Community Thread XXXIX In Honor of the 2012-2013 MVP Gek!!

hermes · Post #1381 » by **hermes** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:07 am

well i'll be, happened at least once anyway

[Bane has burned Neo's eyes out]
Neo: I'm all right, Trin... but I think you're gonna have to drive.

EArl · Post #1382 » by **EArl** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:09 am

tugs wrote:
Imadogg wrote:I need a source on that gif

done

http://allball.blogs.nba.com/2013/05/13/posterizing-the-next-big-thing/

ennui · Post #1383 » by **ennui** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:11 am

The escape of the cave is just a plot point. It only serves to illustrate the subjective perception of reality in the difference between what they once knew was real (cave shadows) to what most view as reality (life outside cave)

florencemachine · Post #1384 » by **florencemachine** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:16 am

i hate breaking in new leather shoes

so uncomfortable at first

EArl · Post #1385 » by **EArl** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:18 am

I dont think we were ever arguing about the plot point.
My point was that for certain people being under the influence of drugs is like being in the cave (pseudo reality).
Once they are out of the cave (stop taking drugs), their reality becomes unbearable and some would rather live under false pretenses (drug usage) than to live in real life.

EArl · Post #1386 » by **EArl** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:20 am

florencemachine wrote:i hate breaking in new leather shoes

so uncomfortable at first

Use a hair drier to heat the shoe up to make the material flexible and start walking in them. Works well for leather shoes.

florencemachine · Post #1387 » by **florencemachine** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:21 am

yeah but the reason why your line of thinking isn't applicable to plato's cave is because the cave denizen ONLY knows the cave and the shadows as his reality- whereas in your example, noone is born into a world of drugged up reality- that comes secondary to life without drugs

EArl · Post #1388 » by **EArl** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:24 am

The complete analogy doesn't fit my system well, but it hammers in the point. It is simply an application of the allegory.

hermes · Post #1389 » by **hermes** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:24 am

EArl wrote:I dont think we were ever arguing about the plot point.
My point was that for certain people being under the influence of drugs is like being in the cave (pseudo reality).
Once they are out of the cave (stop taking drugs), their reality becomes unbearable and some would rather live under false pretenses (drug usage) than to live in real life.

for some people it could be the opposite

on drugs - outside the cave
off drugs - inside the cave

Doormatt · Post #1390 » by **Doormatt** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:24 am

this thread is just hella (Please Use More Appropriate Word) now and you guys are **** (Please Use More Appropriate Word) for getting into such a heated debate over something as subjective as the allegory of the cave.

florencemachine · Post #1391 » by **florencemachine** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:26 am

doorfatt did you end up going out on the weekend

EArl · Post #1392 » by **EArl** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:26 am

hermes wrote:
EArl wrote:I dont think we were ever arguing about the plot point.
My point was that for certain people being under the influence of drugs is like being in the cave (pseudo reality).
Once they are out of the cave (stop taking drugs), their reality becomes unbearable and some would rather live under false pretenses (drug usage) than to live in real life.

for some people it could be the opposite

on drugs - outside the cave
off drugs - inside the cave

That could very well be someones perception of it. Hard to argue that.

EArl · Post #1393 » by **EArl** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:27 am

Doormatt wrote:this thread is just hella (Please Use More Appropriate Word) now and you guys are **** (Please Use More Appropriate Word) for getting into such a heated debate over something as subjective as the allegory of the cave.

Doesn't know Philosophy^

hermes · Post #1394 » by **hermes** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:27 am

florencemachine wrote:yeah but the reason why your line of thinking isn't applicable to plato's cave is because the cave denizen ONLY knows the cave and the shadows as his reality- whereas in your example, noone is born into a world of drugged up reality- that comes secondary to life without drugs

who's taking it too literally now

Individual: All of us have an individual 'cave' of our own, where we live a comfortable, happy and familiar life. But in reality, we are 'prisoners" of the truth'. We prefer living a dull, mundane life and blindly follow the set social norms, than question or challenge the authenticity of the 'shadows' that we have been seeing since childhood. The one who does question is often ridiculed and despised. The 'liberated man' here is like the philosophers who think beyond the set norms, question the reality and keeps accumulating new experiences and knowledge. Society often condemns, prosecutes and laughs at them, yet these philosophers are willing to voice their opinions and face the truth.
Read more at Buzzle: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/platos-a ... ation.html

Doormatt · Post #1395 » by **Doormatt** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:27 am

florencemachine wrote:doorfatt did you end up going out on the weekend

i went out on friday, got drunk at home saturday night, and was busy on sunday.

hermes · Post #1396 » by **hermes** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:29 am

oh florence, your article was interesting - some things in there i hadn't really thought about before

EArl · Post #1397 » by **EArl** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:29 am

Doormatt wrote:
florencemachine wrote:doorfatt did you end up going out on the weekend

i went out on friday, got drunk at home saturday night, and was busy on sunday.

#doorgek

hermes · Post #1398 » by **hermes** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:29 am

Doormatt wrote:this thread is just hella (Please Use More Appropriate Word) now and you guys are **** (Please Use More Appropriate Word) for getting into such a heated debate over something as subjective as the allegory of the cave.

^stuck in the cave

EArl · Post #1399 » by **EArl** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:30 am

hermes wrote:oh florence, your article was interesting - some things in there i hadn't really thought about before

Push Hermes!!!

florencemachine · Post #1400 » by **florencemachine** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:31 am

Doormatt wrote:
florencemachine wrote:doorfatt did you end up going out on the weekend

i went out on friday, got drunk at home saturday night, and was busy on sunday.

only alcoholics drink at home by themselves