Trade Up with Washington

[He Filled it Up]

Just substitute it for the cap space generated by Maggette. Not that big a deal.

A similar trade would be to move up to 4 by taking on a bad CHA contract (lol Gordon?).

[Jodi]

No...We're goodie at 8...

[Natopher]

Just substitute it for the cap space generated by Maggette. Not that big a deal.

A similar trade would be to move up to 4 by taking on a bad CHA contract (lol Gordon?).

Supposedly Charlotte was told that they should trade out of this draft. If Burke was available at #4, and they'd trade a bad contract & the #4 pick to us for something that wasn't Knight/Monroe/Drummond/#8, I'd say you make that trade. This year's FA class isn't super good at the wing spots, so might make sense to pick up some salary and a draft pick. Tyrus Thomas is their worst contract with 2 more years at 8mil per. I might take that on if we traded say a second rounder for Thomas and the #4 (assuming Burke or maybe Porter was available).

Otherwise we should try and trade with Dallas for #13. They're trying to get salary relief for Dwight so they're trying to get rid of their draft pick. We have that to offer, and their only guaranteed contracts (that aren't Dirk) are Marion (1 year, 8 mil), Carter (2 years, 3mil per) and Morrow (1 year, 4 mil). I'd take on any of those guys for their #13 pick.

[pistons]

Nene +3 for Villanueva + 8 is the fairest deal most likely . . I'd do it . .

[Natopher]

Nene +3 for Villanueva + 8 is the fairest deal most likely . . I'd do it . .

I would definitely NOT do that. Nene is an average big man, he's often injured, and owed a lot of money over the next 3 years. Moving up 5 spots in this draft while taking on Nene is definitely not worth it.

The more I think about it, if Shabazz is gone by #8, or if we know that Shabazz is going to last around until later, I'd much rather trade down than up. We could trade #8 to ATL for #17 & #18. Draft Dieng with one of them to be our backup C for the next 4 years at about 1mil per (amazing contract for a backup C, and he plays good D and can rebound well), and then take the best SG left between Shabazz/KCP/Crabbe/Hardaway Jr./whomever I'm leaving out.

This way we don't have to overspend on a backup C in free agency, and we can still get a good SG prospect. In a draft where there are really no players who are clear cuts above the rest, I'd gladly trade down and get a good backup C for cheap and then another good prospect. And there's really not a big reason to think the SG we draft at 17/18 would be that much worse than the one we could get at 8. SG is one of the deeper positions so I'd say trading down would be worth it.

[DetroitDon15]

I was curious what you think about this deal with Washington:

Detroit Gets: 3 overall, C Emeka Okafor, F Trevor Ariza
Washington Gets: 8, Rodney Stuckey, 12 million traded player exception

Detroit gets an upgrade over Singler at just 2 million for Ariza (we are basically paying Stuckey 4.5 mill to go anyways id add two mill more to get Ariza). We get a back-up center/power forward in Okafor. We also get a chance to get McLemore. I could see Porter going one overall because of the fit with the Cavs.

PG Jose Calderon/Brandon Knight
SG Ben McLemore/Kim English
SF Trevor Ariza/Kyle Singer/Khris Middleton
PF Greg Monroe/Jonas Jerebko/Charlie Villanueva
C Andre Drummond/Emeka Okafor/Slava Krastov

[Goldtop]

Honestly, we don't have any assets to move up in this draft, unless we want to give up Monroe or Drummond, which would be insane just to move up in a draft where the talent at 3 is equal to the talent at 8.

[rmfc]

Honestly, we don't have any assets to move up in this draft, unless we want to give up Monroe or Drummond, which would be insane just to move up in a draft where the talent at 3 is equal to the talent at 8.

I'd trade up to #3 if McLemore is still on the board. However, I agree with you about the fact that Pistons don't really have a lot of attractive tradable assets(Monroe and Drummon excluded, obviously).

[Goldtop]

Honestly, we don't have any assets to move up in this draft, unless we want to give up Monroe or Drummond, which would be insane just to move up in a draft where the talent at 3 is equal to the talent at 8.

I'd trade up to #3 if McLemore is still on the board. However, I agree with you about the fact that Pistons don't really have a lot of attractive tradable assets(Monroe and Drummon excluded, obviously).

I would trade up too for Mclemore, but without giving up Monroe or Drummond I don't see how its possible. And I wouldn't trade either for him.

[Piston Pete]

Maybe instead of drafting Burke at #2, they would prefer to have Knight and #8?

Knight and #8 for #2 (McLemore) might be overpaying....

Maybe make it
Knight, Singler, and #8 for #2 (McLemore) and Tobias Harris?

[DetroitDon15]

Maybe instead of drafting Burke at #2, they would prefer to have Knight and #8?

Knight and #8 for #2 (McLemore) might be overpaying....

Maybe make it
Knight, Singler, and #8 for #2 (McLemore) and Tobias Harris?

Is Tobias Harris your new fav player PP? I know you have been around as long as I have but I'm confused on your thinking here. You seem to want him super badly.

[Clarity]

Maybe instead of drafting Burke at #2, they would prefer to have Knight and #8?

Knight and #8 for #2 (McLemore) might be overpaying....

Maybe make it
Knight, Singler, and #8 for #2 (McLemore) and Tobias Harris?

Why on Earth would you trade a 20 year old unproven Knight with a proven motor & ridiculous work ethic for a more unproven 20 year old whos biggest question mark is a lack of motor.

& you want to add another lottery pick with him???

[Natopher]

I agree that you don't trade Knight and #8 for #2 to get McLemore. The only player in this draft I'd be willing to trade Knight for would be Burke. And that's simply because they play the same position and I think Burke will be better. What people need to remember is that Knight was injured almost all of last year, and then for the second half of the season playing out of position at SG. Like Clarity said, he's got a great work ethic, and I think that he can improve quite a bit. Unless you're trading up to get Burke, I really don't think this is the draft you wanna trade up for.

[Piston Pete]

If we're not going to groom Knight at PG, we're better off trading him.

Harris might be a little unproven as well, but has the same potential as Knight IMO. He was a difference-maker for the Magic after they traded for him.

If we could add Harris and McLemore in the draft, we could focus on adding a PG via free agency:

Paul
Ellis
Teague
Jack
Calderon
Bayless
Mo Williams
Jennings



*FA*
McLemore
Harris
Monroe
Drummond

[MrBigShot]

Well...I know this: If Cavs take Noel and Orlando passes on Burke, If I'm Joe D I am lighting up the phone lines to try and trade up to 5 or earlier to try and get Burke.

[Clarity]

I agree that you don't trade Knight and #8 for #2 to get McLemore. The only player in this draft I'd be willing to trade Knight for would be Burke. And that's simply because they play the same position and I think Burke will be better. What people need to remember is that Knight was injured almost all of last year, and then for the second half of the season playing out of position at SG. Like Clarity said, he's got a great work ethic, and I think that he can improve quite a bit. Unless you're trading up to get Burke, I really don't think this is the draft you wanna trade up for.

i'd rather keep Knight & add another draft piece + FA help.

I dont want to start over with another raw PG prospect.