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Trade Up with Washington 

Post#1 » by Piston Pete » Wed May 22, 2013 12:31 pm

We should look into what it might take to trade up with Washington. Only if McLemore is still on the board.

1) CLE = Porter or Noel
2) ORL = Noel or Burke
3 - Washington



Singler, Maggette (HUGE expiring) and #8 for Okafor and #3?

At #8, Washington would have its pick of bigmen - Bennett, Len, Gobert, etc.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#2 » by rmfc » Wed May 22, 2013 12:35 pm

Pretty sure that Maggette's contract expired at the end of the season.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#3 » by Piston Pete » Wed May 22, 2013 1:19 pm

rmfc wrote:Pretty sure that Maggette's contract expired at the end of the season.


Thought we had them until July 1st....

Either way, you get the idea.

I would just as easily do Singler/#8 for Okafor/#3. Instantly saves Washington a TON of cap space and they look to take a big (Bennett or Len?) at #8:

Wall
Beal
Webster
Bennett
Nene

or

Wall
Beal
Webster
Nene
Len
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#4 » by rmfc » Wed May 22, 2013 1:30 pm

I'd make that trade if McLemore(or Porter?) is still on the board. How long is Okafor's current contract?
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#5 » by Rafael122 » Wed May 22, 2013 1:34 pm

rmfc wrote:I'd make that trade if McLemore(or Porter?) is still on the board. How long is Okafor's current contract?


Wiz fan here, Okafor has an expiring contract so he has more value than Maggette based on that, and also being more productive. Wizards should ask for the moon, and ask for Monroe.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#6 » by rmfc » Wed May 22, 2013 1:40 pm

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rmfc wrote:I'd make that trade if McLemore(or Porter?) is still on the board. How long is Okafor's current contract?


Wiz fan here, Okafor has an expiring contract so he has more value than Maggette based on that, and also being more productive. Wizards should ask for the moon, and ask for Monroe.



So...Okafor + 3 for Monroe + 8? Is that what you think the Wizards should be proposing?

:lol:

You are kidding, right? Right??
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#7 » by Rafael122 » Wed May 22, 2013 1:45 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:
rmfc wrote:I'd make that trade if McLemore(or Porter?) is still on the board. How long is Okafor's current contract?


Wiz fan here, Okafor has an expiring contract so he has more value than Maggette based on that, and also being more productive. Wizards should ask for the moon, and ask for Monroe.



So...Okafor + 3 for Monroe + 8? Is that what you think the Wizards should be proposing?

:lol:

You are kidding, right? Right??


I said the Wizards should ask for the moon, they are well within their right to do that. It won't happen, but they're also not going to accept a package of Corey Maggette and Kyle Singler either. They've got $17 mil coming off the books next season, so the cap space is going to be there whether they make a trade or not.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#8 » by rmfc » Wed May 22, 2013 1:50 pm

Yeah. I didn't realize that Okafor is on an expiring contract. It makes zero sense for Wiz to make that trade unless they get an asset in return.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#9 » by Piston Pete » Wed May 22, 2013 2:12 pm

rmfc wrote:Yeah. I didn't realize that Okafor is on an expiring contract. It makes zero sense for Wiz to make that trade unless they get an asset in return.


Okafor is not expiring like Maggette is. Okafor has another year at $14 million+ on it.

Maggette's deal in as expiring for THIS offseason.
Okafor's deal is an expiring for NEXT offseason.

This deal saves Washington #13+ million of cap this offseason. They could make a run at Iggy or Josh Smith with the money this deal saves them.

Whether this deal works for both parties or not, we should explore trading up to #3 with them.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#10 » by DetroitDon15 » Wed May 22, 2013 2:53 pm

I'd do 8 and Stuckey for Okafor and 3. I don't wantr to give up Singler who in my opinion is a nice back-up 2/3. I'd only really offer up Stuckey (bought out at 4 mill) with that 8 pick. I'm not interested in taking on a max tyoe salary for moving up 5 spots. I also don't think McLemore drops past 2 in my honest opinion.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#11 » by The Penguin » Wed May 22, 2013 3:01 pm

*If McLemore is on the board

I would give up Knight/Singler/#8 for #3 & Ariza
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#12 » by vege » Wed May 22, 2013 3:13 pm

You are very confused Piston Pete.

We do not have Maggette contract in our books so we cannot trade him.

We do not have any cap space because we do have the rights for Maggette and all our FAs and they have cap holds.

We cannot renounce them until free agency is open so we cannot make any of the trades you suggested.

Free Agency opens after the draft (1 week after the draft if I'm not mistaken) So we do not have any expiring (those contracts already expired) and we do not have any cap space (we have cap holds for all the contracts that expired).

If it's confuse and you still can't understand let me know and I'll try to explain better Pete.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#13 » by jaredtyshaf » Wed May 22, 2013 3:27 pm

We could Trade Stuckey (8.5mil Expiring) or CV (8.58mil Expiring) for one of Was bigger contracts.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#14 » by jaredtyshaf » Wed May 22, 2013 3:34 pm

Maybe something like....

Picks #8, #37 and #47 plus CV(8.58mil), Singler(1mil) and Kravtsov(1.5mil)

for

Okafor and Pick #3
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#15 » by chrbal » Wed May 22, 2013 4:02 pm

In a draft where there is no clear cut top pick, hell top 3, hell top 10...you want to trade up?

I'd watch to see how the 1st 4 picks pan out and if someone the Pistons has to have is available at 5, see what Phoenix is willing to do.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#16 » by DetroitSho » Wed May 22, 2013 4:17 pm

Piston Pete wrote:
rmfc wrote:Yeah. I didn't realize that Okafor is on an expiring contract. It makes zero sense for Wiz to make that trade unless they get an asset in return.


Okafor is not expiring like Maggette is. Okafor has another year at $14 million+ on it.

Maggette's deal in as expiring for THIS offseason.
Okafor's deal is an expiring for NEXT offseason.

This deal saves Washington #13+ million of cap this offseason. They could make a run at Iggy or Josh Smith with the money this deal saves them.

Whether this deal works for both parties or not, we should explore trading up to #3 with them.

This is so wrong.

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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#17 » by MrBigShot » Wed May 22, 2013 4:32 pm

At this point I would just stick it out and take whoever is left from Shabazz/MCW/KCP
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#18 » by Clarity » Wed May 22, 2013 4:38 pm

Why?

The value of the wing player at 8 isnt going to be much different than at 3 in this draft.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#19 » by He Filled it Up » Wed May 22, 2013 6:20 pm

I'd move up to 3 if it only meant taking on salary, but since Okafor is expiring it probably doesn't make much sense.
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Re: Trade Up with Washington 

Post#20 » by coolness » Wed May 22, 2013 6:22 pm

A trade idea with a player not under contract (Maggette) turns the whole thread into face-palm. :(

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