Based purely from a statistical look.
99 DRTG
2.5 STL%
6.5 BLK%
+0.4 Def On/Off
108.1 Team DRTG (24th of 30)
How do you reconcile the high individual DRTG with the poor on/off and team DRTG? Obviously Drummond was limited by minutes and injury, but that's still a huge gap.
What do you make of a guy like Drummond defensively?
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10 games started and 20.7 mpg on the season; how much impact could he have ever had?
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For a young rookie, that his defensive on/off isn't a disaster is a very good sign of things to come.
And in limited minutes, he's not going to turn a Detroit team with many other problems into a strong defense.
And in limited minutes, he's not going to turn a Detroit team with many other problems into a strong defense.
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He played alot of his minutes with Bynum, Villanueva and Daye.
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Re: What do you make of a guy like Drummond defensively?
Well, he's backing up Monroe, so his on/off stats will only be poor if he's a horrible defender. And Drtg is a bad stat. It just throws in box score stats like blocks/steals/rebounds to the team's defensive rating. That tells you very little. You know about a guy's blocks and rebounds already; that's easy to find.
His RAPM was -0.9 on defense, which actually isn't bad because RAPM models usually assume rookies are negatives generally. I don't know what the prior for rookies was this season, but I think -0.9 is better than the prior.
There is no one like him given his age and basic defensive stats:
http://bkref.com/tiny/FpPNY
If you relax the standards you get a weird list:
http://bkref.com/tiny/pWVXa
Yes, Anthony Davis, Shaq, and Biedrins.
For lineup analysis, comparing lineups with a guy replacing Drummond, here are some sets:
Knight-Stuckey-Singler-Monroe-Drummond, 116.4 minutes, 1.14 def rating
Knight-Stuckey-Singler-Maxiell-Monroe, 63.1 minutes, 1.03 def rating
Knight-Stuckey-Prince-Monroe-Drummond, 68.7 minutes. 0.97 def rating
Knight-Stuckey-Prince-Maxiell-Monroe, 265 minutes, 1.04 def rating
Calderon-Knight-Singler-Monroe-Drummond, 56.1, 1.15 def rating
Calderon-Knight-Singler-Maxiell-Monroe, 226.3 minutes, 1.05 def rating
So according to that Maxiell is a much better defender? That seems like a stretch. RAPM had Maxiell at +2.4 though.
Given that he was a young freshman in college who went to the NBA after one year, what you really want is defensive potential, and he grades out well here. Drummond has a 9' 1.5" standing reach and a 7' 6" wingspan, which are good numbers for a center. I always saw Drummond as a young Howard, and Howard has a couple inches in standing reach but a couple less in wingspan, oddly enough. If Drummond gets a good defensive coach and puts in the work, I could see him like the next Dwight Howard though probably a little weaker. Howard had a sprint time of 3.14 seconds, by the way, which is something you'd expect from a guard, but Drummond was only at 3.39 seconds. So I think his overall defense will have less of an impact than peak Howard, but in the paint and on the glass he should be able to approximate him.
His RAPM was -0.9 on defense, which actually isn't bad because RAPM models usually assume rookies are negatives generally. I don't know what the prior for rookies was this season, but I think -0.9 is better than the prior.
There is no one like him given his age and basic defensive stats:
http://bkref.com/tiny/FpPNY
If you relax the standards you get a weird list:
http://bkref.com/tiny/pWVXa
Yes, Anthony Davis, Shaq, and Biedrins.
For lineup analysis, comparing lineups with a guy replacing Drummond, here are some sets:
Knight-Stuckey-Singler-Monroe-Drummond, 116.4 minutes, 1.14 def rating
Knight-Stuckey-Singler-Maxiell-Monroe, 63.1 minutes, 1.03 def rating
Knight-Stuckey-Prince-Monroe-Drummond, 68.7 minutes. 0.97 def rating
Knight-Stuckey-Prince-Maxiell-Monroe, 265 minutes, 1.04 def rating
Calderon-Knight-Singler-Monroe-Drummond, 56.1, 1.15 def rating
Calderon-Knight-Singler-Maxiell-Monroe, 226.3 minutes, 1.05 def rating
So according to that Maxiell is a much better defender? That seems like a stretch. RAPM had Maxiell at +2.4 though.
Given that he was a young freshman in college who went to the NBA after one year, what you really want is defensive potential, and he grades out well here. Drummond has a 9' 1.5" standing reach and a 7' 6" wingspan, which are good numbers for a center. I always saw Drummond as a young Howard, and Howard has a couple inches in standing reach but a couple less in wingspan, oddly enough. If Drummond gets a good defensive coach and puts in the work, I could see him like the next Dwight Howard though probably a little weaker. Howard had a sprint time of 3.14 seconds, by the way, which is something you'd expect from a guard, but Drummond was only at 3.39 seconds. So I think his overall defense will have less of an impact than peak Howard, but in the paint and on the glass he should be able to approximate him.
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