Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIV "Lottery/Draft"Edition)

[RapHippy]

Warming up to drafting a player as a spot up shooter who is athletic is good.

Warming up to drafting a player as a spot up shooter who is athletic as a top 3 pick is foolish.

Mclemore is NOT like Ray Allen. Not prime Ray Allen, the comparison to Allen comes from his years from 2008 til now. Prime Ray Allen and young Ray Allen were players who could be 1st options, who could and did handle the ball a lot as the 1st option, and also slashed as much as he did shoot. He was even more athletic than Mclemore is now and was a far superior player.

I would much rather pick Oladipo, a tenacious guard with good defensive instinct and imporving offensive skill, rather than Mclemore.

[InFlames]

To be fair McLemore is not just a spot up shooter. He gets open easily, can run around screens quickly and has a lightning fast release. These are all the things that Ray Allen did well, that is why they use that comparison.

[KingRobb02]

To be fair McLemore is not just a spot up shooter. He gets open easily, can run around screens quickly and has a lightning fast release. These are all the things that Ray Allen did well, that is why they use that comparison.

Calling McLemore Ray Allen because he can shoot is like calling Royce White Lebron James because he can pass.

[InFlames]

To be fair McLemore is not just a spot up shooter. He gets open easily, can run around screens quickly and has a lightning fast release. These are all the things that Ray Allen did well, that is why they use that comparison.

Calling McLemore Ray Allen because he can shoot is like calling Royce White Lebron James because he can pass.

No one is calling him Ray Allen, I'm most definitely not. I am explaining why some people use the Ray Allen comparison.

[RYgoBOOM]

Seems like all it will come down to is who Henny likes and wants to keep around out of Jameer, AA, and BBD.

Every move he makes depends on who is staying......

[Skin]

To be fair McLemore is not just a spot up shooter. He gets open easily, can run around screens quickly and has a lightning fast release. These are all the things that Ray Allen did well, that is why they use that comparison.

Calling McLemore Ray Allen because he can shoot is like calling Royce White Lebron James because he can pass.

[rcklsscognition]

I think there is some definite merit in the concern over McLemore's willingness to be passive and allow others to take over the game. But he is a lot faster and much more athletic than many are giving him credit for. He is a fantastic cutter and a good finisher (not leader) of a fast break. He closes space on defense like few other players in the draft. Amazing body control and fantastic shooting mechanics. I think he might be slightly more athletic than Allen was and he is faster.

Go watch this and then go watch Ben's draft video. They're the same player.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI7A3ILE6Ks[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzufDLiYTNc[/youtube]

[OrlChamps2030]

That's exactly what AA was before he got here.

He shot 40.2%, 43.4%, 42.3%, 39.8% from downtown 4 years in a row before coming to ORL. What you want out of BMac... that's exactly what we already have. People just got thrown off because AA was asked to carry the load and his efficiency numbers dropped off. But ideally, he plays the Ray Allen role on this team.

We don't need McLinvisible.

I really don't want McLemore he really isn't that much better than mid rounder's that could give us his production and possible do other things. I mean we have guys like Crabbe, Hardaway Jr, Glen Rice Jr, KcP, Bullock, Covington, Ledo, and others that could give us what McLemore would probably give us.

You pretty much just posted every single SG in the draft lol... Most of those guys either: aren't as athletic as McLemore or not as good of a shooter as McLemore. Or both.

[Truth24]

That's exactly what AA was before he got here.

He shot 40.2%, 43.4%, 42.3%, 39.8% from downtown 4 years in a row before coming to ORL. What you want out of BMac... that's exactly what we already have. People just got thrown off because AA was asked to carry the load and his efficiency numbers dropped off. But ideally, he plays the Ray Allen role on this team.

We don't need McLinvisible.

I really don't want McLemore he really isn't that much better than mid rounder's that could give us his production and possible do other things. I mean we have guys like Crabbe, Hardaway Jr, Glen Rice Jr, KcP, Bullock, Covington, Ledo, and others that could give us what McLemore would probably give us.

You pretty much just posted every single SG in the draft lol... Most of those guys either: aren't as athletic as McLemore or not as good of a shooter as McLemore. Or both.

I would argue that Crabbe, Hardaay, and Bullock are all better shooters than McLemore and while he is more athletic than most he is not a superior athlete. I look at it this way I would much rather have Bullock or Crabbe in the second round than waste a top four on McLemore.

[InFlames]

I really don't want McLemore he really isn't that much better than mid rounder's that could give us his production and possible do other things. I mean we have guys like Crabbe, Hardaway Jr, Glen Rice Jr, KcP, Bullock, Covington, Ledo, and others that could give us what McLemore would probably give us.

You pretty much just posted every single SG in the draft lol... Most of those guys either: aren't as athletic as McLemore or not as good of a shooter as McLemore. Or both.

I would argue that Crabbe, Hardaay, and Bullock are all better shooters than McLemore and while he is more athletic than most he is not a superior athlete. I look at it this way I would much rather have Bullock or Crabbe in the second round than waste a top four on McLemore.

McLemore is a WAY better prospect than all of them. Compare McLemore's freshman stats to theirs. It's not even close. I'm not saying we should take McLemore but to even put him in the same sentence as Crabbe and Bullock is silly.

[Truth24]

You pretty much just posted every single SG in the draft lol... Most of those guys either: aren't as athletic as McLemore or not as good of a shooter as McLemore. Or both.

I would argue that Crabbe, Hardaay, and Bullock are all better shooters than McLemore and while he is more athletic than most he is not a superior athlete. I look at it this way I would much rather have Bullock or Crabbe in the second round than waste a top four on McLemore.

McLemore is a WAY better prospect than all of them. Compare McLemore's freshman stats to theirs. It's not even close. I'm not saying we should take McLemore but to even put him in the same sentence as Crabbe and Bullock is silly.

I'm not saying he isn't a better prospect than them because he is but I still stand firm in saying that I would rather take Bullock or Crabbe in the second than take McLemore in the top four. I really don't see much out of him besides a spot up shooter that can slash. If we are going that route both Crabbe and Bullock are better shooters and they are second round prospects.

[InFlames]

I would argue that Crabbe, Hardaay, and Bullock are all better shooters than McLemore and while he is more athletic than most he is not a superior athlete. I look at it this way I would much rather have Bullock or Crabbe in the second round than waste a top four on McLemore.

McLemore is a WAY better prospect than all of them. Compare McLemore's freshman stats to theirs. It's not even close. I'm not saying we should take McLemore but to even put him in the same sentence as Crabbe and Bullock is silly.

I'm not saying he isn't a better prospect than them because he is but I still stand firm in saying that I would rather take Bullock or Crabbe in the second than take McLemore in the top four. I really don't see much out of him besides a spot up shooter that can slash. If we are going that route both Crabbe and Bullock are better shooters and they are second round prospects.

McLemore is a better shooter than both of them, Bullock has a slightly higher 3p%.

Mac shoots 49% fg, 42% 3
Crabbe shoots 45% fg 35% 3
Bullock shoots 48% fg 43% 3

And thats with both of them being in their 3rd year college. Sorry, I'm not attacking you, I'm just bored. I'm not even high on McLemore.

[Neon1]

McLemore is a better shooter than both of them, Bullock has a slightly higher 3p%.

Mac shoots 49% fg, 42% 3
Crabbe shoots 45% fg 35% 3
Bullock shoots 48% fg 43% 3

And thats with both of them being in their 3rd year college. Sorry, I'm not attacking you, I'm just bored. I'm not even high on McLemore.

This guy CRUSHES them all.....
.485 FG .475 3PT .811 FT
Who is this guy?

[InFlames]

McLemore is a better shooter than both of them, Bullock has a slightly higher 3p%.

Mac shoots 49% fg, 42% 3
Crabbe shoots 45% fg 35% 3
Bullock shoots 48% fg 43% 3

And thats with both of them being in their 3rd year college. Sorry, I'm not attacking you, I'm just bored. I'm not even high on McLemore.

This guy CRUSHES them all.....
.485 FG .475 3PT .811 FT
Who is this guy?

lol

[rcklsscognition]

[Skin]

All of this talk about McLemore while Oladipo gets ignored is interesting.

[Noonskadoodle]

Top 4 Pick:

Burke
Oladipo
Noel

IF We Acquire a Later 1st:

Dieng
Withey
Gobert
Mitchell
Leslie
Brown
Larkin
Hardaway Jr
Snell
KCP

2nd Round:

Felix
Crabbe
Ledo
Rice Jr
Bullock
Carmichael

A lot of different options Henny could go in this draft. Not your typical draft at all. Anything could happen.

Id like...

Early 1st: Burke- A guy who can come in & become a leader of our young team going forward in the future, & is gonna give a lot of defenses some major headaches in the future.

Later 1st: Mitchell/Leslie- WHATTTTTT? I actually really really love what either of these guys could bring to our team. Neither were really all that thrilled & excited & into every game at the college level, but I think they turn that around in the NBA. This pick here is where I really wish we still had SVG around. These 2 guys have so much potential its crazy, possibly the most potential overall in the draft. I can only dream of what SVG could have turned one of these guys into, specifically on the DEFENSIVE end. I just love both of their versatility & think they would be a good fit next to Vuc for the future.....What Leslie timed in the drills at the combine is pretty phenomenal. As a NC State fan, I know what the risk is with this guy though, but man the reward could be too sweet to pass up...& ever since I heard Mitchell compare himself to Faried, I can't get that out of my head haha. Faried is the kind of guy you want next to Vuc going forward.

2nd Round: Carrick Felix- This guy has really grown on me. Just love everything about his game & what he brings to the table. Really think he could be a Tony Allen-esque pest on defense.....but he CAN SHOOT THE BALL. He is a really good athlete too. 32 inch Standing Vert & 38.5 Max Vert.

Everything can change by tomorrow though

[94_MagicFan]

Does it mean anything that we haven't interviewed Burke yet

[fendilim]

I do believe that we'll use one of our TPE for a chance to acquire another 1st rounder/s.

[JustinLafferty]

I have been following this forum for awhile but haven't really posted much. I have to wonder with the reports that Greg Oden looks healthy and ready. What's the odds of us trying to bring him to Orlando? I realize we already have Vucevic but you can never have too many big men? I mean we could theoretically even still draft Noel and just allow them both to come back slowly and limit minutes. Possibly flip one of them at the deadline or you could always take whichever you like of the Burke/McLemore/Oladipo trio.... I don't trust Oden to stay healthy necessarily but on a team friendly 1 year deal with a higher guarantee than others teams with team friendly options for Year 2/3.