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Post#1 » by Sacballer916 » Mon May 20, 2013 1:57 am

Does anyone know if we have any cap space to sign a big name free agent like chris paul? Or are we most likely to make a blockbuster trade this offseason?
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Post#2 » by SacKingZZZ » Mon May 20, 2013 2:55 am

Kings will have cap space, but how much depends on how they decide to proceed. Amnestying Salmons could add a ton of space right off the bat. Don't know the specifics but if they do that while considering the draft picks salary you're probably looking at somewhere around 20 million + in space. Now, here's the catch, in order to have ANY significant space w/o the benefit of trading some of the salary already on the team, which is probably unlikely to find a straight dump scenario, they'll have to renounce Tyreke Evans. Doesn't mean that they can't or won't re-sign him if they do but it means the Kings can't offer him an extra year over other teams anymore.

So, this summer is kind of the summer of, "Are you going to keep Evans, or be a major FA player?" I'd opt for FA considering how this team has looked the last few years. Only about 4 pieces need to be changed out, but they'll need space to accomplish that.
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Post#3 » by blind prophet » Mon May 20, 2013 4:16 am

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm

John Salmons $7,580,000
Marcus Thornton $8,165,000
Chuck Hayes $5,722,500
Jason Thompson $5,643,750
DeMarcus Cousins $4,916,973
Travis Outlaw $3,000,000
Jimmer Fredette $2,574,120
Patrick Patterson $3,105,301
Isaiah Thomas $884,293

Total 41,591,937

The cap wont be set till July, but should be about 60 million.

Leaving us with roughly 18 million to be under cap.
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Post#4 » by blind prophet » Mon May 20, 2013 4:25 am

If we resign Tyreke. Expect it to cost 9-11 mil or so.

The big 3 are going to be, with some trade value.

Marcus Thornton $8,165,000
Chuck Hayes $5,722,500
Jason Thompson $5,643,750
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Post#5 » by Gilles » Tue May 21, 2013 9:18 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:...So, this summer is kind of the summer of, "Are you going to keep Evans, or be a major FA player?" I'd opt for FA considering how this team has looked the last few years. Only about 4 pieces need to be changed out, but they'll need space to accomplish that.
Well, who are you looking to get in FA?
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Post#6 » by UKF » Tue May 21, 2013 4:12 pm

I'm hoping we draft Burke and sign the three that we need. That seems to be more likely and an overall better idea than the opposite of that.
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Post#7 » by ICMTM » Wed May 22, 2013 2:33 pm

Chuck Hayes doesn't have trade value!
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Post#8 » by blind prophet » Wed May 22, 2013 5:25 pm

ICMTM wrote:Chuck Hayes doesn't have trade value!


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Post#9 » by dozencousins » Wed May 22, 2013 9:20 pm

We will have cap space but right now we don't have a lot .

The only way to free up a lot more space is to amnesty Salmons & let Tyreke walk . I don't see Evans not being signed because even if we don't want him we would sign him so we can do a sign & trade .

At best we are about 10th in having the most cap space right now at this point .
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Post#10 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed May 22, 2013 10:35 pm

Gilles wrote:
SacKingZZZ wrote:...So, this summer is kind of the summer of, "Are you going to keep Evans, or be a major FA player?" I'd opt for FA considering how this team has looked the last few years. Only about 4 pieces need to be changed out, but they'll need space to accomplish that.
Well, who are you looking to get in FA?



Hole fillers/need fillers. Time to build a team, not death grip all the solo offensive talent you can unless they are willing to restructure the team around Tyreke Evans and Cousins which might not be achievable at this point. With that said you target attainable players and there just happen to be a few that would be perfect and are on teams that might have a hard time re-signing them. Tony Allen needs to be a target if they don't go with Tyreke. He could be a great fit if they are going to go with a scoring PG. That could also allow Thornton to continue to come off the bench as a spark. Another player I would target but I'm not sure how likely it is right now is David West. Both of those guys would add major toughness to the team. This is obviously with the hopes of maybe filling SF and not drafting players at those positions in the draft but I don't know if filling SF is possible anymore because Porter seems to be rising and the Kings just dropped into 7 which might take them out of the running to fill it unless they like Muhammad.
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Post#11 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed May 22, 2013 10:36 pm

ICMTM wrote:Chuck Hayes doesn't have trade value!



I don't know about this moment but out of the PF's that the Kings have he was the one with potential suitors via free agency, JT didn't have any others that I know of, so in reality JT might be the hardest to move. Still, Hayes showed why he should be on this team last year. If Howard stays in the west Hayes will be a nice specialist to have in your back pocket.
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Post#12 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed May 22, 2013 10:40 pm

dozencousins wrote:We will have cap space but right now we don't have a lot .

The only way to free up a lot more space is to amnesty Salmons & let Tyreke walk . I don't see Evans not being signed because even if we don't want him we would sign him so we can do a sign & trade .

At best we are about 10th in having the most cap space right now at this point .



Here's the thing though, the Kings will still have space so they don't HAVE to let him walk. I think they can renounce him after making him a restricted FA too, which I assume they will, and that will open up the space they need if they are interested in any bigger name FA's. They could also use him in a sign and trade. I think the goal should be finding a home for Jason Thompson and Jimmer Fredette. They are both players that will or should soon enough be back in the rotation and there are teams that would easily use both. Once JT falls in the rotation he's going to be Kenny Thomas 2.0. JT next to a big defensive center will be a perfect fit for some team needing a little more offensive production at PF.
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Re: Cap space 

Post#13 » by Gilles » Sat May 25, 2013 7:21 am

Thompson had one good stretch where he was rebounding very well and making shots, but outside of that he was very unenthusiastic this year. Plus he is believed to be one of two vets that spoke out during Boogie's incident so there might be some animosity with Cousins. So he might be a candidate to go out if there's a team willing to swallow his contract for a minor pick. Would prefer JT to stay if there's no problem between him and Boogie as he's pretty good 3rd big.
Still I don't see many options in pretty weak FA market that will be saturated with a lot of free cap space money. Fredette is an obvious case for being traded. Early second is probably the most you get if no salary is coming back.
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Post#14 » by longfellow44 » Sat May 25, 2013 3:35 pm

Our chances of doing something special with our capspace is slim to none. I would like to resign tyreke and then sign a pg or a sf depending in which we draft.

We draft burke which is my preference tyen we could reasonably sign dorrell wright. If we draft one of the available wings then we should look to sign jose calderon or jarett jack. Either way as long as we fill both holes with solid shooters and passers we should see a decent improvement. We just really need to find an upgrade at both of those spots.
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Post#15 » by SacKingZZZ » Mon May 27, 2013 2:14 am

longfellow44 wrote:Our chances of doing something special with our capspace is slim to none. I would like to resign tyreke and then sign a pg or a sf depending in which we draft.

We draft burke which is my preference tyen we could reasonably sign dorrell wright. If we draft one of the available wings then we should look to sign jose calderon or jarett jack. Either way as long as we fill both holes with solid shooters and passers we should see a decent improvement. We just really need to find an upgrade at both of those spots.



Don't have to do something special with it, just have to bring in more pieces that fit. Guys like Tony Allen, David West, Jeff Teague, Andre Iguodala (maybe), Dorell Wright, etc. all all players that could make this team better from day 1. Could possibly even land a few of them or more depending on the combo. You can use free agency to make sense of your team better than any other situation because of the variety of players available. Then of course there is the option of going for an even bigger name like a Josh Smith, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, etc. Who knows.

Going for something low on the totem poll and calling it a day is a little frightening. Time is running out to really be any sort of player in free agency, so I would suggest going after someone in at least the middle of the pack talent wise. Allen and West would be my targets.

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