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Post#861 » by GreenRiddler » Fri May 24, 2013 1:22 am

I wonder how long it takes for individual workout schedules to come out, I remember HoopsHype had a good table last year.
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Post#862 » by Case2012 » Fri May 24, 2013 1:55 am

GreenRiddler wrote:That's why I wouldn't be oppose to drafting Zeller this year regardless of LMA. I am one of his huge supporters and don't think their is a reasonable trade out there for him, but I still wouldn't mind drafting Zeller, cause you never know. Paul George is a good example of that.

I know right? Like having 2 lma's would be so terrible. Didn't we pass on Paul because of Telfair? Lol.
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Post#863 » by whatchaknow » Fri May 24, 2013 3:16 am

Case2012 wrote:
GreenRiddler wrote:That's why I wouldn't be oppose to drafting Zeller this year regardless of LMA. I am one of his huge supporters and don't think their is a reasonable trade out there for him, but I still wouldn't mind drafting Zeller, cause you never know. Paul George is a good example of that.

I know right? Like having 2 lma's would be so terrible. Didn't we pass on Paul because of Telfair? Lol.


I don't see how in any way, other than ability to run the floor, zeller is like lamarcus. Aldridge is long, has a back to the basket game and can get his shot off whenever he wants. He's been able to do that since he was at Texas and zeller doesn't even touch Aldridge in any of those categories not to mention he is not even close as a defender either.

If he's the bpa there then by all means take him but I don't see him as a great fit on this team. I have him about my 12th best player in the draft
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Post#864 » by Shem » Fri May 24, 2013 3:45 am

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Post#865 » by GreenRiddler » Fri May 24, 2013 7:04 am

whatchaknow wrote:
Case2012 wrote:
GreenRiddler wrote:That's why I wouldn't be oppose to drafting Zeller this year regardless of LMA. I am one of his huge supporters and don't think their is a reasonable trade out there for him, but I still wouldn't mind drafting Zeller, cause you never know. Paul George is a good example of that.

I know right? Like having 2 lma's would be so terrible. Didn't we pass on Paul because of Telfair? Lol.


I don't see how in any way, other than ability to run the floor, zeller is like lamarcus. Aldridge is long, has a back to the basket game and can get his shot off whenever he wants. He's been able to do that since he was at Texas and zeller doesn't even touch Aldridge in any of those categories not to mention he is not even close as a defender either.

If he's the bpa there then by all means take him but I don't see him as a great fit on this team. I have him about my 12th best player in the draft

I have to agree He is not LMA and I doubt he ever will be, but we shouldn't overlook him just because he is SIMILAR to LMA, if he is the BPA. I happen to be in the small group f people voting for Adams.
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Post#866 » by GreenRiddler » Fri May 24, 2013 7:05 am

If we really want Oladipo and he slips to Charlotte at 4 we should be able to snag him cause the bobcats wanna trade their pick if they can't get Mclemore or Noel. We will see though.

Think about it though

1.)Cle--Noel
2.) Orl-Mclemore
3.) Was--Porter
4.) ??? (Vic)

He is too similar too MKG. They already have Kemba so why go for Burke? Len could go here possibly or Bennett, but I think I read in the 2011 draft Cho was avoiding Tweeners like the Morris brothers. I think they would be compelled to trade down or out if those three are gone.
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Post#867 » by Wizenheimer » Fri May 24, 2013 4:10 pm

GreenRiddler wrote:If we really want Oladipo and he slips to Charlotte at 4 we should be able to snag him cause the bobcats wanna trade their pick if they can't get Mclemore or Noel. We will see though.

Think about it though

1.)Cle--Noel
2.) Orl-Mclemore
3.) Was--Porter
4.) ??? (Vic)

He is too similar too MKG. They already have Kemba so why go for Burke? Len could go here possibly or Bennett, but I think I read in the 2011 draft Cho was avoiding Tweeners like the Morris brothers. I think they would be compelled to trade down or out if those three are gone.


really?? Portland "should be able to snag him"...?

that seems like a lot of confidence invested in the assets Portland has to offer. I'd suggest it's over-confidence.

Charlotte is potentially sitting on more cap-space then Portland this summer so it's not like the Blazers can offer them cap-relief. Wesley Matthews?...how much value will Charlotte place on him when they can extend Gerald Henderson? He's not the 3 point shooter Matthews is, but he's a better ball-handler and a good defender. They might be able to sign him for less salary then Matthews

I also wonder how cooperative Rich Cho would be with his former employer. The guy who fired him.

What if Charlotte demanded Matthews + #10 + #39 + rights to Papanikolauo + reduction of protection on the pick Portland owes them for Ben Gordon + #4?....is that worth it for Portland?

what if it was #10 + #39 + rights to Papanikolauo + reduction of protection on the pick Portland owes them for Tyrus Thomas + #4?

If I was Cho, that's what I'd ask for considering as how I had sold Michael Jordan on the value of a plan of tanking for draft picks and I ended up with a 4th pick as part of the payoff of that plan. Asking for anything less would seem an admission that the plan was flawed. He probably doesn't want to get fired again and he may already be on thin ice after using the 2nd pick last year on Kidd-Gilchrist
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Post#868 » by zronv7 » Fri May 24, 2013 4:13 pm

Pope is the dark horse in this draft and probably will be the BPA at the 10th pick and 3rd best SG behind McLemore and Oladipo. Caldwell Pope looks like a very solid SG with plenty of potential. Staring at 6'6 pope has excellent size for his position, he may be the best shooter in this draft as well and also is very talented athletically. Caldwell Pope would be great next to Lilliard I say drafting him at #10 is a no brainer for me unless someone slides.
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Post#869 » by JD45 » Fri May 24, 2013 4:37 pm

zronv7 wrote:Pope is the dark horse in this draft and probably will be the BPA at the 10th pick and 3rd best SG behind McLemore and Oladipo. Caldwell Pope looks like a very solid SG with plenty of potential. Staring at 6'6 pope has excellent size for his position, he may be the best shooter in this draft as well and also is very talented athletically. Caldwell Pope would be great next to Lilliard I say drafting him at #10 is a no brainer for me unless someone slides.


I think Caldwel-Pope is a great fit as well. Chad Ford loves him. DraftExpress doesn't. I like that he ranked high on advanced stats, was the main scorer on his team, and has good size and athleticism. He is also considered a good defender. He is a good college 3 pt shooter, and shot a lot more of them than Oladipo or McLemore, so there is a good chance that translates to the pros. He seems like less bust potential than a lot of the lottery picks.

My top 3 for the Blazers are Zeller, KCP and Gorbert.
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Post#870 » by Downtown » Fri May 24, 2013 4:39 pm

I would like to see Portland bring in Reggie Bullock to workout with Caldwell-Pope. I read a comparison of Bullock to Danny Green of the Spurs in that he is a great shooter, and even though he's not a great ball handler he does alot of little things well and was the guy the Tar Heels put on the other teams best player on defence. If Portland could snag him in the second round I would be happy to go with him, Barton, and Claver backing up both Mathews and Batum.

Use the #10 in a different fashion unless they can trade Mathews in an upgrade package. Other than that I don't see Olshey looking at shooting guard as a priority at draft time.
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Post#871 » by Clarity » Fri May 24, 2013 4:45 pm

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Easily the safest player in this draft, the least questions about him.

Probably not a franchise star but definitely an impact player, Tayshaun Prince.

If I was Cleveland I would take Otto at 1, instant impact & fits perfectly with their current core.
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Post#872 » by Wizenheimer » Fri May 24, 2013 6:08 pm

yeah, I'm not a draft talent guru, but looking at scouting reports and such, it sure looks like Porter is the most NBA-ready player, just like Lillard last season. Might have the biggest impact for a team

maybe Trey Burke is in Porter's class as far as being NBA-ready
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Post#873 » by Shem » Fri May 24, 2013 6:58 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:yeah, I'm not a draft talent guru, but looking at scouting reports and such, it sure looks like Porter is the most NBA-ready player, just like Lillard last season. Might have the biggest impact for a team

maybe Trey Burke is in Porter's class as far as being NBA-ready

I actually think Burke is the most likely player of the draft class to win the Rookie of the Year.
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Post#874 » by Sabzi » Fri May 24, 2013 7:39 pm

Porter will struggle tremendously with NBA athleticism. He's a year or two away from fully contributing.
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Post#875 » by lukeyrid13 » Fri May 24, 2013 7:47 pm

Maybe it's just me but I would rate Harrison Barnes above Otto Porter as far as draft prospects the last two years. I think Porter will be good but not great. Do you take a guy who you know will be solid but not great at 3 or do you take a chance on someone like Bennett becoming a game-breaker?
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Post#876 » by GreenRiddler » Fri May 24, 2013 7:48 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
GreenRiddler wrote:If we really want Oladipo and he slips to Charlotte at 4 we should be able to snag him cause the bobcats wanna trade their pick if they can't get Mclemore or Noel. We will see though.

Think about it though

1.)Cle--Noel
2.) Orl-Mclemore
3.) Was--Porter
4.) ??? (Vic)

He is too similar too MKG. They already have Kemba so why go for Burke? Len could go here possibly or Bennett, but I think I read in the 2011 draft Cho was avoiding Tweeners like the Morris brothers. I think they would be compelled to trade down or out if those three are gone.


really?? Portland "should be able to snag him"...?

that seems like a lot of confidence invested in the assets Portland has to offer. I'd suggest it's over-confidence.

Charlotte is potentially sitting on more cap-space then Portland this summer so it's not like the Blazers can offer them cap-relief. Wesley Matthews?...how much value will Charlotte place on him when they can extend Gerald Henderson? He's not the 3 point shooter Matthews is, but he's a better ball-handler and a good defender. They might be able to sign him for less salary then Matthews

I also wonder how cooperative Rich Cho would be with his former employer. The guy who fired him.

What if Charlotte demanded Matthews + #10 + #39 + rights to Papanikolauo + reduction of protection on the pick Portland owes them for Ben Gordon + #4?....is that worth it for Portland?

what if it was #10 + #39 + rights to Papanikolauo + reduction of protection on the pick Portland owes them for Tyrus Thomas + #4?

If I was Cho, that's what I'd ask for considering as how I had sold Michael Jordan on the value of a plan of tanking for draft picks and I ended up with a 4th pick as part of the payoff of that plan. Asking for anything less would seem an admission that the plan was flawed. He probably doesn't want to get fired again and he may already be on thin ice after using the 2nd pick last year on Kidd-Gilchrist

I doubt he would let personal feelings get in the way of helping his team. Also He wouldn't have that kind of trade leverage sine like I said before, he would want to trade the pick, if the top three goes like how I wrote. since Oladipo does not fit in well with MKG. He can get a good starting quality SG to help them and a prospective big later in the draft, again that's only if he doesn't like Bennett/Len/Cj and Oladipo at 4.
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Post#877 » by GreenRiddler » Fri May 24, 2013 7:51 pm

Porter is a pick perfect for a team like Was or Cle that need a glue guy, but for other teams like Charlotte or Oralando they would be looking at other options since your not sure he will be more than a role playing starter. Kinda like a jack of all trades but a master of none situation, solid but not great.
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Post#878 » by Sabzi » Fri May 24, 2013 8:19 pm

GreenRiddler wrote:Porter is a pick perfect for a team like Was or Cle that need a glue guy, but for other teams like Charlotte or Oralando they would be looking at other options since your not sure he will be more than a role playing starter. Kinda like a jack of all trades but a master of none situation, solid but not great.



I would agree with that assessment.
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Post#879 » by PTPaQ » Fri May 24, 2013 8:57 pm

I think its going to be very interesting to watch Cleveland, as its apparent they are looking to win sooner rather than later and I'm not so sure Noel is the best option for that route. Workouts are coming up, what if Otto Porter blows them away? Theres also the talk of them looking to trade the pick so who knows how the board could fall at the end of the day, my guess is, just like last year, you have your probable top 5 prospects, but they will just go in a different order than whats projected. What if McClemore's private workouts somewhat support whats been shown in the tourney, and he has a hard time performing when under a certain pressure. I imagine those workouts at teams facilities can be very stressful, how will he handle that spotlightI?
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Post#880 » by jhern87 » Fri May 24, 2013 10:56 pm

I think Burke is the best player in this draft. I was very impressed by his leadership in the tourny and I think Orlando is happy they got the 2nd pick so they don't have to take him over Noel (tho I believe they still would). Burke can just ball, and I really like Orlando's young core once they get him. I'll be rooting for them.

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