Adams declares

Johnlac1 · Post #41 » by **Johnlac1** » Fri Apr 5, 2013 1:23 am

EddieJonesFan wrote:H seems like he has a good attitude and work ethic though, which didn't seem to be the case with Drummond. He's not an athletic freak like Drummond though.

His outstanding athleticism for his size is why NBA scouts are interested despite his lack of skills. He might not be quite the athlete as Drummond is, but he's got an outstanding package of size and athleticism.

EddieJonesFan · Post #42 » by **EddieJonesFan** » Fri Apr 5, 2013 1:46 am

Johnlac1 wrote:
EddieJonesFan wrote:H seems like he has a good attitude and work ethic though, which didn't seem to be the case with Drummond. He's not an athletic freak like Drummond though.

His outstanding athleticism for his size is why NBA scouts are interested despite his lack of skills. He might not be quite the athlete as Drummond is, but he's got an outstanding package of size and athleticism.

I agree, I was only saying that he's not the freak that Drummond is.

Roger Murdock · Post #43 » by **Roger Murdock** » Fri Apr 5, 2013 2:13 am

English may be his first and only language - but I agree - I dont think he understands it well.

maoriboy · Post #44 » by **maoriboy** » Fri Apr 5, 2013 6:35 am

Johnlac1 wrote:
EddieJonesFan wrote:H seems like he has a good attitude and work ethic though, which didn't seem to be the case with Drummond. He's not an athletic freak like Drummond though.

His outstanding athleticism for his size is why NBA scouts are interested despite his lack of skills. He might not be quite the athlete as Drummond is, but he's got an outstanding package of size and athleticism.

Hes a more conservative defender and better at defending the pick and roll, then Andre.

Id say it now, when they were talking about top 3 or 5, he'd be seen as a bust.

But the lower his stock is the better he'll seem.

He's going first round, late lotto, hopefully to a team thats patient and can give him development opportunities.

No-Man · Post #45 » by **No-Man** » Fri Apr 5, 2013 6:41 am

Dallas is by far the best fit.

boogie-reke · Post #46 » by **boogie-reke** » Fri Apr 5, 2013 6:51 am

What I really liked about him is he is very involved in the game even without the ball.

As said before, always sets pick, always uses his body to create those little holes in the defense, I liked that part of him alot and think it's a fundamental part that alot of big-man today don't have cause it doesn't show on stats and doesn't get rewarded. Was refreshing to watch.

I instantly got a Bogut vibe strictly cause of that, Bogut is very much like that aswell.

MalonesElbows · Post #47 » by **MalonesElbows** » Fri Apr 5, 2013 9:13 pm

Fischella wrote:Dallas is by far the best fit.

Dallas will take a PG. Collison is expiring and awful anyways. They could choose to overpay and get Teague but see them grabbing MCW.

maoriboy · Post #48 » by **maoriboy** » Sat Apr 6, 2013 11:04 am

RC Buford scouting Adams in his last game in Pitt.

Duncan would mold him into a great defensive center

Marcus50 · Post #49 » by **Marcus50** » Mon May 13, 2013 7:05 pm

I would love spurs to take him but at 28 he is likely to have been taken in an earlier pick. Chicago or hawks seem likely

Marcus50 · Post #50 » by **Marcus50** » Mon May 13, 2013 7:10 pm

Adams is 7' and 250lb at 19. He will get bigger and stronger. His older sister is 6'4 260lb world and 2x Olympic shotput champion. Looked her up on google and man if genes mean much he will be a beast

Apollo64 · Post #51 » by **Apollo64** » Tue May 14, 2013 3:14 pm

I only watched the DX Youtube video on him, he struck me as being very unskilled with bad hands - fits in the "Big White Stiff" archetype mold. Size and athleticism are good, but nothing exceptional. He definitely has a high bust factor and should be a very risky pick even at the end of the 1st round.

beans-boy · Post #52 » by **beans-boy** » Tue May 14, 2013 4:09 pm

Apollo64 wrote:I only watched the DX Youtube video on him, he struck me as being very unskilled with bad hands - fits in the "Big White Stiff" archetype mold. Size and athleticism are good, but nothing exceptional. He definitely has a high bust factor and should be a very risky pick even at the end of the 1st round.

Haha

Geaux_Hawks · Post #53 » by **Geaux_Hawks** » Tue May 14, 2013 6:14 pm

Apollo64 wrote:I only watched the DX Youtube video on him, he struck me as being very unskilled with bad hands - fits in the "Big White Stiff" archetype mold. Size and athleticism are good, but nothing exceptional. He definitely has a high bust factor and should be a very risky pick even at the end of the 1st round.

Even if he does bust, it won't be because of him being a stiff with no skills. Dude already has a better foundation of skills than most ever acquire in a life time. Once he builds upon that, he will be a solid starter.

Apollo64 · Post #54 » by **Apollo64** » Tue May 14, 2013 7:05 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:
Apollo64 wrote:I only watched the DX Youtube video on him, he struck me as being very unskilled with bad hands - fits in the "Big White Stiff" archetype mold. Size and athleticism are good, but nothing exceptional. He definitely has a high bust factor and should be a very risky pick even at the end of the 1st round.

Even if he does bust, it won't be because of him being a stiff with no skills. Dude already has a better foundation of skills than most ever acquire in a life time. Once he builds upon that, he will be a solid starter.

What foundation of skills? Maybe he can do some stuff well in the offensive end apart from dunking the ball in the open court, i haven't noticed that. 44% for fts and his inability to finish well around the rim against lesser competition are pretty damning for me, that's not what you call skills. If he was an athletic freak like Drummond or super long like Asik, then he would be a very interesting project, but right now what i am seeing is nothing exceptional and a lot of drawbacks and limitations.

Johnlac1 · Post #55 » by **Johnlac1** » Tue May 14, 2013 10:52 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:
Apollo64 wrote:I only watched the DX Youtube video on him, he struck me as being very unskilled with bad hands - fits in the "Big White Stiff" archetype mold. Size and athleticism are good, but nothing exceptional. He definitely has a high bust factor and should be a very risky pick even at the end of the 1st round.

Even if he does bust, it won't be because of him being a stiff with no skills. Dude already has a better foundation of skills than most ever acquire in a life time. Once he builds upon that, he will be a solid starter.

What do you mean by skills? Off. skills? His off. skills are rudimentary. He has a lot of work to do not only on the skills part, but learning the game. Because he made good progress his freshman year does not mean he's ready for the pros. I see him sitting on the bench for two years before he gets appreciable time. At least two years. People thought Meyers Leonard was raw, but he was far ahead of Adams in the skills category coming out of college. I can see Leonard contributing positively to Portland next year. I can't see Adams contributing to some team for at least two or three years.

Devilanche · Post #56 » by **Devilanche** » Wed May 15, 2013 11:53 am

boogie-reke wrote:What I really liked about him is he is very involved in the game even without the ball.

As said before, always sets pick, always uses his body to create those little holes in the defense, I liked that part of him alot and think it's a fundamental part that alot of big-man today don't have cause it doesn't show on stats and doesn't get rewarded. Was refreshing to watch.

I instantly got a Bogut vibe strictly cause of that, Bogut is very much like that aswell.

i'm really intrigue by this description of Adams.

From OKC's perspective, if you're picking with that Toronto pick would you use it to pick Dieng or Adams?

if you think either is too high, would you trade down and pick up whoever of the 2 is there or trade down specifically for one of them?

Joel Embust · Post #57 » by **Joel Embust** » Wed May 15, 2013 1:08 pm

You always take the 19 year old with the defensive fundamentals and room to grow offensively.

Apollo64 · Post #58 » by **Apollo64** » Wed May 15, 2013 3:38 pm

Devilanche wrote:From OKC's perspective, if you're picking with that Toronto pick would you use it to pick Dieng or Adams?

Dieng all the way between those two but OKC has other options as well.

Bluewhale · Post #59 » by **Bluewhale** » Wed May 15, 2013 5:47 pm

For now
nbadraft.net mock draft is ranked 28
draftexpress mock draft is ranked 26

Why adams slided so much in past month?

Post #60 » by **TASTIC** » Thu May 16, 2013 8:48 pm

^No idea, before the season started he was looked at as a top 10 guy, then as a 19yr old he does 7-6-2blk in 23min in his first full season of organised ball in the US and suddenly he drops 20 spots.

I think after the combine, tests and workouts etc he'll be 15-20.

He reminds me of a young Tyson Chandler, not quite as athletic and more advanced physically (ie frame/strength) at the same age. He has a man's body and could still add 15-20lb of muscle, he has massive shoulders/hands and as others have said, he sets hard screens and he has a mean streak which will develop more if he slips a little in the draft. I'd LOVE the Suns to nab him with #30 but he won't slip that far...