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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#581 » by DusterBuster » Thu May 16, 2013 7:48 pm

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You and you're tin-foil Tibbetts theory.


Lol...of course it is a big reach but that is what makes this time of year so much fun. Lots of rumors, speculation and conjecture.


:P Just givin' ya a hard time, even though I do think it's a silly theory. :P
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#582 » by JD45 » Thu May 16, 2013 7:48 pm

Jsun947 wrote:I don't see the point in trading Aldridge unless we are getting a good enough prospect back. Power Forward in the league is super weak right now. You don't trade Aldridge for cap space and a pick that might be between 1-20 next year.

I can't even think of a trade i'd pull the trigger on involving Aldridge.

Let's say Cleveland wants to take Matthews and Aldridge for cap space, Olapido, and next years first. That pick next year is more likely to be in the 16+ range than top 10


If the Blazers traded LMA to Cleveland, they are almost certainly getting Tristan Thompson back. He is a good young PF. 22 years old and averaged 11.7 ppg and 9.4 rpg with a 16.12 PER. He is not in LMA's class but looks like he can start at the position and has some upside.
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#583 » by Shem » Thu May 16, 2013 7:49 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jwquick/status/335113829140803585[/tweet]
April 4, 2014:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:I never said Dallas was good as Portland


Earlier on December 8, 2013:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:That's the Whole Point Portland is No better than Dallas
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#584 » by Shem » Thu May 16, 2013 7:49 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jwquick/status/335114149262680065[/tweet]
April 4, 2014:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:I never said Dallas was good as Portland


Earlier on December 8, 2013:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:That's the Whole Point Portland is No better than Dallas
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#585 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 16, 2013 7:51 pm

James Southerland seems interesting, anyone know about he/followed Cuse?
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#586 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 16, 2013 7:53 pm

Shem wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/jwquick/status/335113829140803585[/tweet]

Yea right he'll say anything. :roll:
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#587 » by Wizenheimer » Thu May 16, 2013 7:53 pm

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Jsun947 wrote:Gery Woelfel @GeryWoelfel about 6 minutes ago

Speaking of big men: Rudy Gobert was measured at 7-1 1/2 WITHOUT shoes. Has 7-8 1/2 wing span.

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2TTUbQ3ua


only 3 players in the DraftExpress database have had longer wingspans. And 7'1.5 without shoes means he'll be near a 7'3 C with good mobility and hops

like I said earlier, it's very unlikely he'll last till the 10th pick, even if he is a Euro player and there is some inherent skepticism about him

IMO, Portland best chance at a paint dominant defender is to get one young and unproven and go from there. But Portland probably had too good a record this season.

again, I wonder if the 10th pick + rights to Kostas Papanikolou would move Portland up in the draft order?

if the rave reviews of Gobert keep up, would 10th pick + rights to Kostas Papanikolou + Meyers Leonard be too much to pay for Gobert?

Damn Wiz, I had to double check your username. :D You really like this guy huh, He is impressing me too. I held my opinions of him cause he has no analysis videos, but Meyers and the 10th? some sites have him in the 20's.


don't get me wrong...he may very well not even be worth the 10th pick. I was just throwing stuff against the wall

but he's got incredible length...that can't be taught. And he appears to have decent mobility. Guys like Shawn Bradley and Manute Bol had length but not much mobility or reflex speed. Gobert may just be another stiff without an NBA future...I really don't know

I do know I don't like much about the 'established' C's that may be available. Okafor is way too expensive and way too old. Javale McGee is brain-dead and not nearly as good as the out-of-context stats indicate. Gortat is not a strong defender and an expiring contract. Jordan has no offensive game and can't be trusted in the 4th Q. There just aren't any good candidates out there. And the C's that are good candidates, like Asik, almost certainly won't be available

I've been leaning toward the idea that if Portland actually does land a high-level defensive C there won't be any shortcut. They'll have to do like Milwaukee did with Sanders and find one before his value his high, then have some patience while he develops. I know that doesn't fit the Aldridge timeline but that doesn't meen the Blazers should force something and do something stupid. Getting a mediocre vet C on a big, long, contract, especially if the acquisition cost is high, could very well equal doing something stupid
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#588 » by Shem » Thu May 16, 2013 7:54 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CSNNW/status/335120344673312768[/tweet]
April 4, 2014:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:I never said Dallas was good as Portland


Earlier on December 8, 2013:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:That's the Whole Point Portland is No better than Dallas
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#589 » by TBpup » Thu May 16, 2013 7:55 pm

Jason Quick @jwquick

Of note on Franklin: His wing span was measured at 6-foot-11 1/4 ... In other words, very impressive
12:26 PM - 16 May 2013


A big fan of large wingspan. Also, he is said to have a great motor. Probably a #20s guy in terms of the draft but I like his attitude.
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#590 » by Goldbum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:27 pm

OK so I want either a Shabazz/Adams or a Gorbert/Franklin draft. I'm starting to feel like #1 may be a bit less likely cuz it seems Adams is climbing pretty quick. Imagine a Lillard/Franklin/LMA/ Gobert lineup. Talk about shrinking the court with wingspan.
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#591 » by Wizenheimer » Thu May 16, 2013 8:44 pm

Goldbum wrote:OK so I want either a Shabazz/Adams or a Gorbert/Franklin draft. I'm starting to feel like #1 may be a bit less likely cuz it seems Adams is climbing pretty quick. Imagine a Lillard/Franklin/LMA/ Gobert lineup. Talk about shrinking the court with wingspan.


are you saying Portland drafts two 1st round guys?

how will they get that 2nd first round pick?
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adding 2 rookies to a team that had 5 last season doesn't seem to be the direction Paul Allen wants to go
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Post#592 » by SinceClyde » Thu May 16, 2013 8:57 pm

Adding assets is the way Neil olshey wants to go tough
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#593 » by Goldbum » Thu May 16, 2013 9:03 pm

I think that with our 2nds and maybe Barton we can get that additional late 1st rounder.
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Post#594 » by Wizenheimer » Thu May 16, 2013 9:05 pm

SinceClyde wrote:Adding assets is the way Neil olshey wants to go tough


trouble is that if the goal is to add assets for a trade, it helps if those assets have MLE-level salaries rather then rookie salaries that are a fraction of an MLE.
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#595 » by Wizenheimer » Thu May 16, 2013 9:10 pm

Goldbum wrote:I think that with our 2nds and maybe Barton we can get that additional late 1st rounder.


I doubt it, but even if possible, all those players you listed appear to be headed for the top-20 or so in the draft. I do not think 2nd round picks are going to give Portland nearly enough leverage to get that high

if it's true however, that several teams are interested in Kostsa Papanikolou, Portland might be able to lure somebody into a deal

Personally, if the Blazers are going to go for another rookie(s), I'd prefer quality over quantity and that they leverage assets like that along with the 10th to move up even higher in the lottery, assuming the BPA is just a little out of reach
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#596 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 16, 2013 9:26 pm

I can't believe I am saying this but I think Bazz is too risky @ 10. Reminds me to much of Xavier Henry.
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#597 » by Shem » Thu May 16, 2013 10:12 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/pdxtrailblazers/status/335155241098031104[/tweet]
April 4, 2014:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:I never said Dallas was good as Portland


Earlier on December 8, 2013:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:That's the Whole Point Portland is No better than Dallas
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Post#598 » by JasonStern » Thu May 16, 2013 10:14 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:would 10th pick + rights to Kostas Papanikolou + Meyers Leonard be too much to pay for Gobert?

Blazers should force something and do something stupid. Getting a mediocre vet C on a big, long, contract, especially if the acquisition cost is high, could very well equal doing something stupid


one can argue that giving up on a just turned 21 year old meyers leonard after one year of player development plus a lotto draft pick for a player that can only earn 10 minutes a game in eurocup could very well equal doing something stupid.


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Goldbum wrote:I think that with our 2nds and maybe Barton we can get that additional late 1st rounder.


I doubt it, but even if possible, all those players you listed appear to be headed for the top-20 or so in the draft. I do not think 2nd round picks are going to give Portland nearly enough leverage to get that high


#30 from oklahoma city looks pretty attainable. why take on guaranteed salary in a weak draft when they already have the #12 pick? but I do agree that players like dieng and franklin will likely be gone well before then.


GreenRiddler wrote:I can't believe I am saying this but I think Bazz is too risky @ 10. Reminds me to much of Xavier Henry.


I'm not seeing the henry player comparison. muhammad is a much more prolific scorer and much more of a black hole.
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#599 » by Shem » Thu May 16, 2013 11:01 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/blazers_olive/status/335166953419325441[/tweet]
April 4, 2014:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:I never said Dallas was good as Portland


Earlier on December 8, 2013:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:That's the Whole Point Portland is No better than Dallas
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Re: Draft prospect early editon ***Updated Polls 

Post#600 » by DusterBuster » Thu May 16, 2013 11:44 pm

JasonStern wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:would 10th pick + rights to Kostas Papanikolou + Meyers Leonard be too much to pay for Gobert?

Blazers should force something and do something stupid. Getting a mediocre vet C on a big, long, contract, especially if the acquisition cost is high, could very well equal doing something stupid


one can argue that giving up on a just turned 21 year old meyers leonard after one year of player development plus a lotto draft pick for a player that can only earn 10 minutes a game in eurocup could very well equal doing something stupid.


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