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2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59)

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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1281 » by Esohny » Wed May 22, 2013 2:38 pm

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Which is fine if he takes KCP.

Hoping for KCP at 9 and Bullock/Adetokunbo/Karasev/Withey at 26.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1282 » by Klomp » Wed May 22, 2013 2:58 pm

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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1283 » by C.lupus » Wed May 22, 2013 3:01 pm

I was coming here to say that I wouldn't be surprised if they pick someone like Len instead of KCP at 9.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1284 » by Klomp » Wed May 22, 2013 3:03 pm

C.lupus wrote:I was coming here to say that I wouldn't be surprised if they pick someone like Len instead of KCP at 9.

Honestly, I love his fit both next to Love and in Adelman's offense. Plus MOAR FOREIGNERS!
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9 lotto odds, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1285 » by Biff Cooper » Wed May 22, 2013 3:05 pm

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nickforthreee wrote:KCP- like you said his percentage wasnt great because of the amount he had to take on that horrible team and the fact that he doesnt have the best shot selection, but he is the deadliest 3pt shooter of this group. i watched id say 80% of georgias games this year and ive never seen him miss when he was wide open. he consistently hits shots from 3 or 4 feet behind the arc, sometimes off the dribble and unbalanced. he also hits clutch shots, and is excellent at coming off screens. hes much more of a shooter than just a spot up shooter, he can create his shot also which gives him the edge here.

Since you've seen him a lot, maybe you can help me out. The DX scouting video for him called decision-making his 1st weekness. Would you agree with this? They showed a bunch of highlights / lowlights where he made very poor decisions, often forcing up shots in end of game situations, or attempting mediocre shots with too much time left on the clock, or getting a big switched out onto him and trying to force up a long jumpshot rather than trying to get past him. I don't want to make too much of a couple of plays as everyone is entitled to the occasional mental screw-up, but I'm still left with the impression that his basketball IQ isn't very high and it's going to be something the team that drafts him is going to struggle with his entire career. Is this a fair fear, or are these video clips more anomolies in the big picture?


I think part of it is the fact that whenever he did kick it out to an open teammate, they would brick. His team literally looked like a YMCA team out there. He will have so much talent around him in the NBA i dont think its going to be a big issue. Also for those saying JR smith, jr smith has always had an ego, KCP is a very quiet and humble kid, his college coach says hes very easy to coach and a great kid. So while i understand the fear because he did take some questionable shots to say the least, i dont think its going to be a problem in the NBA. he even said in the draftexpress interview that he needs to work on his decision making.


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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1286 » by C.lupus » Wed May 22, 2013 3:08 pm

DX mock is interesting.

First Round
1 Nerlens Noel C
2 Ben McLemore SG
3 Anthony Bennett PF
4 Victor Oladipo SG
5 Otto Porter SF
6 Alex Len C
7 Trey Burke PG
8 C.J. McCollum PG/SG
9 Shabazz Muhammad SF
10 Rudy Gobert C

They have Len going to NO at 6. I could easily see the Pelicans taking Burke, though. Then you have the Kings and Detroit who have their C position locked up. Len could very well fall to 9.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1287 » by shrink » Wed May 22, 2013 3:35 pm

C.lupus wrote:They have Len going to NO at 6. I could easily see the Pelicans taking Burke, though. Then you have the Kings and Detroit who have their C position locked up. Len could very well fall to 9.


That'd be a nice off-season. Back-up center is a position of extreme need, and to lock one in cheap for several years would be terrific. We could then hope to get Mayo for the MLE, get Afflalo for Derrick Williams + JJ/Barea, bring back Pek and Budinger, and that's not a bad team:

Rubio, Barea
Afflalo, Shved, M Lee
Kirilenko, Bjelica?
Love, Cunningham?
Pekovic, Len, Steimsma?, C Johnson

#26 -Karasev?
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1288 » by Klomp » Wed May 22, 2013 5:00 pm

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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1289 » by Krapinsky » Wed May 22, 2013 5:04 pm

shrink wrote:
Rubio, Barea
Afflalo, Shved, M Lee
Kirilenko, Bjelica?
Love, Cunningham?
Pekovic, Len, Steimsma?, C Johnson

#26 -Karasev?


Looks okay on paper, but I think with the emphasis on finding a knock down shooter, they'll likely look elsewhere than Afflalo. Rubio-Afflalo-AK doesn't provide a lot of shooting or offense. One might think the same with Oladipo, but with Flip comparing him to Dwyane Wade I don't think he would necessarily agree.

I'd love a Len + KCP draft and wonder if we can get Len at 9, whether someone would trade their pick in the teens for D-Will. Dallas is said to want to move their pick, but they don't want to take on salary. Who else?

I've seen the Oladipo-Allen comparisons thrown out by Klomp, but the guy that reminds me the most of Allen in this draft is Jamaal Franklin. If he falls to 26, I think he'd be a really nice get.

It looks like there could be a chance Oladipo AND Mclemore could fall to 4, which would present an opportunity for us to trade up and grab one of those guys. Could definitely see the chip falling Noel-Burke-Bennet, leaving McLemore and Oladipo at 4 for a Wiz team that already has their starting back court set.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1290 » by Klomp » Wed May 22, 2013 5:08 pm

Krapinsky wrote:I've seen the Oladipo-Allen comparisons thrown out by Klomp, but the guy that reminds me the most of Allen in this draft is Jamaal Franklin. If he falls to 26, I think he'd be a really nice get.

I've thought of Franklin as the complete opposite. Much better on offense than defense.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1291 » by rugbyrugger23 » Wed May 22, 2013 5:19 pm

I think the Wolves should look for Jared Allen trade...entire '13 draft (even DWill) for proven NBA player(s), ideally at SG and C. Wolves are on the cusp of winning now, don't need another rookie to develop or bust.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1292 » by NikolaPekovic » Wed May 22, 2013 5:22 pm

I don't think the lolcats or wiz would turn down Dwill.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1293 » by Krapinsky » Wed May 22, 2013 5:25 pm

rugbyrugger23 wrote:I think the Wolves should look for Jared Allen trade...entire '13 draft (even DWill) for proven NBA player(s), ideally at SG and C. Wolves are on the cusp of winning now, don't need another rookie to develop or bust.


Eh... there's not a player we could get that really would make us a top 4 team. I'd rather roll the dice and hope to get an All-Star for the next decade to put next to Rubio and Love. I'm not saying anyone in the draft is going to be the next Wade, Pierce, or George, but those guys went 4, 9, and 10 in their drafts, so the chance to luck into a star is definitely there.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1294 » by Krapinsky » Wed May 22, 2013 5:38 pm

NikolaPekovic wrote:I don't think the lolcats or wiz would turn down Dwill.


Yeah, have to think anyone considering taking Bennet in the top 4 might rather have D-Will and #9.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1295 » by NikolaPekovic » Wed May 22, 2013 6:10 pm

Bullock is the perfect pick at 26. Perfect role player on the wing. Can shoot the 3 and defend.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1296 » by Klomp » Wed May 22, 2013 6:16 pm

NikolaPekovic wrote:Bullock is the perfect pick at 26. Perfect role player on the wing. Can shoot the 3 and defend.

Agreed.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1297 » by The J Rocka » Wed May 22, 2013 6:19 pm

NikolaPekovic wrote:I don't think the lolcats or wiz would turn down Dwill.

If the Wizards are really high on Porter, I see them standing pat. Cats might have targeted McLemore had they won the lotto. If the Magic take Burke and McLemore falls, I could see them standing pat, unless we take back Gordon or Thomas.

Walker/McLemore/MKG would be very intriguing but adding a player like Williams + Len/CJM wouldn't be too shabby either. Bottom line, Cats need all the talent they can get. It'll be up to them if they feel they're better moving forward with McLemore or taking a chance on Williams + other piece.

Are we okay with adding extra salary in this draft to get McLemore or Oladipo? BG would be an expiring that brings that vet presence to our team. Thomas would be a no go for me.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1298 » by Biff Cooper » Wed May 22, 2013 6:39 pm

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NikolaPekovic wrote:Are we okay with adding extra salary in this draft to get McLemore or Oladipo?


I'm not if it means Glen & Flip don't re-sign Pek because of it. Assuming AK opts in, there really isn't all that much salary we can add and still re-sign Pek without going into the luxury tax.
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1299 » by NikolaPekovic » Wed May 22, 2013 7:45 pm

Can we afford paying Tyrus thomas if we sign Pek to 12 mil/yr, AK opts in, and we get rid of ridnour?
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Re: 2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59) 

Post#1300 » by C.lupus » Wed May 22, 2013 7:55 pm

Probably not. We need to resign Budinger, too.

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