Raptors Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread

sweetcity · Post #1201 » by **sweetcity** » Sat May 25, 2013 2:01 pm

for 2nd rounders I'd rather swing for the fences with

Lorenzo Brown (Ramon Sessions) or Archie Goodwin (Beldsoe??)

What about Bargnani + Fields for Jefferson + Bierdins + 2014 1st Rounder

Amnesty Kleiza sign Brand + Jordan Farmar

Lowry - Farmar
DD - Ross
Gay - Jefferson
Amir - Brand
JV - Bierdrins

2014 draft we have two 1st's and Bierdrins + Jefferson -= 19m in expirings

SaveTheHens · Post #1202 » by **SaveTheHens** » Sat May 25, 2013 3:29 pm

Andrea Bargnani & Terrence Ross for Nene.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #1203 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Sat May 25, 2013 4:23 pm

SaveTheHens wrote:Andrea Bargnani & Terrence Ross for Nene.

Nene's too old and injury prone to make it worthwhile including Ross in a deal for him imo. I'd rather try and trade Ross for a 1st rounder or other young player.

Roland Brice · Post #1204 » by **Roland Brice** » Sat May 25, 2013 6:22 pm

HolyMage110 wrote:how about getting a late second round pick to get seth curry?

Love this idea.

Dr Positivity · Post #1205 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sat May 25, 2013 7:11 pm

Detriot seems like an excellent landing spot for Gay if he's moved. Something like Charlie's expiring, Jerebko, Singler, English, future 2nd for Gay and JLIII could work. Yes that's an unsexy trade but it does a lot for our cap and Singler and Jerebko could be nice pieces

Post #1206 » by **Hassassin** » Sat May 25, 2013 7:15 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote:
SaveTheHens wrote:Andrea Bargnani & Terrence Ross for Nene.

Nene's too old and injury prone to make it worthwhile including Ross in a deal for him imo. I'd rather try and trade Ross for a 1st rounder or other young player.

Washington might end up being a possible destination for Bargs. Both Wall and Beal said the team needs a stretch-4.

Rapsfan07 · Post #1207 » by **Rapsfan07** » Sat May 25, 2013 7:30 pm

Hassassin wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote:
SaveTheHens wrote:Andrea Bargnani & Terrence Ross for Nene.

Nene's too old and injury prone to make it worthwhile including Ross in a deal for him imo. I'd rather try and trade Ross for a 1st rounder or other young player.

Washington might end up being a possible destination for Bargs. Both Wall and Beal said the team needs a stretch-4.

I've been saying that. It's evident in the team's make-up that not only do they need a stretch 4, but they need more shooting in general.

Something around Okafor though. Wiz probably won't wanna give up a pick and there's nothing on their present roster that would make that deal worthwhile for me. If Bargs is to be dealt, I really like the Sacramento deal and would explore that before anything else.

Marvin Martian · Post #1208 » by **Marvin Martian** » Sat May 25, 2013 7:43 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:Detriot seems like an excellent landing spot for Gay if he's moved. Something like Charlie's expiring, Jerebko, Singler, English, future 2nd for Gay and JLIII could work. Yes that's an unsexy trade but it does a lot for our cap and Singler and Jerebko could be nice pieces

If DET wanted Gay they could have done the deal themselves without including the middle man (TOR).

Post #1209 » by **Hassassin** » Sat May 25, 2013 8:34 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Hassassin wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote:Nene's too old and injury prone to make it worthwhile including Ross in a deal for him imo. I'd rather try and trade Ross for a 1st rounder or other young player.

Washington might end up being a possible destination for Bargs. Both Wall and Beal said the team needs a stretch-4.

I've been saying that. It's evident in the team's make-up that not only do they need a stretch 4, but they need more shooting in general.

Something around Okafor though. Wiz probably won't wanna give up a pick and there's nothing on their present roster that would make that deal worthwhile for me. If Bargs is to be dealt, I really like the Sacramento deal and would explore that before anything else.

I'd do Okafor + Vesely for Bargnani and Fields.

Rapsfan07 · Post #1210 » by **Rapsfan07** » Sat May 25, 2013 8:47 pm

LOL I'm sure we all would. However, Wizards wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole.

sweetcity · Post #1211 » by **sweetcity** » Sat May 25, 2013 10:50 pm

If Kleiza is an amnesty then we have a couple guys we can move for bench depth that we actually need.

Trade

Landry Fields to for Drew Gooden - solves the depth at PF issue - Gooden has had solid numbers up until this year

Aaron Gray + John Lucas for Luke Ridnour or JJ Barea

Sign Tim Mozgov to 2 yrs $3m per

Lowry - Ridnour - Telfair
DD - Ross - Anderson
Gay - Anderson - Ross
Amir - Gooden - Acy
JV - Bargnani - Mozgov

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #1212 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Sun May 26, 2013 12:56 am

What about just

Andrea Bargnani For Nene. Straight up. This saves Washington 16,750,000 over the course of 3 years. He's 3 years younger than Nene and might fit with that core better. Nene would be a win now move for us.

I wouldn't add Ross, I would add Acy though if that sweetened it.

Wall
Beal
Porter
Bargnani
Okafor/Seraphin

Roland Brice · Post #1213 » by **Roland Brice** » Sun May 26, 2013 1:17 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:What about just

Andrea Bargnani For Nene. Straight up. This saves Washington 16,750,000 over the course of 3 years. He's 3 years younger than Nene and might fit with that core better. Nene would be a win now move for us.

I wouldn't add Ross, I would add Acy though if that sweetened it.

Wall
Beal
Porter
Bargnani
Okafor/Seraphin

He's obviously an upgrade in talent, but my thing is how much further do we get with him? Because if that were to go through we're in for the long haul.

sweetcity · Post #1214 » by **sweetcity** » Sun May 26, 2013 1:22 am

Id rather have Boozer then Nene, we'd be at least competitve in the 2nd round for a few years unless JV becomes a monster

lakerhater · Post #1215 » by **lakerhater** » Sun May 26, 2013 5:32 am

sweetcity wrote:What about Bargnani + Fields for Jefferson + Biedrins + 2014 1st Rounder

sweetcity, any chance you'd be willing to bring this proposal to the trade board?

Holla · Post #1216 » by **Holla** » Sun May 26, 2013 10:59 am

Iggy wants to opt out, so we should go hard at him and he would be a great pair with Rudy
and instead of letting him go for nothing they can get younger

Denver in: Ross, Fields, Gray
Toronto in: S&T 4yr 44m Iggy, Quincy Miller

Amensity Bargs
Sign Ed Davis to the MLE
Sign JO to 2yr 4m

PG- Lowry/Telfair?
SG- Iggy/Demar/Anderson
SF- Gay/Kleiza/Miller
PF- Amir/Eddy/Acy
C- JV/JO

Tell me that cannot be a STRONG defensive team with Gay in the lineup

RaptorReloaded · Post #1217 » by **RaptorReloaded** » Sun May 26, 2013 12:37 pm

Holla wrote:Iggy wants to opt out, so we should go hard at him and he would be a great pair with Rudy
and instead of letting him go for nothing they can get younger

Denver in: Ross, Fields, Gray
Toronto in: S&T 4yr 44m Iggy, Quincy Miller

Amensity Bargs
Sign Ed Davis to the MLE
Sign JO to 2yr 4m

PG- Lowry/Telfair?
SG- Iggy/Demar/Anderson
SF- Gay/Kleiza/Miller
PF- Amir/Eddy/Acy
C- JV/JO

Tell me that cannot be a STRONG defensive team with Gay in the lineup

I like it. You can even go small and put Gay at the 4, Iggy at the 3 and DD at the 2.

carl_english · Post #1218 » by **carl_english** » Sun May 26, 2013 6:00 pm

RaptorReloaded wrote:
Holla wrote:Iggy wants to opt out, so we should go hard at him and he would be a great pair with Rudy
and instead of letting him go for nothing they can get younger

Denver in: Ross, Fields, Gray
Toronto in: S&T 4yr 44m Iggy, Quincy Miller

Amensity Bargs
Sign Ed Davis to the MLE
Sign JO to 2yr 4m

PG- Lowry/Telfair?
SG- Iggy/Demar/Anderson
SF- Gay/Kleiza/Miller
PF- Amir/Eddy/Acy
C- JV/JO

Tell me that cannot be a STRONG defensive team with Gay in the lineup

I like it. You can even go small and put Gay at the 4, Iggy at the 3 and DD at the 2.

Doesn't really solve the interior defense issue.

Roland Brice · Post #1219 » by **Roland Brice** » Sun May 26, 2013 6:11 pm

carl_english wrote:
RaptorReloaded wrote:
Holla wrote:Iggy wants to opt out, so we should go hard at him and he would be a great pair with Rudy
and instead of letting him go for nothing they can get younger

Denver in: Ross, Fields, Gray
Toronto in: S&T 4yr 44m Iggy, Quincy Miller

Amensity Bargs
Sign Ed Davis to the MLE
Sign JO to 2yr 4m

PG- Lowry/Telfair?
SG- Iggy/Demar/Anderson
SF- Gay/Kleiza/Miller
PF- Amir/Eddy/Acy
C- JV/JO

Tell me that cannot be a STRONG defensive team with Gay in the lineup

I like it. You can even go small and put Gay at the 4, Iggy at the 3 and DD at the 2.

Doesn't really solve the interior defense issue.

Interior defense is a product of your perimeter defense and Iggy is arguably the best perimeter defender in the league outside of maybe Tony Allen and LeBron James when he's locked in. I'm just not sure it solves our shooting issues. Iggy is a 30% shooter from the outside going based on last years numbers. Teams can still zone up on that squad and stifle them offensively unless Kyle and Rudy just rip it from 3, but we all know both of their strengths are being close to the hoop as well.

Rapsfan07 · Post #1220 » by **Rapsfan07** » Sun May 26, 2013 8:18 pm

Roland Brice wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:What about just

Andrea Bargnani For Nene. Straight up. This saves Washington 16,750,000 over the course of 3 years. He's 3 years younger than Nene and might fit with that core better. Nene would be a win now move for us.

I wouldn't add Ross, I would add Acy though if that sweetened it.

Wall
Beal
Porter
Bargnani
Okafor/Seraphin

He's obviously an upgrade in talent, but my thing is how much further do we get with him? Because if that were to go through we're in for the long haul.

No thanks. Unless we're going all in and even then, Bargnani would be better used to bolster the bench than to bring on an expensive injury prone C... We could easily use our MLE to bring in a C if we need it.

So unless Wizards are sending picks, I'm not interested.