gist is that Kemba scored more, and much more efficiently, when he was in Charlotte.
For reference, the league averages 45.95 percent from the field at home and 44.60 percent away. That’s a difference of 1.35 percent; Walker shot 6.6 percent better at home. The biggest shift was his three-point shooting, where he went from terrible on the road (26.8 percent) to very good at home (37.8 percent).
Like I said, this could just be randomness in the numbers. But if Kemba can get over his road jitters and find a consistent, high-percentage three-point stroke, it’d go a long way towards making him a complete offensive player.
Reasons For Pessimism: Kemba’s biggest strength is his mid-range game, and he didn’t develop much as a long-range shooter. That ultimately limits his efficiency, and in the short term created some major spacing issues while playing next to Ramon Sessions, Gerald Henderson and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. If he can’t improve on his three-pointers, he’ll top out as a relatively inefficient volume scorer.
It’s also unclear how Walker will play in a more structured offense. Dunlap’s system allowed him to dominate the ball for long stretches, and didn’t feature much ball movement. Last year was similarly chaotic. If the incoming coach installs an offense that requires Walker to be more of a spot-up shooter, he could see his production deflate.
I’m trying to end these recaps on a positive note, so here you go: even if Kemba doesn’t pan out to be a long-term starter, he seems like a legitimate NBA player. You can’t complain too much about a solid contributor with a few elite skills, good potential and a strong work ethic (though I’m sure some will try).
http://queencityhoops.com/blog/2013/05/ ... -walker-2/

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Kemba should've received a better grade than a B+. He deserved at least a A- considering how productive he was on this lackluster team in only his second season in the NBA under his second coach. His +2.6 net PER versus his pairs at a position that doesn't lack of parity in the NBA should indicate that and make it a fairly easy evaluation.

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mrknowitall215 wrote:Kemba should've received a better grade than a B+. He deserved at least a A- considering how productive he was on this lackluster team in only his second season in the NBA under his second coach. His +2.6 net PER versus his pairs at a position that doesn't lack of parity in the NBA should indicate that and make it a fairly easy evaluation.
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mrknowitall215 wrote:Kemba should've received a better grade than a B+. He deserved at least a A- considering how productive he was on this lackluster team in only his second season in the NBA under his second coach. His +2.6 net PER versus his pairs at a position that doesn't lack of parity in the NBA should indicate that and make it a fairly easy evaluation.
We're the Bobcats. We are not getting an A in anything from anyone not already a fan.
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Kemba got invited to Team USA's mini-camp in July...
...so he deserves an applause
Seven point guards are expected to be in the group of 24 players invited to USA Basketball's offseason mini-camp in July, including Portland's Damian Lillard and Cleveland's Kyrie Irving, the NBA's recent Rookie of the Year winners.
Kyrie Irving is expected to compete this summer at a Team USA mini-camp. (USA Today Sports) …
The crop of point guards also includes Ty Lawson, John Wall and Kemba Walker who have already accepted invitations to attend the camp in Las Vegas on July 22-25. The Memphis Grizzlies' Mike Conley and the Indiana Pacers' George Hill, each involved in the NBA playoffs, will likely get invites.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--compe ... 22556.html
...so he deserves an applause

They will wage war against the Lamb but the Lamb will triumph them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings - and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." Revelation 17:14 (NIV)
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catch20two wrote:Kemba got invited to Team USA's mini-camp in July...Seven point guards are expected to be in the group of 24 players invited to USA Basketball's offseason mini-camp in July, including Portland's Damian Lillard and Cleveland's Kyrie Irving, the NBA's recent Rookie of the Year winners.
Kyrie Irving is expected to compete this summer at a Team USA mini-camp. (USA Today Sports) …
The crop of point guards also includes Ty Lawson, John Wall and Kemba Walker who have already accepted invitations to attend the camp in Las Vegas on July 22-25. The Memphis Grizzlies' Mike Conley and the Indiana Pacers' George Hill, each involved in the NBA playoffs, will likely get invites.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--compe ... 22556.html
...so he deserves an applause
Great news!
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he averaged 20 ppg for us next season.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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I wouldn't be surprised neither. Kemba is one of those players that improve from year to year and if his marginal progression follows the same upwards trend that he made from his freshman to junior year at UConn then we're in for a real treat in year 3 from Mr. Walker.
They will wage war against the Lamb but the Lamb will triumph them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings - and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." Revelation 17:14 (NIV)
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Liver_Pooty wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if he averaged 20 ppg for us next season.
If he can start to get some love from the refs on his drives I don't think that 20ppg is out of the question at all.
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would you rather see kemba average 20ppg and 5apg or 16ppg and 8apg?