Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIV "Lottery/Draft"Edition)

[Dunstown magic]

In regards to the draft, If i were Hennigan I would be aiming to pick up either Trey Burke or Ben Mclemore and then trying to acquire another 1st round pick between 15-25 and picking up Steven Adams. Adams is a specimen very very raw offensively, however the man is a beast and a great athlete. In my opinion he was under utilized at pitt. Its on the defensive side that Adams excels hes big, long, athletic and moves well and has fairly good defensive instincts particularly blocking shots. I do think that he is going to rise on draft boards once the combine begins because of this size and athleticism and teams maybe willing to take a risk in a weaker draft. I don't doubt that he'll be a project but one worth taking a risk on in a weak draft.

Orlando could trade with Phoenix for what could be #4 and #30 and that could get Burke and Adams. Additionally, the TPE to the Bulls for Boozer and #20 makes sense (maybe Harrington gets thrown in for Hamilton to balance that out). In that scenario, Orlando would have three rookies: lets call them Burke, Adetokoubo, and Adams.

The roster becomes:
Nelson/Burke/Adetokoubo
Afflalo/Moore/Lamb?
Harkless/Hamilton/Jones
Davis/Harris/Nicholson
Vučević/O'Quinn/Adams

That's quite an interesting roster. Depth and balance are the strengths. I can see 30+ wins there, if Nelson, Afflalo, and Davis can all log 70 games a piece.


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I like the idea of getting Boozer and Hamilton from the Bulls. Boozer could work with Vucevic and Nicholson on their toughness. Hamilton would be a good teacher to work with Harkless.

The Suns trade I do not like. I personally would offer the #1-4 pick to the Wolves for Shved and the #9 if you can. Maybe throw something else in there with it.

Glennathan are you really that high on Shved? I personally am not. What in your mind makes him essentially the difference between 1-4 and 9?

[glennathan]

Orlando could trade with Phoenix for what could be #4 and #30 and that could get Burke and Adams. Additionally, the TPE to the Bulls for Boozer and #20 makes sense (maybe Harrington gets thrown in for Hamilton to balance that out). In that scenario, Orlando would have three rookies: lets call them Burke, Adetokoubo, and Adams.

The roster becomes:
Nelson/Burke/Adetokoubo
Afflalo/Moore/Lamb?
Harkless/Hamilton/Jones
Davis/Harris/Nicholson
Vučević/O'Quinn/Adams

That's quite an interesting roster. Depth and balance are the strengths. I can see 30+ wins there, if Nelson, Afflalo, and Davis can all log 70 games a piece.


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I like the idea of getting Boozer and Hamilton from the Bulls. Boozer could work with Vucevic and Nicholson on their toughness. Hamilton would be a good teacher to work with Harkless.

The Suns trade I do not like. I personally would offer the #1-4 pick to the Wolves for Shved and the #9 if you can. Maybe throw something else in there with it.

Glennathan are you really that high on Shved? I personally am not. What in your mind makes him essentially the difference between 1-4 and 9?

I see that he is a young tall PG (6'5") that has a higher ceiling than Jameer Nelson which is who people are comparing Burke to. Shved has good court vision and work ethic from the
T-Wolves games that I saw this year. Plus with the #9 pick we could possibly target Zeller or someone that could be the muscle PF that we need next to Vucevic.

Just my opinion and how I see it

[Neon1]

Shved looked pretty sub-par. Bad shooter with worse shot selection. If you're going to chuck threes shouldnt you at least be able to make more then 29.5% of them? Doubtful he ever reaches Jameers level IMO.

[Dunstown magic]

Yea sorry glennathan wasn't trying to have a go just wanted to see why you thought so highly of him. I tend to agree with Neon1 he shot poorly especially from 3 he has a goodish handle but nothing great, i do agree that if he's playing pg he is a big Pg with good vision however he tended to play more off ball from what i saw of timberwolves games that however may have more to do with the fact that they were so riddled with injuries on the wings. Also iirc he's not that young hes already 24/25ish.

[RYgoBOOM]

Shved looked pretty sub-par. Bad shooter with worse shot selection. If you're going to chuck threes shouldnt you at least be able to make more then 29.5% of them? Doubtful he ever reaches Jameers level IMO.

Agreed.


His shooting %'s scare be away completely.


That and he's not even THAT young

[BadMofoPimp]

I like Shved better than Noel!

[tiderulz]

In regards to the draft, If i were Hennigan I would be aiming to pick up either Trey Burke or Ben Mclemore and then trying to acquire another 1st round pick between 15-25 and picking up Steven Adams. Adams is a specimen very very raw offensively, however the man is a beast and a great athlete. In my opinion he was under utilized at pitt. Its on the defensive side that Adams excels hes big, long, athletic and moves well and has fairly good defensive instincts particularly blocking shots. I do think that he is going to rise on draft boards once the combine begins because of this size and athleticism and teams maybe willing to take a risk in a weaker draft. I don't doubt that he'll be a project but one worth taking a risk on in a weak draft.

Orlando could trade with Phoenix for what could be #4 and #30 and that could get Burke and Adams. Additionally, the TPE to the Bulls for Boozer and #20 makes sense (maybe Harrington gets thrown in for Hamilton to balance that out). In that scenario, Orlando would have three rookies: lets call them Burke, Adetokoubo, and Adams.

The roster becomes:
Nelson/Burke/Adetokoubo
Afflalo/Moore/Lamb?
Harkless/Hamilton/Jones
Davis/Harris/Nicholson
Vučević/O'Quinn/Adams

That's quite an interesting roster. Depth and balance are the strengths. I can see 30+ wins there, if Nelson, Afflalo, and Davis can all log 70 games a piece.


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I like the idea of getting Boozer and Hamilton from the Bulls. Boozer could work with Vucevic and Nicholson on their toughness. Hamilton would be a good teacher to work with Harkless.

The Suns trade I do not like. I personally would offer the #1-4 pick to the Wolves for Shved and the #9 if you can. Maybe throw something else in there with it.

vets moving to a losing team do not always make the best teachers. Their money is guaranteed, so there is not a big incentive to teach the young players. I dont know enough about either one to know how they would react. I know Rip wasnt happy losing in Detroit and wen to Chicago to play and then got banished to the bench.

[tranjSAIC]

I like Shved better than Noel!

Wonder how rich you would be if someone gave you a cent for every time you rag on Noel. lol

[BadMofoPimp]

I like Shved better than Noel!

Wonder how rich you would be if someone gave you a cent for every time you rag on Noel. lol

Not as rich as someone who got a nickle for every time they ragged on BBD or praised Noel!!!

[tranjSAIC]

I like Shved better than Noel!

Wonder how rich you would be if someone gave you a cent for every time you rag on Noel. lol

Not as rich as someone who got a nickle for every time they ragged on BBD or praised Noel!!!

I honestly don't think that many people here love Noel, more people are like me. They see him as being the best player in this incredibly bad drafts so we are stuck with him.

[BadMofoPimp]

I honestly don't think that many people here love Noel, more people are like me. They see him as being the best player in this incredibly bad drafts so we are stuck with him.

All good. I just don't want to be the team that wastes a draft pick on a player who never gets off the bench being in the history books as being one of the biggest bust's in NBA history. I feel that strongly about his injury and Thabeet like abilities. Thus, I don't think he is the best player by far. I think Otto Porter is much better.

[UCF]

Count me in the corner of not being sold on Noel. Sure we he will be a good player, just not convinced he's what the magic need. If I had the choice, we would trade down if the right deal if offered.

[RYgoBOOM]

I'm hoping he turns into a consensus #1 after docs look at him.

If that happens then our ability to trade the #1 pick down seems very doable

[tranjSAIC]

I'm hoping he turns into a consensus #1 after docs look at him.

If that happens then our ability to trade the #1 pick down seems very doable

I'm down with that idea. If we could trade him for a top 10 pick next year, I would call that a slam dunk!

[fendilim]

I honestly don't think that many people here love Noel, more people are like me. They see him as being the best player in this incredibly bad drafts so we are stuck with him.

All good. I just don't want to be the team that wastes a draft pick on a player who never gets off the bench being in the history books as being one of the biggest bust's in NBA history. I feel that strongly about his injury and Thabeet like abilities. Thus, I don't think he is the best player by far. I think Otto Porter is much better.

Whoa... Theres not a player in this draft that has proven anything yet. Noel just holds the high potential of them all.

[BadMofoPimp]

Whoa... Theres not a player in this draft that has proven anything yet. Noel just holds the high potential of them all.

All good! Noel has the lowest floor of them all too being he is a player with serious knee issues who has no fundamental skills. He can just jump up and possibly block a few shots with a thin body who got pushed around by college players.

[Blue_and_Whte]

I'm hoping he turns into a consensus #1 after docs look at him.

If that happens then our ability to trade the #1 pick down seems very doable

agreed

[InFlames]

Whoa... Theres not a player in this draft that has proven anything yet. Noel just holds the high potential of them all.

All good! Noel has the lowest floor of them all too being he is a player with serious knee issues who has no fundamental skills. He can just jump up and possibly block a few shots with a thin body who got pushed around by college players.

What? Lowest floor? His floor is a faster more athletic Marcus Camby. He has the highest floor in the draft.

[RYgoBOOM]

Whoa... Theres not a player in this draft that has proven anything yet. Noel just holds the high potential of them all.

All good! Noel has the lowest floor of them all too being he is a player with serious knee issues who has no fundamental skills. He can just jump up and possibly block a few shots with a thin body who got pushed around by college players.

What? Lowest floor? His floor is a faster more athletic Marcus Camby. He has the highest floor in the draft.

I'll disagree here with him having the highest floor. He has a torn ACL on top of compounding knee injuries from the past. His floor is he might not be back to what he even was in college....let a lone better.

I'm not sure henny goes for an injured guy.......no way imo

[InFlames]

All good! Noel has the lowest floor of them all too being he is a player with serious knee issues who has no fundamental skills. He can just jump up and possibly block a few shots with a thin body who got pushed around by college players.

What? Lowest floor? His floor is a faster more athletic Marcus Camby. He has the highest floor in the draft.

I'll disagree here with him having the highest floor. He has a torn ACL on top of compounding knee injuries from the past. His floor is he might not be back to what he even was in college....let a lone better.

I'm not sure henny goes for an injured guy.......no way imo

He has had literally two injuries, both of which are completely separate. His growth plate fracture has absolutely no impact on his knee or his acl injury.